Partyhats

[Squisher_33]

i see getting them to be more of a challenge now, and somewhat enjoyable as compared to no lifing for cash then entering an offer and recieving your paper

[Kaur]

Partyhats. Are they worth it anymore?

Hell yeah.

 

 

You will notice that the top 4 partyhats (green,red,white,blue) exceeds the maximum cash limit to buy them with the addition of junk that must be compensated for trade. What do you think about this?

Well, I blame the game, not the player. I know the street prices thing is hard to work with but there is nothing we can do.

 

Is it fair for partyhat owners to hoard their glory in owning these trinkets and restrict on selling back for profit?

All is fair in love and war. Selling back does not give you any profit. I doubt I will ever sell my hat for money because making cash is so easy compared to buying a new hat.

 

are there any solutions in "fixing" this problem to where partyhats can be distributed again?

Fix the way GE works, rise the price every geupdate 20mil closer to the street price and watch partyhats selling in ge again once they reach their true value. Trust me, they won't even reach 1.5bil that way.

 

I'm sorry if I offended any merchants/phat owners out there. I own a green partyhat myself so please bare with me.

I am not offended when you sell me your partyhat for ge price for "profits" :thumbsup:

[Aribiterspar]

totaly worth it

[Sir_Kurity]

Maybe because not all partyhat owners Rwt?

 

And not all bounty hunters RWT either.

 

But hey, that was removed.

[MightyMuddy]

Saying its almost impossible to get into the rare market without rares, what about santas they sell or do they count as something eles, as thier more common?

[Bladewing]

Is it fair for partyhat owners to hoard their glory in owning these trinkets and restrict on selling back for profit?

hoard

this doesn't exist to the extent you and others assert that it does

 

the solution is to have more frequent price updates, wider margins for min-max, or just reintroducing free trade

 

none of those will happen

 

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also you can still get a partyhat, 1.4b cash can buy you a purple with NO MERCHANTING required, you then just have to get rid of the junk

[Star_Fox]

I honestly don't care for them like I use to, I'd rather invest money into skills than buy a silly hat that does nothing.

 

Yes throw it into a silly skill that does nothing makes a whole lot more sense.

 

Skills are worthless unless you value showing off levels, while party hats show off wealth and INCREASE your wealth at the same time.

 

that is kind of biased. don't you think?

[Sir_Kurity]

-Farming? (Nope)

 

Assuming you don't do magic trees to 99, hell yea your gonna get your investment back.

 

Herb runs are one of the best ways to make money in the game when you consider how much effort (or lack of) is required on your part.

[Sir_Kurity]

Oh yea, party hats and rares in general are worth way more than 99's if you can afford it.

[Sir_Kurity]

You didnt see my edit like 0.5 seconds after your post.

[Kill_Life]

I liked partyhats and all rares a lot more when they were worth several mills and kept on dropping.

Atleast you bought one back then because you wanted to own one. Prices were most likely to drop, so the ones buying one did it for thing other than to earn money later.

Now, it's a very disgusting market, imo.

[la la la]

I don't like it when people try to make partyhat owners look like greedy hoarders. Most of us have been playing for a very long time and view partyhats as a trophy more special than any 99. It's the broken GE along with inflation that makes this problem, not greed. Sheesh.

[lucipher6]

Long answer: No.

[Assume Nothing]

Well, that's the way things go. Inflation will never stop in a game like this, and eventually, the buying power of gp will become so weak that we'll hit the max trade limit.

 

How should we go about fixing the problem... perhaps adjust the GE a bit. If there's a massive difference in buy and sell offers, update the GE for that specific item.

[z0diark]

I don't think it matters, once someone owns an item it's up to them if they want to resell it and at what price they want to sell it for. I really don't see the problem, it's not as if partyhats are useful items that can improve gameplay/make the game easier (i.e. divine spirit shields) and even with them I don't think there's really a problem :/

[gremmy]

I find it totally fair that they make the partyhat prices skyrocket, in fact if there were no street prices, the partyhats would obviously be less sought, which would suck imo. There will only be less partyhats in the game, and it's only fair that it takes skill and massive amounts of finances to get a hold of one, because of the massive respect and prestige you receive from having one.

[Will H]

We're just seeing market forces at play, although to extreme levels. On the other hand, the GE can't keep up with these extreme forces, and that's the biggest problem.

[timmmmm83]

I don't see anything wrong with partyhats.

 

GE is flawed and hoarding to increase 'street' should be made impossible.

Every item with street is subject to RWT, add several 100 dollar bills and you got yourself a partyhat at trade price.

[Troacctid]

which 99's will return your investment on them *if you save up to buy 99 skills instead of buying rares*?

