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Then kids drink it, and then just wanna get drunk, go drive home to go get hungover. Bang, car crash.
Excuse me? Driving home with a hangover leads to a car crash now?

 

 

 

Are you experience in the matter (with hungovers)? People don't drive home "for" a hungover and hungovers certainly doesn't lead car accidents. Being intoxicated while driving does.

 

 

 

Learn to read.

 

 

 

He said "go drive home to go get hungover. Implying they are driving home while intoxicated.

Or he could have worded his sentence correctly. I don't come here to decipher people's sentences.

 

 

 

In the UK the drinking age is 18. It disappoints me at university that everything is centred around drinking. Almost all events start or end in a pub/club. I understand that in America it is widespread that university students drink, however at least it means that official events aren't centred around it.

 

 

 

Depends on the people/events actually. I know that some people look for events/parties that end up with beer.

 

 

 

As such:

 

 

 

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People that don't get drunk are quite boring.

 

Completely wrong. Some people are just more fun drunk.

 

 

When you're drunk, people are more fun also ::' .

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People that don't get drunk are quite boring.

 

Completely wrong. Some people are just more fun drunk.

 

 

When you're drunk, people are more fun also ::' .

 

 

 

You're also much more easily amused :D.

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I'm just disappointed I can't drink wine till I'm 21, because I don't have the balls to drink it without my parents' permission. I don't care about the other alcoholic beverages, I just want to try wine :(

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I'm just disappointed I can't drink wine till I'm 21, because I don't have the balls to drink it without my parents' permission. I don't care about the other alcoholic beverages, I just want to try wine :(

 

Its legal under parent supervision, your mummy won't let ya have a taste?

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I'm just disappointed I can't drink wine till I'm 21, because I don't have the balls to drink it without my parents' permission. I don't care about the other alcoholic beverages, I just want to try wine :(

 

It's not like it's gonna kill you...unless you drink the entire bottle, then *maybe*. Drink moderately and nobody will have any problems.

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Then kids drink it, and then just wanna get drunk, go drive home to go get hungover. Bang, car crash.

 

What the hell is this sentance supposed to mean?

 

I don't know, I think he was drunk when he wrote it.

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Alcohol is fantastic and everyone should be allowed it.

 

 

 

YES. I am opposed to any law that restricts a human being to have full control of what that person is doing to his or her own body.

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I'm just disappointed I can't drink wine till I'm 21, because I don't have the balls to drink it without my parents' permission. I don't care about the other alcoholic beverages, I just want to try wine :(

 

It's not like it's gonna kill you...unless you drink the entire bottle, then *maybe*. Drink moderately and nobody will have any problems.

 

 

 

An entire bottle of wine will not kill you. Not even close.

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I'm just disappointed I can't drink wine till I'm 21, because I don't have the balls to drink it without my parents' permission. I don't care about the other alcoholic beverages, I just want to try wine :(

 

It's not like it's gonna kill you...unless you drink the entire bottle, then *maybe*. Drink moderately and nobody will have any problems.

 

 

 

An entire bottle of wine will not kill you. Not even close.

 

I heard on ManSwers that its (around) 20 bottles of wine in 1 hour that would likly kill you, although nobody would do that. About drinking wine - I am 14 and i have some of my parents wine once in a while, it wont do anything to you...(unless you drink 20 bottles ;) )

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Alcohol is fantastic and everyone should be allowed it.

 

 

 

YES. I am opposed to any law that restricts a human being to have full control of what that person is doing to his or her own body.

 

 

 

So you support marijuana legalization?

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I haven't read through all the pages, but it's something like your brain doesnt fully develop until age 21. What ever scientists say, the Gov. believes. And even if it is illegal for underage people to drink, it's hard to stop them from doing it.

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Alcohol is fantastic and everyone should be allowed it.

 

 

 

YES. I am opposed to any law that restricts a human being to have full control of what that person is doing to his or her own body.

 

 

 

The laws are not restricting you from things that you do to your own body. It is restricting what you do to other's bodies.

 

 

 

I've never heard any major case of people getting arrested for sitting in their own home drinking until they pass out. It's kind of pathetic when they do, and they need help, but it's not illegal.

 

 

I haven't read through all the pages, but it's something like your brain doesnt fully develop until age 21. What ever scientists say, the Gov. believes. And even if it is illegal for underage people to drink, it's hard to stop them from doing it.

