Runescape Pro vs Old timer

[vox1st]

I am sure many of the loyal tip it users are just as loyal to runescape and have seen its early days. I myself have played runescape since the creation of the RS2 beta, which is a pretty long time. One of the recent tip it times talks about this a bit and how people focus too much on being the best rather than being a friendly community.

 

 

back then I could chat with people while skilling and make friends that way. Now people seem to turn chat off or just ignore me in some cases. Its very odd. For a year or so I was away from runescape and when I came back I learned about the Grand Exchange and the new wilderness and the trade limit. It was a sad day for me, I looked up videos of all the riots of people running into the wild, at varrock at falador. Those people were passionate, and that people quit. With the GE players no longer had to buy everyday items from other players. They could simply get instant results. Now cooking is a joke, where raw lobsters were 200 coins each, and cooked lobsters were 250 coins each(f2p) I took pride in my relativly high cooking level. Now with the ability to buy tens of thousands of raw fish instantly from various players, a person could simply buy, bank, head to burthrope and sit in a dungeon cooking until level 99. This type of thing resulted in players no longer spreading time around on various activities, but rather grinding a skill to its pinnacle of usefulness. Don't get me wrong, the GE has saved my life many times and provided a better game in many ways, but it has created zombies out of people and made certain skills flip on end over night.

[Saunamajuri]

Back then, I had many friends, but now... almost whole list is red...

 

Everyone is gone...

So lonely... So ronery...

:sad:

[Calm Koala]

Back then, I had many friends, but now... almost whole list is red...

 

Everyone is gone...

So lonely... So ronery...

:sad:

 

Welcome to the club

[halo475]

It's funny how everyone seems so lonely, i struggle to find people that aren't pretending to be internet cool, I'm sure there are many that have that same problem.

 

Anyways i long for free trade and hit points back, i can not STAND doing high hits, although i fully understand why both these updates exist, it's still sad though.

[Perakp]

Your view of runescape is kinda limited to the worse parts. Dungeoneering alone made runescape a much better game than it used to be. Comparing cooking 5 years ago to cooking today isn't worth much discussion.

 

Yes, GE largely removed a part of the interaction between players, but much has been added to compensate, in the form of minigames and community events. The grinding in the mmorpg-genre is a big problem, most of the time the game doesn't feel like a multiplayer game, but instead a singleplayer game with a hiscore. Looking forward to the studio that makes a game where you don't need to play alone to be good enough to play with other people, eg training skills to be able to join a clan. :thumbdown:

[tripsis]

I think trading pre-GE is romanticized. Yes, there was player interaction, but only about 2 seconds of it. Most of your time was spent spamming the same message over and over again in world 2 or bumping your thread over and over again on the RSOF. Then you have about 30 seconds of looking "face-to-face" with your buyer/seller while you trade, along with exchanging two or three sentences of words (if that.. sometimes it was no words). People still sat in banks grinding while other users came to them to trade. So I honestly don't think the GE has taken such a large toll on the community aspect of the game as you're implying.

[vettro]

I am a little sentimental when it comes to the times before the GE. I remember when my brother (now retired) bought a whip, it was a lot bigger deal. He looked for people in Falador, the haggling, the arguing, etc. Although I love the GE for it's efficiency and speed, I miss the days of merching, now it's all just price manipulation. The time consuming part of pre-GE trading is what increased the satisfaction from making a sale, or a big buy. The fun was the process as much as it was the actual item.

 

I also noticed the part about people training ignoring you. It's true. They are almost always AFKing, watching a movie, playing xBox, surfing facebook, etc. The only people who want to talk are obnoxious trolls looking to start a fight and provoke people. I remember when I added friends while training, now the only thing getting added to is my ignore list.

 

I don't think that jagex or runescape should go back to those days necessarily, the GE saves me countless hours of buying random items for quests and training. I wish everyone had experienced the old pre-GE trading system, it has a lot of memories for me. Mostly good ones.

[yuriqiu]

I think trading pre-GE is romanticized. Yes, there was player interaction, but only about 2 seconds of it. Most of your time was spent spamming the same message over and over again in world 2 or bumping your thread over and over again on the RSOF. Then you have about 30 seconds of looking "face-to-face" with your buyer/seller while you trade, along with exchanging two or three sentences of words (if that.. sometimes it was no words). People still sat in banks grinding while other users came to them to trade. So I honestly don't think the GE has taken such a large toll on the community aspect of the game as you're implying.

