Chaotic Rapier vs Longsword

[bedman]

Allright guys, me and lugia tested Rapier vs. CLS.

 

We were wearing

Neit

Bandos chest

Bandos tassets

Fury

Dragon boots

Fire cape

Barrow gloves

Warrior ring / Diamond ring (i)

CLS / Rapier

 

We were using turmoil the entire fight, with no food and no pots.

 

The outcome was 20 - 18, with CLS being the winner.

 

It was a pretty weird test though. Rapier started out winning by 5 -0, lowering to 12 - 6, and then losing 8 times in a row (12 - 14). Show luck plays a HUGE factor here. All in all it seems there is only very little difference. With overloads, rapier would probably get a slight advantage, but even then I'd say things are pretty balanced out, for pvp DPS that is.

 

I also tallied my zero or non zero hits for 3 kills. 3 kills doenst say anything but I'l post anyway:

0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 (dead, really bad fight)

0 1 1 0 1 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 0 0 0 0 1 (think I won this one)

0 0 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 0 1 1 (think I lost this one)

 

This clearly show, even with the small sample size (and I might not have tallied the rest, but I can tell you that it's quite a bit of zeroes), that hits were still very inaccurate, I think you can be much more accurate on bandos, so I would conclude from this test that Rapier is probably better at Bandos.

[Lep]

Seems they're pretty balanced overall and same goes for Maul.

[wioneo]

So there is little difference efficiency-wise...that just leaves looks, and swords look cooler than giant toothpicks.

[Obtaurian]

I'd like to see a test with potions and food.

[tortilliachp]

So there is little difference efficiency-wise...that just leaves looks, and swords look cooler than giant toothpicks.

 

depending on the situation. that is the crucial thing. Increase attack from the slayer helmet, extreme potions, overlords, increased defence of a boss instead of a player, predictable high damage in a specific hit (that's a spec weapon) etc.

 

 

they're certainly not the same, there is definitely more than looks to go by.

[TheAncient]

Any speculations on if DgBatch2 will have even better goodies to spend tokens on? I'm near 200K now and am still in a rut as to if I should wait, get CR, or get CLS.

[Golvellius]

Any speculations on if DgBatch2 will have even better goodies to spend tokens on? I'm near 200K now and am still in a rut as to if I should wait, get CR, or get CLS.

 

Prayer for 5% more range damage.

Possiblely dungeoneering equivalent armours for melee, range, and magic similar in stats to the pvp stuff.

Question is would you use full set of head body legs shield and weapon at 1mil/hr cost?

[xSxqPowerx]

Plus the fact that they are not sure if batch 2 will even be this year.

[Obtaurian]

IMO, it's worth getting a scroll of life, arcane stream, and one chaotic weapon. Anymore than that and you'd be wasting your time on slow experience. Unless you just love the skill, of course.

[Mecakoto]

IMO, it's worth getting a scroll of life, arcane stream, and one chaotic weapon. Anymore than that and you'd be wasting your time on slow experience. Unless you just love the skill, of course.

 

5k extra exp/hr in a skill that nearly every single player can never hope to max isn't worth the loss of tokens.

[bedman]

So there is little difference efficiency-wise...that just leaves looks, and swords look cooler than giant toothpicks.

 

depending on the situation. that is the crucial thing. Increase attack from the slayer helmet, extreme potions, overlords, increased defence of a boss instead of a player, predictable high damage in a specific hit (that's a spec weapon) etc.

 

 

they're certainly not the same, there is definitely more than looks to go by.

I'd say a boss has lower defence than a player. You hit LOTS of zeroes against a player. I don't do Bandos, but I can't see it being this bad there too.

[Obtaurian]

IMO, it's worth getting a scroll of life, arcane stream, and one chaotic weapon. Anymore than that and you'd be wasting your time on slow experience. Unless you just love the skill, of course.

 

5k extra exp/hr in a skill that nearly every single player can never hope to max isn't worth the loss of tokens.

 

Wait, what?

