The F2P General Discussion Thread

[Isthatok]

I'd just like to bring up a point: Yeah, it's possible to hit 200 in F2P with magic but it's exactly 200; no more. By doing the simple math, anything higher is illogical. There is a hoax video on Youtube that suggests a magic max hit of 205, and people are actually gullible enough to believe it. :(

 

Aside from that, I'm sure many of you have noticed that the number of players playing Runescape is now EXTREMELY low. World 1 rarely ever reaches 1900 players on weekdays and the average number of players on each world is less than 400. Here's my suggestion thread: 185-186-348-61970673 . Please support it.

[wormy]

I would be surprised(happens at lot now-a-days) if melee armor absorbed magical based damage. Which could be a new method of balancing the triangle.

-oops- the different styles have their own absorb % scratch that first comment.

 

If the population gets low do you think some servers will start to go away?

[Frede173]

I would be surprised(happens at lot now-a-days) if melee armor absorbed magical based damage. Which could be a new method of balancing the triangle.

-oops- the different styles have their own absorb % scratch that first comment.

 

If the population gets low do you think some servers will start to go away?

And I wouldn't be surprised if magic armour had some sort of magical aura that absorbs melee damage.

[zhong881209]

I'd just like to bring up a point: Yeah, it's possible to hit 200 in F2P with magic but it's exactly 200; no more. By doing the simple math, anything higher is illogical.

i am surprise this is coming from someone who high lvl in dungeoneering, didnt you ever try magical blastbox before? critical-hit that appear in separate hitsplat which deal another 25% damage.

 

If the population gets low do you think some servers will start to go away?

haha, you edit your post before i post my, so oh well.

i doubt that, well, at least not until it drop until critical point, where the world is barely got ppl in it(about <100). by reducing the number of server will introduce more lag.

 

the number of ppl playing is reduced, maybe is because of the new accounts update, which make account slightly difficult to create for bot.

dont forget about, there are many ppl having dc or lag issues. some may due to ban or boot suspicious bot. or there are some ppl who dislike some updates and quit or take a break from RS.

 

And I wouldn't be surprised if magic armour had some sort of magical aura that absorbs melee damage.

good 1, magic armor/cloth defence is very weak, before that it is just mainly use to increase magic accuracy only and safe spot.

[Isthatok]

Zhong I forgot to mention that the 200 was in any one single hitsplat, which excludes the critical hit ability of the blastbox. Forgive me for being unclear.

[zhong881209]

Zhong I forgot to mention that the 200 was in any one single hitsplat, which excludes the critical hit ability of the blastbox. Forgive me for being unclear.

nvm, but i actually feel like you are talking about only single hitsplat, but still try my luck and post.

 

i cant find back the magic damage formula in wikia, the formula is 160*124% or 160*105%*109%*110% ?

both also cant get exactly 200.

edit:i think it is the former, which make max hit 198? i not sure since some say former, some say later.

[Isthatok]

Zhong I forgot to mention that the 200 was in any one single hitsplat, which excludes the critical hit ability of the blastbox. Forgive me for being unclear.

nvm, but i actually feel like you are talking about only single hitsplat, but still try my luck and post.

 

i cant find back the magic damage formula in wikia, the formula is 160*124% or 160*105%*109%*110% ?

both also cant get exactly 200.

edit:i think it is the former, which make max hit 198? i not sure since some say former, some say later.

 

It's 160(1.15)(1.09) = 200.56

 

1.15 from weapon bonuses, and then multiplied over visible stat bonuses of 1.09.

 

I suppose 201 might be possible but 205 is definitely out of the question.

[ranqe]

does anyone know if zelots ammy makes melees max higher than useing a str ammy?

[zhong881209]

does anyone know if zelots ammy makes melees max higher than useing a str ammy?

if not wrong, zealot ammy only benefit ranger. since str ammy plus pray is slight stronger then zealot plus improved pray. and mage pray dont even increase damage

[Youmu]

Zealot ammy is only good if you can pray flash, and as Zhong said, it only benefits rangers. Meleers must use TWO prayers to get the full benefits while rangers only have to use one.

 

That being said, the difference between zealot training and regular training (no pray) is minimal, so it's not really worth the token cost.