 

 

-Smithing? (Nope)

-Fletching? (Nope)

-Construction? (Nope)

-Farming? (Nope)

-Firemaking? (Nope)

-Crafting? (Nope)

-Cooking?(yes - powertraining cooking to 94 then cooking sharks on days that they are profitable will return your initial investment, however small cost to level and small profit at the end)

 

Did I miss any?

 

 

 

 

The most common arguement against party hats is they are vanity items with no use. While this is true people overlook that they are vanity items that RISE in value overtime therefor they are as much for looks as for investing.

 

So to answer the question, no its not biased at all.

Skill levels do rise in value over time. Prayer and herblore are prime examples.

[lordkafei]

The only problem with party hats per se is that there are too many wannabee egalitarians playing the game. I'd never sell mine - it's a treasured souvenir of days gone by. But I'll never have the money to actually buy one.

[Master_Smither]

As Lalala said, they are considered trophies to those who didn't buy them just because they were rising. It's like an untradeable event item: you wear it for the sole purpose of showing what you have accomplished. This applies to the majority of partyhat owners. However, the majority of partyhats are held among a select group of players, who hoard the item only to make profit. There always be people like this everywhere you go, but rarely will they make it impossible to achieve something. Remember all they want in money, and if you offer enough they'll gladly give you the hat they have no really attachment to. A broken system and a massive increase in the amount of gold per player has caused these hats to skyrocket. More and more people can afford their trophy now, and more and more people want what they've always wanted. Personally, I have always wanted a white. I bought it for 252.6M back when they were crashing junk. I was told I was stupid and it was a waste of money (heck I still hear that), but it was my money and I wanted that hat. Later in RuneScape, I wanted a red, so I worked my rear off for it. To my amazement, I managed to get another white. Instead of taking two reds for a white, I traded a friend who owned a red and made their dream come true. But I digress. There is no easy fix to this situation; however, partyhats are not impossible to buy, it just takes a lot more work than just making gold, which is very easy these days. A few weeks of corping could potentially land you a shield that can be traded for one of the three lower p hats and from there you can make your way up with some dedication. The system is broken, but it's not impossible to by-pass it. If you really want a partyhat you'll work for it no matter what it takes; it's as simple as that.

[Jaded]

I don't like it when people try to make partyhat owners look like greedy hoarders. Most of us have been playing for a very long time and view partyhats as a trophy more special than any 99.

 

Yup, to me partyhats is what makes the skillcape worth getting. More people will get "your" skillcape as the game goes on, partyhats set your outfit apart. I know everyone has an attack cape, I want one to match my red (and eventually slayer, but that's more of a really long term goal lol). To be seen as a hoarder because you never intend to sell is a little sad. Making geepees and buying skillcapes is easy now, a diamond phat is forever.

[Guest jrhairychest]

Partyhats, as we know it are impossible to obtain through normal means of saving up $$ and finally buying that must have item...The

price established for partyhats are exorbitantly high to shun away from the public market. Now what we have are unofficial street prices

to determine what partyhats are worth. You will notice that the top 4 partyhats (green,red,white,blue) exceeds the maximum cash

limit to buy them with the addition of junk that must be compensated for trade. What do you think about this? As far as I

can remember, there were NO specific situation like this. Ever.

 

Is it fair for partyhat owners to hoard their glory in owning these trinkets and restrict on selling back for profit? More importantly,

are there any solutions in "fixing" this problem to where partyhats can be distributed again?

 

I'm sorry if I offended any merchants/phat owners out there. I own a green partyhat myself so please bare with me.

 

Good post this.

 

I don't own one and I don't think I ever will, but I'll still live in hope I spose. I can understand the rises to a point - It's a rare item and so should be treated accordingly including the G.E price for it. IMO both players and Jagex are to blame for this debacle:

 

Players - Greed is a major part and I also don't go along with this 'street price' thing either. It's just another way of trying to inflate prices way beyond their game value for these types of items. Its pure greed no matter which way you try to justify it.

 

Jagex - I don't often blame Jagex for things but in this case they've got things a little skewed. They didn't like players setting a street price for mint cakes or Mjiolners (sorry for the spelling) so they stopped both of those in their tracks pretty quickly with some rather hilarious updates. But at the same time they allow players to set street prices for rares. IMO they should either allow both or disallow both. It doesn't help that Jagex condones junk trading too.

 

I would agree that the G.E prices for rares like phats should have been set at a more realistic value. However if they had we'd still have this G.E. price vs street price debacle because inevitably the greed sets in once more with players <_< . Sad but true.

[MerchantInTheDark]

Partyhats can only get rarer, I love my red+white+blue set. You get alot of respect for your accomplishment, and it's great to own something that you know is actually rare and limited (unlike skillcapes). I'd say it's worth it.

[manitstinks]

Seriously it is a silly hat. If I ever do own a partyhat, i would buy one then quit. Why wouldn't I waste my money on something more useful. Bronze meds give more bonuses. If you want to show that you have been around for a long time, whip out your Easter bunny ears.