Dungeonsweepers (DGS) - Huge changes; read first post.

[AlertMinotar]

So just some things I need to work on (listing here so you can all yell at me till I do it):

 

- Revise guidelines to make them more readable.

- 3rd bind guide including strategy, advantages, etc.

- Fix some links on the front page.

- Kick some of your asses into gear (we need keyers and wingpeople, and that means YOU . . . yes you).

- Get 120 dungeoneering.

- Change my name back to Obtaurian to prevent hex drops.

 

Anything else?

 

Get me a Hex.

[Capt_Davy]

So just some things I need to work on (listing here so you can all yell at me till I do it):

 

- Revise guidelines to make them more readable.

- 3rd bind guide including strategy, advantages, etc.

- Fix some links on the front page.

- Kick some of your asses into gear (we need keyers and wingpeople, and that means YOU . . . yes you).

- Get 120 dungeoneering.

- Change my name back to Obtaurian to prevent hex drops.

 

Anything else?

 

Get me a Hex.

Get me a Hex too. Seeing one without being able to bind it is such a tease.

[Obtaurian]

Not that I expect to see another hexhunter bow before 100 dungeoneering, but I was wondering...the current suggestion for sub-100 dg'ers with a hex bound is to bind sagittarian arrows and a hood as well, and to craft surge runes. But would binding a hex with a hood + surgebox, and buy arrows from the smuggler asap, be more effective and cheaper? I mean, novite arrows are only 40 gp each, and I believe grimy said they have half the DPS of sagittarian, and doesn't the majority of hex's damage come from the bow's special effect + desperado ring?

 

That's an option, yeah. It's very easy to just pick up surge runes along the way, though, and the majority of your worth to the team will be in dealing with mages and bosses, so I'd say just keep the arrows and find/make surge runes. Matt Marche snatches battlemage from CSBers sometimes because he finds a way to mage every floor. ;)

[Andy]

Not that I expect to see another hexhunter bow before 100 dungeoneering, but I was wondering...the current suggestion for sub-100 dg'ers with a hex bound is to bind sagittarian arrows and a hood as well, and to craft surge runes. But would binding a hex with a hood + surgebox, and buy arrows from the smuggler asap, be more effective and cheaper? I mean, novite arrows are only 40 gp each, and I believe grimy said they have half the DPS of sagittarian, and doesn't the majority of hex's damage come from the bow's special effect + desperado ring?

With 77 rc a surgebox is pretty useless - you can make a firestaff/surge runes pretty fast when there's downtime. Binding a csb over sagg arrows with only hex as your primary weapon is a bad idea.

[Capt_Davy]

Not that I expect to see another hexhunter bow before 100 dungeoneering, but I was wondering...the current suggestion for sub-100 dg'ers with a hex bound is to bind sagittarian arrows and a hood as well, and to craft surge runes. But would binding a hex with a hood + surgebox, and buy arrows from the smuggler asap, be more effective and cheaper? I mean, novite arrows are only 40 gp each, and I believe grimy said they have half the DPS of sagittarian, and doesn't the majority of hex's damage come from the bow's special effect + desperado ring?

 

That's an option, yeah. It's very easy to just pick up surge runes along the way, though, and the majority of your worth to the team will be in dealing with mages and bosses, so I'd say just keep the arrows and find/make surge runes. Matt Marche snatches battlemage from CSBers sometimes because he finds a way to mage every floor. ;)

 

With 77 rc a surgebox is pretty useless - you can make a firestaff/surge runes pretty fast when there's downtime. Binding a csb over sagg arrows with only hex as your primary weapon is a bad idea.

 

Thanks for the answers guys, now I see why arrows > surgebox for sub-100 dg hex binds. I'll remember that if I see another hex before 100 dg :P.

[Capt_Davy]

whoops lagged and double posted.

[ghjkl]

make a rule that if you melee you have to be on aggressive

[Andy]

That's just common sense. If someone is off aggressive, tell them to get on it.