 

 

 

In behavioral psychology you learn that most humans do not fully develop their reasoning and logical skills until their twenties. The brain is fully developed at anywhere from 17-28, with the average being at 22 and heavily weighted in that upward range. Under twenty for this is very rare. Despite how "grown up" or well read someone is, they still may lack these skills.

 

 

 

Or he could have worded his sentence correctly. I don't come here to decipher people's sentences.

 

 

 

Latinoking, he worded his sentence correctly. The only improvement I see to it would have been to say "...drive home only to get a hangover." However, it made perfect sense to me on the first read through.

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I'm just disappointed I can't drink wine till I'm 21, because I don't have the balls to drink it without my parents' permission. I don't care about the other alcoholic beverages, I just want to try wine :(

 

It's not like it's gonna kill you...unless you drink the entire bottle, then *maybe*. Drink moderately and nobody will have any problems.

 

A bottle of wine does nothing, just leaves you with a black tongue for the rest of the evening ;)

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You are defeating your own argument by talking about in moderation, what difference does it make to you if there is that wait before you can do something you only believe in doing in moderation?

 

 

 

So he brings up drinking responsibly and you use that against him? Something's wrong with this picture.

 

 

 

Would it honestly be better for his argument to say he wanted to drink everyday? -.-

 

I am saying if he only wants to do it in moderation he can wait.

 

 

 

I know this is from quite awhile ago but I am 20, I don't need to wait.

 

 

 

A few facts about me, I havn't even eaten anything with alcohol in since the 1st of november 2007 and I have NEVER been drunk or even close to it. I also don't take drugs or smoke.

 

 

 

I havn't read all posts so sorry if I go over things.

 

 

 

The uk goverment (I live in the uk) is pathetic. They wont let us have kids till were 16 (so going by what the goverment says thats kids raising kids who cant even get a job!)

 

 

 

We can drive at 17 (we could kill somebody)

 

 

 

At 18 we can get a tattoo (how is getting a tattoo worse than driving a 2 tonne bullet?) we can drink so basically poison ourselves (I will explain in a second) and watch porn/gory movies (these are worse than raising a family as a kid and driving a a killing machine)

 

 

 

Alcohol effects the front of the brain 1st, thats what I assume (I've never been drunk) is the good feeling, next the next section in is slightly poisoned following that is near the base of the brain gets poisoned. Nice to know really.

 

 

 

Having said that alcohol does NOT kill brain cells, it was made up so people would stop drinking it.

 

 

 

Some scientists belive moderate drinking helps cognitive function.

 

 

 

If you feed a small amount of alcohol to mice there brains grows slightly!

 

 

 

A hangover is the brain shrinking due to dehydration causing the brain to pull on the membrane that covers the brain, this is what hurts. The brain itself cannot feel pain. Watch all the hannibal films, if you don't belive me! :D

 

 

 

Theres some facts for you all to chew on :lol:

 

The kids we govern (I'm a UK senator) are pathetic. They want to have kids before 16 (so going by what the kids say they want to be raising kids when they can't even get a job!)

 

 

 

In all seriousness, your post just sounds like something a 14 year old kid would say to support being able to what they want at the age they want. The reason why there are many things you can't do until 18 is because that is the age of consent. The government say at that age you are completely responsible for your actions and that your parents are no longer raising you.

 

 

 

The reason why they allow you to drive from a younger age than drink is so that you hopefully get some driving experience before you start drinking, it would be much better then driving and drinking in the same year. I would move if drinking and driving were legal at the same age.

 

 

 

You are defeating your own argument by talking about in moderation, what difference does it make to you if there is that wait before you can do something you only believe in doing in moderation?

 

 

 

The laws in the uk are pathetic, the kids who have kids are just brainless.

 

 

 

Personaly I think all alcohol and cigarettes shouldn't be sold any were but you know how the goverment loves that tax!

 

 

 

If every body was good little boys and girls and we all followed the law to the word then the goverment would allow people to have kids as kids with no way of supporting themselvs (they can also move out when there 16) so there you already have a nice little family of kids not working =D> well done.

 

 

 

If people would become more mature, relise theres life outside a bottle and become more responsable then we could have a driving age and a drinking age at the same level but that will never happen cos it seems people lives revolve around this annoying liquid.