[Mecakoto]

IMO, it's worth getting a scroll of life, arcane stream, and one chaotic weapon. Anymore than that and you'd be wasting your time on slow experience. Unless you just love the skill, of course.

 

5k extra exp/hr in a skill that nearly every single player can never hope to max isn't worth the loss of tokens.

 

Wait, what?

I assume you meant for people to spend their tokens on exp to make it faster. I can be mistaken. If I am, disreguard the following:

 

As it stands now, there is nothing new in Dungeoneering past level 69. And since most people aiming for 120 are just kidding themselves, and with additions confirmed to come out at a later date, those additions involvng tokens, it stands to reason that exp/hr hardly matters in the majority of cases. What matters is tokens/hr, those tokens being saved or used on the Chaotic items/repairs/replacement items. It would be better to save the tokens then to use them, in other words. If nothing worth-while comes out, you can always spend them on Exp then.

 

G'Night.

[bedman]

You were mistaken. He meant that you shouldn't train dungeoneering once you have rapier, scrolls of life and arcane stream, because there are only 35 floors and xp/h is less than it will be when batch 2 comes out.

[SirIzenhime]

idk....the tome of frost looks pretty nice too :unsure:

[xpx]

idk....the tome of frost looks pretty nice too :unsure:

Where would you be using it? Sure things might look nice on the paper but unless you are going to burst/barrage rock lobsters, it's useless. Same thing with bonecrusher.

[SirIzenhime]

safe pvp using ancients. :thumbup:

 

It's called having fun in a game.

 

I'm pretty sure you could find a use for it other then using combat spells as well.

[Obtaurian]

safe pvp using ancients. :thumbup:

 

It's called having fun in a game.

 

I'm pretty sure you could find a use for it other then using combat spells as well.

 

It'd be useful for casting b2p at MTA.

[howbadisbad]

Ok so everyone on runescape with a cls says its better than rapier at gwd/tds/ the whole deal.

 

I hear most people on tip.it say rapier always.

 

I know those on runescape like to bandwagon, need to know for sure if rapier is better at gwd/tds/other.

[Obtaurian]

Ok so everyone on runescape with a cls says its better than rapier at gwd/tds/ the whole deal.

 

I hear most people on tip.it say rapier always.

 

I know those on runescape like to bandwagon, need to know for sure if rapier is better at gwd/tds/other.

 

CLS is better at Bandos and Sara. Maul is probably better at TDs. Rapier is best almost everywhere else, and is good at everything that it's not best at.

[howbadisbad]

Ok so everyone on runescape with a cls says its better than rapier at gwd/tds/ the whole deal.

 

I hear most people on tip.it say rapier always.

 

I know those on runescape like to bandwagon, need to know for sure if rapier is better at gwd/tds/other.

 

CLS is better at Bandos and Sara. Maul is probably better at TDs. Rapier is best almost everywhere else, and is good at everything that it's not best at.

 

Losing games said rapier was best at tds O_o. Should that mean its best at bandos/sara too? (I have not done tds so I don't know their def vs gwd bosses def.)

[Quyneax]

Tormented demons have very low defence (considering they're boss monsters). From my tiny experience with them, they're compareable to iron dragons. Don't have anything to base that on, though, and I don't know about GWD bosses.

 

For td's, do you want to reliably hit 310 and make very fast switches or hit as high as possible per switch to avoid switching any more? And which would be better?

[ghjkl]

For tds, unless you suck at switching, the best dps weapon is the best. Imo darts>cbow when i use titan.

[cya_tremend]

The rapier is superior over the maul and longsword in almost every aspect besides looks.

 

Dps is everything when slaying and bossing, so you can easily overpower anything you fight. The maul is good for td's but unless you suck at switching prayers then you shouldn't need it.

 

The real question is which rewards shield is best?

[Squisher_33]

The rapier is superior over the maul and longsword in almost every aspect besides looks.

 

Dps is everything when slaying and bossing, so you can easily overpower anything you fight. The maul is good for td's but unless you suck at switching prayers then you shouldn't need it.

 

The real question is which rewards shield is best?

 

well by your argument, rune defender...and thats also my opinion