[ghjkl]

but some people want to train defense in dungeons and it's annoying

[LinkOlaran]

I noted that occasionally I start a dg with 2h being on defensive style, for some weird reason. I'm not really sure why, but I think it might have something to do with having csb equipped at the end of my previous floor, but it's irritating because sometimes I don't notice it. Same deal with my ring, sometimes I'll forget I had it on blazer and not notice for part of a floor afterwards >.<

 

Mildly annoying, but just shout at me if I happen to do a dg with you guys and this happens and I don't notice quickly enough :P

[Obtaurian]

but some people want to train defense in dungeons and it's annoying

 

If you tell them to get on aggressive and they don't listen, message me their name and I'll happily ban them. Not only is it the VERY FIRST RULE that you have to listen to ranked keyers, it's also heavily implied by the ring guidelines (berserker is the only melee ring mentioned) that aggressive is the only choice you have.

[notasoupbowl]

I noted that occasionally I start a dg with 2h being on defensive style, for some weird reason. I'm not really sure why, but I think it might have something to do with having csb equipped at the end of my previous floor, but it's irritating because sometimes I don't notice it. Same deal with my ring, sometimes I'll forget I had it on blazer and not notice for part of a floor afterwards >.<

 

Mildly annoying, but just shout at me if I happen to do a dg with you guys and this happens and I don't notice quickly enough :P

I don't know about magic, but if you end on crush style at the end of a floor you'll be on defensive in the next floor (with 2h)

[Dragonlordjl]

I'd like to say to everyone: Make it a habit of checking your ring style when you first get into a floor. It's damn easy to forget to switch back to berserker if you finished a floor on a different ring. It only takes a second to check, and it saves the epic facepalm moment later when you realize you've done more than half the DG on blitzer. I've been guilty of this many times myself, which is why I am saying this. DERP DATS Y MAH HITS SUCKED. :razz:

[MrGreens]

cool lowc is back

[notasoupbowl]

[ghjkl]

where is the time

ARE YOU HIDING SOMETHING

[Andy]

It's a very, very old picture.

[Sir_Squab]

Not that I expect to see another hexhunter bow before 100 dungeoneering, but I was wondering...the current suggestion for sub-100 dg'ers with a hex bound is to bind sagittarian arrows and a hood as well, and to craft surge runes. But would binding a hex with a hood + surgebox, and buy arrows from the smuggler asap, be more effective and cheaper? I mean, novite arrows are only 40 gp each, and I believe grimy said they have half the DPS of sagittarian, and doesn't the majority of hex's damage come from the bow's special effect + desperado ring?

 

That's an option, yeah. It's very easy to just pick up surge runes along the way, though, and the majority of your worth to the team will be in dealing with mages and bosses, so I'd say just keep the arrows and find/make surge runes. Matt Marche snatches battlemage from CSBers sometimes because he finds a way to mage every floor. ;)

 

Matt Marche should teach me to mage like a pro.

 

where is the time

ARE YOU HIDING SOMETHING

 

He's a 2 minute man, and not very proud of it.

 

Damn though, I wanna see what that title is called.

[Zaaps1]

Back in the days when Tui only had 44 prestige@@@

 

@SQUAB: "A" For Effort

[Saradomin_Mage]

How about the title that 9 lives got?

[green9090]

That description goes with A for effort, no way to tell what the title it's hiding is.

[notasoupbowl]

I clicked expand while the info on the title popped out, so you saw the description of A for effort far away from the title. No idea what lives got.

[Saradomin_Mage]

I need to learn how to stop dying when keying.

Tips on food collecting + rape room advice?

[notasoupbowl]

I need to learn how to stop dying when keying.

Tips on food collecting + rape room advice?

the floors I don't die on are the ones where people make me range armour or I get armour drops / table armour.

also note where altars are or have people gate them

for rape puzzle rooms you either waste 30 seconds and get backup or suicide

sometimes you can range pray instead and survive (esp with hex / sag body)

beg for food while you're at a gd or a 1 way puzzle someone is doing. ur team will probably be greedy

[Ezkaton]

I need to learn how to stop dying when keying.

Tips on food collecting + rape room advice?

 

I need learn to stop dying full stop.... >.< Friends say "It's not a good dungeon unless E dies once" ;-;

 

How much exp does that cripple me by? Or is it neglegable at 6k to 74 DG?