I agree, I used to spend hours camping w2 Fally park spamming out messages to merch different objects. It's actually not that fun. I made a bunch of money like that but you never really have a real conversation with people. I do miss old school woodcutting though before the swarm of wcing bots just ran over rs. Lletya mage trees used to be my favorite spot where people seemed to just hang out and can have some nice conversations. Now Lletya is mostly deserted and I also abandoned my old ways of doing things to give into efficiency :/

[@Dan3HitU]

Back then, I had many friends, but now... almost whole list is red...

 

Everyone is gone...

 

Me too :(

[Goldenjkered]

I find with slayer that people are obsessed with efficiency (Piety on every task, overloads etc). I'd rather just go with normal gear when slaying, far easier, and less to worry about. I'm just old school haha.

[Zaaps1]

I've always played the way I felt most comfortable with. In the past, I never really bother with the whole efficiency thing. But once I learned about it, it made so much sense that I can't NOT play by it. To me, it just seems illogical to not play efficiently. If I'm not playing efficiently, I'm not comfortable playing.

[rangeor]

I think Clan Chat is a bigger factor here. I used to be the guy that would always start up conversations with people while training. There was also a little community I was a part of in seers village, that trained woodcutting on the magic trees. Everyone knew each other and we all talked because woodcutting was boring. After getting a full load I'd run back to the bank and spam "flash1: Sell mage logs!!!!!" until an a fletcher wishing I'd save up more than just 28 before selling would finally trade me. Then after getting a good amount of money I'd hop over to world two, head up the ladder in seers bank and look at all the cool bank sales to see if there was anything I wanted that I could afford.

 

Nowadays I'm the kind of guy that trains with public chat off and private chat on friends because I already have my community, and it goes everywhere I go. The people in my clan chat are a lot more mature than anyone you'll find in a large community's chat like Tip.It, and chances are more mature than the random people I encounter while training. It's nice because I still get player interaction without having to filter through the obnoxious people to find the decent people worth talking to.

 

I miss how it used to be a lot, but it's mostly because of nostalgia. I think I actually prefer how it is now.

[Sylpheed]

I've always played the way I felt most comfortable with. In the past, I never really bother with the whole efficiency thing. But once I learned about it, it made so much sense that I can't NOT play by it. To me, it just seems illogical to not play efficiently. If I'm not playing efficiently, I'm not comfortable playing.

 

This pretty much sums up exactly how I play. When I first started training Slayer (5ish years ago now) I would do it on and off and spread my interests out over other skills and activities. However, like anything you do in Runescape or even real life, the more you do something the more efficient you get at it. Im coming close to maxing out Slayer now and I get through every task as fast and as efficiently as I possibly can because it doesn't make sense to me to take the slower option of doing a task when I know there is a faster method.

[DUELMASTER30]

I think Clan Chat is a bigger factor here. I used to be the guy that would always start up conversations with people while training. There was also a little community I was a part of in seers village, that trained woodcutting on the magic trees. Everyone knew each other and we all talked because woodcutting was boring. After getting a full load I'd run back to the bank and spam "flash1: Sell mage logs!!!!!" until an a fletcher wishing I'd save up more than just 28 before selling would finally trade me. Then after getting a good amount of money I'd hop over to world two, head up the ladder in seers bank and look at all the cool bank sales to see if there was anything I wanted that I could afford.

 

Nowadays I'm the kind of guy that trains with public chat off and private chat on friends because I already have my community, and it goes everywhere I go. The people in my clan chat are a lot more mature than anyone you'll find in a large community's chat like Tip.It, and chances are more mature than the random people I encounter while training. It's nice because I still get player interaction without having to filter through the obnoxious people to find the decent people worth talking to.

 

I miss how it used to be a lot, but it's mostly because of nostalgia. I think I actually prefer how it is now.