 

 

 

So if the goverment think at 18 you are totaly responsable for yourself and you don't need your perants any more why can you not get a job at 16 which is what the goverment say is an ok age for you to move out? Are you meant to live by yourself with your own kids and wife, renting a nice little flat but still asking your mum and dad for money to support you?

 

 

 

How do you answer the fact that at 16 we can have sex all day and all night but we can only watch other people have sex at 18? Surly that should be the other way round.

 

 

 

It causes so many problems mostly financial. How much does it cost you to get drunk? how much does it cost the NHS when fall over, get in a fight, get hit by a car or become an alcoholic? How much does it cost to put you in rehab? How much does it cost to bury you cos you got hit by a car? What about the psych problems of maybe being raped while your drunk? Theres all these things to consider but what the hell right its fun. (I know there unlikly to happen but they could).

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Perfetc, your arguments are all heavily based on stereotype and seem to assume that every time anybody so much as smells a beer they become a violent alcoholic. I never do these sort of posts but your last post made me die a bit inside. (Just so you know, I didn't die a bit inside near my liver, that'll be fine until I next have a drink, at which point it'll disintegrate and break into a million pieces that spell out "drinking is bad, mmkay.")

 

 

 

Personaly I think all alcohol and cigarettes shouldn't be sold any were but you know how the goverment loves that tax!

 

Or perhaps the ministers enjoy a glass of wine with their dinner. Perhaps they realise that maybe a few million others enjoy this. Perhaps they know that a glass of red wine a day is supposed to be good for you. Maybe they're even aware that people would still be able to get hold of alcohol and that it'd be incredibly difficult, expensive and impractical to punish people for drinking inside their own home. Also - you mention tax. You don't drink, so if Parliament banned alcohol and cigarettes, they'd charge more tax in the form of council tax or whatever. This would be punishing everybody really, and unfair on people who choose not to drink.

 

 

 

If every body was good little boys and girls and we all followed the law to the word then the goverment would allow people to have kids as kids with no way of supporting themselvs (they can also move out when there 16) so there you already have a nice little family of kids not working =D> well done.

 

That didn't make sense. If everyone was good then the Government would allow them to have kids? People aren't good, and the Government allow them to. I don't understand the point you're trying to make.

 

 

 

If people would become more mature, relise theres life outside a bottle and become more responsable then we could have a driving age and a drinking age at the same level but that will never happen cos it seems people lives revolve around this annoying liquid.

 

"Realise there's life outside a bottle" - [bleep]ing hell! People don't automatically become dependant on alcohol the minute they drink it! Enjoying a drink every now and then doesn't mean our lives revolve around it!

 

 

 

So if the goverment think at 18 you are totaly responsable for yourself and you don't need your perants any more why can you not get a job at 16 which is what the goverment say is an ok age for you to move out? Are you meant to live by yourself with your own kids and wife, renting a nice little flat but still asking your mum and dad for money to support you?

 

What?! I've got a bunch of friends aged sixteen with jobs! Sixteen-year-olds CAN and DO get jobs. Do some research before you make a point.

 

 

 

How do you answer the fact that at 16 we can have sex all day and all night but we can only watch other people have sex at 18? Surly that should be the other way round.

 

What's that got to do with alcohol? Anyway, if it was the other way round, you'd be allowed to watch others have sex at a younger age than you can actually have sex. So people would want to and know how to have sex before they're allowed to. Which results in more people having underage sex, therefore more underage parents. (I know people do watch others having sex at a younger age than sixteen, but I'm talking about if everyone stuck to the law) I do see what you're saying to an extent but it's a flawed argument.

 

 

 

It causes so many problems mostly financial. How much does it cost you to get drunk? how much does it cost the NHS when fall over, get in a fight, get hit by a car or become an alcoholic? How much does it cost to put you in rehab? How much does it cost to bury you cos you got hit by a car? What about the psych problems of maybe being raped while your drunk? Theres all these things to consider but what the hell right its fun. (I know there unlikly to happen but they could).

 

A bottle of Smirnoff costs £12. I can get drunk on half of this, so that's £6. If you get drunk on cheap vodka that's probably, what, £3? That's less than an hour's work. So no, it doesn't cost much to get drunk.

 

And as for the NHS argument: your views on people who drink are very heavily stereotyped. Not many people get into fights. Very few people get hit by cars. Just having a few drinks and enjoying yourself won't lead to you becoming an alcoholic. You're not really that much more likely to get raped while drunk seeing as most rapists are probably stronger than the average rape victim, plus it's as easy to slip a date-rape pill into a glass of water as a glass of alcohol.