[ranqe]

:( i was going to use it in pvp with grav 2h but i dont really want to use 2 prays, the drain on that is a little to fast

 

and i wont be ranging

[Greedy]

I posted already my finds about magic max hits in this topic months ago. Probably it is faded away in the minds. :-|

This is the way how i calculated:

Max magic hit with blast necklace + grav staff: 160 + 10% + 5% = 160 * (1 + 0.10 + 0.05) = 184

Max magic hit with blast necklace + grav staff + mindbomb = 160 + 10% + 5% + 9% = 160 * (1 + 0.10 + 0.05 + 0.09) = 198.4

Max magic hit with blast necklace + grav staff + blastbox: (160 + 10% + 5%) + 25% = (160 * (1 + 0.10 + 0.05)) * 1.25 = 230

Max magic hit with blast necklace + grav staff + blastbox + mindbomb: 160 + 10% + 5% + 9% + 25% = (160 * (1 + 0.10 + 0.05 + 0.09)) * 1.25 = (160 * 1.24) * 1.25 = 248

 

Some pictures i posted here earlier

Look at the extra hits from the blastbox:

When your main hit is 167, the extra hit is ALWAYS approx 25% of the main hit! Result: 167 + 25% = 167 + 41.75

When your main hit is 181, the extra hit is: 181 + 25% = 181 + 45.25

 

For dummies: when you hit 100, the extra hit will be 25.

 

[ilovecuttingyews]

So according to that, no F2P mage spells will ever be reduced because the single hit max is below 200. That means that melee is the only type that will be reduced. So does that mean that mage robes will be the only noteworthy defence update for F2P? I've read that Jagex will use this to enforce the combat triangle. Is that confirmed or just hearsay?

[SirIzenhime]

That make sense, because magic is probably the weakest to use in single pvp right now, so it needs the help most from damage reduction.

[Isthatok]

Hey Greedy, I haven't actually tested it yet but here's the video that led me to believe it was 200.

 

 

Also, does anyone happen to know the maximum possible xp for a combatant in F2P dungeoneering?

 

Here's my most so far:

[sees_all1]

Here's my most so far:

 

mvp means most xp. Thats how you did so well. :wink:

[Frede173]

Here's my most so far:

 

mvp means most xp. Thats how you did so well. :wink:

When did they change that?

[SirIzenhime]

The titles at the end mean NOTHING about your Dungeoneering xp. They're just there for fun.

[sees_all1]

The titles at the end mean NOTHING about your Dungeoneering xp. They're just there for fun.

MVP means most xp :wink:

[SirIzenhime]

The titles at the end mean NOTHING about your Dungeoneering xp. They're just there for fun.

MVP means most xp :wink:

 

The titles at the end mean NOTHING about your Dungeoneering xp. They're just there for fun.

 

NOTHING about your Dungeoneering xp.

 

Dungeoneering xp.

 

;)

[sees_all1]

The titles at the end mean NOTHING about your Dungeoneering xp. They're just there for fun.

Th tils at he ed ean OHING aout yur Dungeoneing p. Ty're jst th for fun.

ils a ed ean ING ao yur Duneing p. y're jst th r fun.

ilsa e ING ar Dig rejst t fun.

islaING ijst fun.

sailING is fun.

sailing.

 

OMFGWTFBBQ you know something we don't?

[Pinkbullet3]

Also, does anyone happen to know the maximum possible xp for a combatant in F2P dungeoneering?

Just a quick Google search, lol: http://peacefull.rsbandb.com/viewtopic.php?f=21&t=18119

[BiJay]

The titles at the end mean NOTHING about your Dungeoneering xp. They're just there for fun.

MVP means most xp :wink:

MVP means most valued player. Titles don't interact with your experience.

[Youmu]

Yeah titles are purely there for fun. Try for more challenging ones like I Can Has Heim Crab or WoopWoopWoop!

 

Speaking of which, what are the requirements for that title? I recall it's keying as fast as you can opening every door in the dungeon.

 

And 65k in a f2p f35 large... wow that's DAMN amazing :shock:

[sees_all1]

Yeah, but you'll notice that those were the players with 100+ dungeoneering... if anyone would have opened up every room in a large, it'd be the ones that have done it 100s of times.