This is exactly what I do. At the GE I turn off my public chat, but I'm always in the same cc. I only turn public back on when I'm doing a slayer task because those usually end up making some nice conversations. For example, one time at Dark Beasts there was this random guy who I hadn't spoken to yet, he had been there almost as long as I had on that task. I ended up getting a dragon med helm, so I said something about it. It turned out that he had gotten a d spear two kills before me. This ended up being a two hour conversation and it made that task go by a lot faster. People always seem nicer and more "mature" when you're talking in a one on one conversation, so I usually don't talk until those kind of situations.

[Rock Hard]

i have about five names on my friends list, and two of them are my own alts

 

:s

 

i think its because ive grown up, and now all the 'cool people' i would meet and chat with now just seem to be kids, or losers who take rs too seriously

 

nobody im really arsed about getting to know now hm :/

[Dark_Yeng]

Back then, I had many friends, but now... almost whole list is red...

 

Everyone is gone...

So lonely... So ronery...

:sad:

 

Same. :( and 16/200 ppl in list.

[Andy]

Clan chats ruined edgeville world 99. I miss cooking and talking with friends there. :(

[xpandax]

i have about five names on my friends list, and two of them are my own alts

 

:s

 

i think its because ive grown up, and now all the 'cool people' i would meet and chat with now just seem to be kids, or losers who take rs too seriously

 

nobody im really arsed about getting to know now hm :/

 

I think for those of us who have played long enough to really have "grown up" with the game this is very true. I've played since the absolute beginning of Runescape so we're talking a good 9 years of my life... A lot happens to you in 9 years, when you go from 12-21 and continue to play the same game, the way you are going to play that game will change. I find absolutely no interest in getting to know anyone in the public chat area of runescape. I dont' talk to anyone in public unless they're asking me questions or unless they start the conversation and I don't want to be impolite. However, as soon as you get the inevitable "add to friends?" I always log out and switch worlds. I just don't have almost anything in common with the age group of 13-17 that makes up the vast majority of players.

 

I also think that clan chats have changed Runescape quite a bit. No one feels the need to socialize through forums as much anymore or through public or pm because your "friends" in runescape are generally in the same clan chat. If it weren't for the clan chat i frequent i would never talk to anyone while playing runescape. And yet, even within the clan chat i've frequented for a good 2 years there are people from that younger generation that I can get annoyed with quite easily, but i dont' hold it against them or think any less of them because of it. When i was 14-17 I had a friends list full of people on runescape too because you just have more in common with the average runescaper at that age. On the rare occasion i tell someone how old I am in public chat it's always the same "amg, you're 21 and you still play this game?~~@!~?!?". I guess at that age not everyone understands that while things in your life change and you grow as a person, just because you become 4-6 years older doesn't necessarily mean you no longer enjoy things from your childhood.

[Jesus_Status]

The good old days :)

I remember having to lend my brother full mithril which at the time was like 70% of my bank just so that he could beat the vampire from the vampire slayer quest...I told him i would literally murder him if he died and lost it lol... I think it's just the nostalgia, like with the old pokemon games...if you go back and plays those there kinda boring now but they just seem to be the greatest games ever invented imo. But the community does kinda seem worse, everyone seemed mroe friendly and willing to help you out back in the day, now it seems everyone is focused on getting the max xp or gp per hour and they have no time to have a conversation.

[Mio]

If you really wanted too these days, You can play the game completly 'Solo' without speaking one word to any player. Which is why in some ways, I hate runescape. Not dislike, Actual hate. I miss the community aspect of runescape, where you would stand at the coal rocks and talk to others, Run to falador bank and shout out that you're selling 'X' amount of coal... Those days in my opinion were the golden days of runescape, which I will greatly miss. The game has became too userfriendly and safety bubble wrapped to all players; For example, Warnings EVERYWHERE before entering dungeons, such as varrock sewers, You get a huge warning about it being dangerous, Back in the day that was a part of the excitment of runescape; The unknowing. The Grand exchange has ruined alot for me, aswell as quite a few other things. But at the end of the day it's only a game. Games develope over time. Just have to learn to enjoy it.