 

But you have got one thing right. What the hell, it is fun.

 

 

 

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If people would become more mature, relise theres life outside a bottle and become more responsable then we could have a driving age and a drinking age at the same level but that will never happen cos it seems people lives revolve around this annoying liquid.

 

If people were more mature then we wouldn't need age restrictions on things, as the people wouldn't abuse it and would use judgement before doing something that could ruin their life of the life of others.

 

 

 

So if the goverment think at 18 you are totaly responsable for yourself and you don't need your perants any more why can you not get a job at 16 which is what the goverment say is an ok age for you to move out? Are you meant to live by yourself with your own kids and wife, renting a nice little flat but still asking your mum and dad for money to support you?

 

Getting a job at 16 allows you to prepare for having to support yourself, as you will need to divide your money to what you need and then what you want. It also means you can save up for a car and start saving for a house that you will end up buying one day.

 

 

 

How do you answer the fact that at 16 we can have sex all day and all night but we can only watch other people have sex at 18? Surly that should be the other way round.

 

I have asked myself this before, many a time. My best guess would be that with the broad types of porn, including the more violent/erotic kinds that it is best if they didn't start viewing it at 16.

 

 

 

I think we should be getting back onto alcohol, unless you want to convince the OP to make it more of a why can't we _____ when we are ___ years old? kind of thread.

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OOO I do love to have an argument and be controversial. Even if I am not very good at it.

 

 

 

I don't really know were to start since I got quoted so much. :lol:

 

 

 

You can only be paid min. wage at 18 can't you, thats what I've heard alot anyway. If this is wrong sorry.

 

 

 

But people's lives do revolve around alcohol, what do 99% (maybe an exaggeration) of teenagers do at most weekends? What do most (if not all) people do when ever there is a game of football on? What do alot of people drink with dinner or tea most of the time? What do alot of people do to relax most of the time? What do alot of people cook there food with most of the time? The answer is alcohol.

 

 

 

My family is the only family I know that if they drink 10 times a year thats alot. Seriously.

 

 

 

Something I genuinely want to know, why are all pubs made out of wood? from floors, stools, benches tables to the walls is made out of wood, why? :?

 

 

 

If some body says to you "I am going out this weekend" what do you automaticaly think? There going out to drink.

 

 

 

I don't think people crave it, or spend there lives in the endless pursuit of it, or do it constantly.

 

 

 

Simply they do it more than I think is necessary and there is no need to do it till your drunk.

 

 

 

Its just my thoughts and there is a reason that I am really biased, I can tell you if you like :)

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It's pointless arguing with you, perfectc, if you're just going to throw out false statistics and bias. Nothing of yours has any factual basis to it. Besides, there is a difference between a persons life revolving around alcohol and alcohol simply being a part of a persons life. Point being is I wear clothes, well, quite often really. It doesn't mean that my life revolves around clothing. I don't live for clothing, even though most of my activities are going to be done with it on.

 

 

 

Likewise with alcohol, so what if people enjoy a glass at supper, or at the game? So what if we want to cook a nice roast with a little bit of wine in it (which just gets diluted, btw). I don't see how that means a persons life revolves around it or anything. Sure, my dad and mom probably will have a beer at supper most of the time. Still I've never actually seen them drunk (even at family outings) or drink more than a few beers. Their lives don't revolve around alcohol.

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know why you're so biased other than maybe your parents got you to believe this way. (Considering your family very rarely drinks.) Still it's stupid to argue with you if you are going to have such a strong bias against alcohol.

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It's pointless arguing with you, perfectc, if you're just going to throw out false statistics and bias. Nothing of yours has any factual basis to it. Besides, there is a difference between a persons life revolving around alcohol and alcohol simply being a part of a persons life. Point being is I wear clothes, well, quite often really. It doesn't mean that my life revolves around clothing. I don't live for clothing, even though most of my activities are going to be done with it on.

 

 

 

Likewise with alcohol, so what if people enjoy a glass at supper, or at the game? So what if we want to cook a nice roast with a little bit of wine in it (which just gets diluted, btw). I don't see how that means a persons life revolves around it or anything. Sure, my dad and mom probably will have a beer at supper most of the time. Still I've never actually seen them drunk (even at family outings) or drink more than a few beers. Their lives don't revolve around alcohol.

 

 

 

 

 

I don't know why you're so biased other than maybe your parents got you to believe this way. (Considering your family very rarely drinks.) Still it's stupid to argue with you if you are going to have such a strong bias against alcohol.

 

 

 

I am not going to look up stats about how many teens drink, how many people drink at certian times etc its called estimating. If you want to know actual numbers wither look them up yourself or ask as many people as you can and I'd happily bet £10 that most of them will have drunk more then 3 pints in a week.

 

 

 

It may not revolve around it but it is a big part of it.

 

 

 

I think there is a time and place for alcohol such as weddings, funeral's, parties etc but drinking for the sake of drinking I think is unnecessary.

 

 

 

I don't get the whole concept of drinking anyway, why do you get drunk? If you drink and not get drunk why choose alcohol? It tastes like crap!

 

 

 

Even if you do like the taste there is no need to drink 10 pints in 1 night! I like the taste of tea, that doesn't mean I am going to drink 10 pints of it!

 

 

 

Since you guessed at my bias towards alcohol I will tell why, my dad was a violent alcoholic who beat my mum when I was very young. I know every body isn't going to be like that when there drunk but there you go.

 

 

 

There is no good reason to drink.

 

 

 

Some body said before it was £12 for a 1 ltr bottle of smirnoff? Thats about 20 times as much as a 2 ltr bottle of coke! What a waste of money!

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You can only be paid min. wage at 18 can't you, thats what I've heard alot anyway. If this is wrong sorry.

 

Nope, there is a minimum wage in the Uk for each working age group. Under 18's, 18-21 then 22+ all have different minimum wages. However it doesn't mean anyone aged 18 can only be paid the minimum, this just means that whoever you work for can't pay you less than that. I'm 18 and working and getting well above the minimum wage for my age group.

 

 

 

And i spent a fair amount of that cash on alcohol and nights out.

 

I don't get the whole concept of drinking anyway, why do you get drunk?

 

Drinking is a social activity and helps people relax, there's nothing better than sitting in a bar with a few friends and catching up over a few drinks. Not everyone goes out specifically just to get wasted. It is possible to enjoy alcohol without ending up drunk. And just because you think alcoholic drinks taste like crap doesn't mean everyone does. There are plenty drinks which taste like normal soft drinks but have an alcoholic content.

 

 

 

If you have personal reasons for not drinking, then fair enough but in a debate like this, actual statistics and figures, along with the link to where you got them gives your argument a lot more weight.

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I think there is a time and place for alcohol such as weddings, funeral's, parties etc but drinking for the sake of drinking I think is unnecessary.

 

 

 

I don't get the whole concept of drinking anyway, why do you get drunk? If you drink and not get drunk why choose alcohol? It tastes like crap!

 

People drink for many reasons, to find an escape from abuse, to escape from stress caused by a rocky marriage or work, because their friends do, are at a social event, to get drunk, they enjoy the taste and other reasons.

 

 

 

Even if you do like the taste there is no need to drink 10 pints in 1 night! I like the taste of tea, that doesn't mean I am going to drink 10 pints of it!

 

Just because you don't see inything in excessive drinking, other people clearly do. A few of the reasons I gave above explain why.

 

 

 

Since you guessed at my bias towards alcohol I will tell why, my dad was a violent alcoholic who beat my mum when I was very young. I know every body isn't going to be like that when there drunk but there you go.

 

There is no point in trying to argue against alcohol, saying that it is completely useless and has no place using bias. We can see that your father was a [bleep] and drank too much, that doesn't make alcohol an awful substance. Yeah, I think excessive drinking is going to negatively affect people, it doesn't mean I go around tell people it is awful and that they have no to drink alcohol.

 

 

 

Some body said before it was £12 for a 1 ltr bottle of smirnoff? Thats about 20 times as much as a 2 ltr bottle of coke! What a waste of money!

 

Smirnoff != coke

 

Also of course they will sell it for a lot more, the cost of making it might be sure, it is an alcohol, so there may be a tax on it, as an alcopop it is seen as the thing to drink at a party, so you will buy a lot when you have a party, so the companies make huge profits on sales.

 

 

 

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You can only be paid min. wage at 18 can't you, thats what I've heard alot anyway. If this is wrong sorry.