[Rock Hard]

i have about five names on my friends list, and two of them are my own alts

 

:s

 

i think its because ive grown up, and now all the 'cool people' i would meet and chat with now just seem to be kids, or losers who take rs too seriously

 

nobody im really arsed about getting to know now hm :/

 

I think for those of us who have played long enough to really have "grown up" with the game this is very true. I've played since the absolute beginning of Runescape so we're talking a good 9 years of my life... A lot happens to you in 9 years, when you go from 12-21 and continue to play the same game, the way you are going to play that game will change. I find absolutely no interest in getting to know anyone in the public chat area of runescape. I dont' talk to anyone in public unless they're asking me questions or unless they start the conversation and I don't want to be impolite. However, as soon as you get the inevitable "add to friends?" I always log out and switch worlds. I just don't have almost anything in common with the age group of 13-17 that makes up the vast majority of players.

 

I also think that clan chats have changed Runescape quite a bit. No one feels the need to socialize through forums as much anymore or through public or pm because your "friends" in runescape are generally in the same clan chat. If it weren't for the clan chat i frequent i would never talk to anyone while playing runescape. And yet, even within the clan chat i've frequented for a good 2 years there are people from that younger generation that I can get annoyed with quite easily, but i dont' hold it against them or think any less of them because of it. When i was 14-17 I had a friends list full of people on runescape too because you just have more in common with the average runescaper at that age. On the rare occasion i tell someone how old I am in public chat it's always the same "amg, you're 21 and you still play this game?~~@!~?!?". I guess at that age not everyone understands that while things in your life change and you grow as a person, just because you become 4-6 years older doesn't necessarily mean you no longer enjoy things from your childhood.

 

dead right, exactly how i feel

[Mr_Muto]

i have about five names on my friends list, and two of them are my own alts

 

:s

 

i think its because ive grown up, and now all the 'cool people' i would meet and chat with now just seem to be kids, or losers who take rs too seriously

 

nobody im really arsed about getting to know now hm :/

 

I think for those of us who have played long enough to really have "grown up" with the game this is very true. I've played since the absolute beginning of Runescape so we're talking a good 9 years of my life... A lot happens to you in 9 years, when you go from 12-21 and continue to play the same game, the way you are going to play that game will change. I find absolutely no interest in getting to know anyone in the public chat area of runescape. I dont' talk to anyone in public unless they're asking me questions or unless they start the conversation and I don't want to be impolite. However, as soon as you get the inevitable "add to friends?" I always log out and switch worlds. I just don't have almost anything in common with the age group of 13-17 that makes up the vast majority of players.

 

I also think that clan chats have changed Runescape quite a bit. No one feels the need to socialize through forums as much anymore or through public or pm because your "friends" in runescape are generally in the same clan chat. If it weren't for the clan chat i frequent i would never talk to anyone while playing runescape. And yet, even within the clan chat i've frequented for a good 2 years there are people from that younger generation that I can get annoyed with quite easily, but i dont' hold it against them or think any less of them because of it. When i was 14-17 I had a friends list full of people on runescape too because you just have more in common with the average runescaper at that age. On the rare occasion i tell someone how old I am in public chat it's always the same "amg, you're 21 and you still play this game?~~@!~?!?". I guess at that age not everyone understands that while things in your life change and you grow as a person, just because you become 4-6 years older doesn't necessarily mean you no longer enjoy things from your childhood.

 

dead right, exactly how i feel

 

You pretty much hit the nail on the head for me. My friendslist currently has 49 people added, and a good 1/2 of them are either quit or retired players. Like you said, if it wasn't for CC I wouldn't even bother talking to anyone. The way the community has gone down hill as a whole in the past few years scares me, I'd rather not be a part of it. Although it does make RS a tad more boring with nobody to ever talk to.

 

I've searched high and low for good communities just to hang out and chat for the past 2 years, and I don't think I've really found anything special. There's little to nothing that I have in common with the majority of the population like you said. It's sad.

[Dinstruction]

I'm sure a lot of people consider 2005-2007 to be the "prime." Back then, people complained that the community was nicer in the Classic days. And I'm sure when people played RSC, there were people complaining that the game was a lot more fun when RS was run out of Andrew Gower's dorm room.

[la la la]

Times change, and those that handle it best are those willing to grab the change by the horns. Stop worrying about clan chats taking over world 99 edgeville, and get involved in a clan chat. If you are mad about free trade, get into the rares market... that's sure fun to pay attention to.

[Obtaurian]

I have more friends now than I've ever had in my entire Runescape career.