 

Nope, there is a minimum wage in the Uk for each working age group. Under 18's, 18-21 then 22+ all have different minimum wages. However it doesn't mean anyone aged 18 can only be paid the minimum, this just means that whoever you work for can't pay you less than that. I'm 18 and working and getting well above the minimum wage for my age group.

 

 

 

And i spent a fair amount of that cash on alcohol and nights out.

 

I don't get the whole concept of drinking anyway, why do you get drunk?

 

Drinking is a social activity and helps people relax, there's nothing better than sitting in a bar with a few friends and catching up over a few drinks. Not everyone goes out specifically just to get wasted. It is possible to enjoy alcohol without ending up drunk. And just because you think alcoholic drinks taste like crap doesn't mean everyone does. There are plenty drinks which taste like normal soft drinks but have an alcoholic content.

 

 

 

If you have personal reasons for not drinking, then fair enough but in a debate like this, actual statistics and figures, along with the link to where you got them gives your argument a lot more weight.

 

 

 

So why would you pay extra to have a drink that tastes like a soft drink but with alcoholic content rather than a plain soft drink?

 

 

 

I think there isn't a better thing than sitting around with friends and have a drink but why alcohol? It either tastes like crap or tastes like a normal drink, there is an exception though, guinness from ireland.

 

 

 

In order to enjoy alcohol you need to get drunk to an extent were it effects the front part of your brain, which gives you that happy feeling when you drink. A WKD or 2 its a waste of time since you wont feel the effect and you will have just wasted however much they cost.

 

 

 

Just a question why would I have to post a link etc to carry more wieght ever body already knows it and they don't post a link to there facts :S

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I think there is a time and place for alcohol such as weddings, funeral's, parties etc but drinking for the sake of drinking I think is unnecessary.

 

 

 

I don't get the whole concept of drinking anyway, why do you get drunk? If you drink and not get drunk why choose alcohol? It tastes like crap!

 

 

 

People drink for many reasons, to find an escape from abuse, to escape from stress caused by a rocky marriage or work, because their friends do, are at a social event, to get drunk, they enjoy the taste and other reasons.

 

 

 

Even if you do like the taste there is no need to drink 10 pints in 1 night! I like the taste of tea, that doesn't mean I am going to drink 10 pints of it!

 

 

 

Just because you don't see anything in excessive drinking, other people clearly do. A few of the reasons I gave above explain why.

 

 

 

Since you guessed at my bias towards alcohol I will tell why, my dad was a violent alcoholic who beat my mum when I was very young. I know every body isn't going to be like that when there drunk but there you go.

 

 

 

There is no point in trying to argue against alcohol, saying that it is completely useless and has no place using bias. We can see that your father was a [bleep] and drank too much, that doesn't make alcohol an awful substance. Yeah, I think excessive drinking is going to negatively affect people, it doesn't mean I go around tell people it is awful and that they have no to drink alcohol.

 

 

 

Some body said before it was £12 for a 1 ltr bottle of smirnoff? Thats about 20 times as much as a 2 ltr bottle of coke! What a waste of money!

 

 

 

Smirnoff != coke

 

Also of course they will sell it for a lot more, the cost of making it might be sure, it is an alcohol, so there may be a tax on it, as an alcopop it is seen as the thing to drink at a party, so you will buy a lot when you have a party, so the companies make huge profits on sales.

 

 

 

This was typed at 4AM, but I had to type it while it was still on my mind.

 

 

 

I could give you rather long list of problems I have in my life (just as a sample: I live in a homless

 

shelter cos my mum picked her bf over me) but it would take to much time and either just bore you or not belive me but trust me my life isn't great (part of the reason I play runescape actually) but I am strong enough to cope with all my problems without resorting to drink.

 

 

 

Another example think of the people who live in 3rd world countries do you think they can end a work day and spend a few hours drinking? your problems are nothing compared to theres.

 

 

 

I know there isn't a point to it but its a debate isn't it?

 

 

 

Alcohol has ruined alot of lives. You can't say it hasn't, just look at george best (I think thats the right person) his life was messed by alcohol, wasn't it? I know it was a footballer.

 

 

 

"it doesn't mean I go around tell people it is awful and that they have no to drink alcohol." I don't know what you were trying to say there.

 

 

 

Companies do that cos every body (you know it is every body) buys alcohol at parties so they could mark it up another 10% and people would still buy it.

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IM GOING TO LIVE FOREVER .......... or die trying

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