Behind the Scenes - February

[Urza285]

I've always said that the worst bit (read most boring and dreary) about fight caves is the ridiculously easy but incredibly time consuming waves vefore the jad fight. I'm very dissapointed that this new minigame replicates this. Also a bit worried that you will ONLY be able to defeat this boss with the top end gear of which 99.999% of the RuneScape population just cannot afford. I don't even have 1 firecape though so it's not like i'll ever see this minigame anyway.

 

Free full torva pl0x...

 

Ya I logged in just because I found this post so illogical and, well, one that takes an asinine stance.

This is like raid gear in WoW. If you don't raid, you don't NEED raid level gear. If you don't already have imbued rings, max stats, etc etc etc then the +4 strength won't help you as much. I spent what, 40+ hours at MA just for +4 strength. This is content that is designed to be tough at first, then get easier as strats and get improve. Its naturally self nerfing. I'm glad at least something in RS would be difficult finally.

 

I mean, c'mon. Its not even out yet and you think that only 100 people will be able to beat it? (the 00.001%).

 

Let me say this once again. There is NOTHING in RS that is hard as it is designed to be played. Corp isn't, nex isn't. Sure, if you make it harded by doing it with rune armor or fewer people you make it harder yourself. The content isn't hard. Same thing you can do in WoW. Run a 25 man raid with 20, its gona be harder.

 

I will agree fight caves design with waves and all is flawed, however. I have no problem with that part of the QQ.

 

However, I think the fact that you don't have a firecape, either because you havn't tried or couldn't get one (Note, I didn't get one for a while either, I hated caves found too boring for the cape to be worth it) should preclude you from being a person with any merit to their claim in the first place. Sure, you can have an opinion, but logically, its simply not worth as much. My opinion about current events isn't as valued as an analysts, its nothing personal , its simple logic.

Best thing said on this thread.

[Sy_Accursed]

If it is double Jads it actually sounds very easy, if you lure it right you could wall one Jad, killing the other whilst the other is stuck on the wall, look at the 2 360s for example, Jad is what 6X6? so very easy to wall one against the other (With Rapier its very easy to out-hit healers anyway), the final boss I'm sure once the mechanic is figured out it will be a walk in the park unless it does an AOE type attack that hits through prayer, I hope its a little like Gulega prayer switching up to second of attack, and it being able to 1 hit :P

This relies on the assumption that the new area will have anything to get monsters stuck behind.

All the area need is a boundary for that tactic to work.

Not really, in fight caves (unless I am facing some majorly weird bug) unless 90s/360s/jad are almost completely behind the a rock outcrop they can still attack, not just stuck on a corner like meleers.

You can trap monsters between the wall and another monster. Since Jad is so big, that's fairly easy to do. Jad will only move when you're out of range but standing under him counts as well, so you can 'walk' him to the wall.

 

I still don't see how that helps when they can range and mage through/over/around other monsters

That wasn't so hard now, was it.

 

Oh doh yeah I get what ya meant now.

Though (getting even more speculative) if anything ends up with stomp attacks that tactic wouldn't work either.

[Stev]

If it is double Jads it actually sounds very easy, if you lure it right you could wall one Jad, killing the other whilst the other is stuck on the wall, look at the 2 360s for example, Jad is what 6X6? so very easy to wall one against the other (With Rapier its very easy to out-hit healers anyway), the final boss I'm sure once the mechanic is figured out it will be a walk in the park unless it does an AOE type attack that hits through prayer, I hope its a little like Gulega prayer switching up to second of attack, and it being able to 1 hit :P

This relies on the assumption that the new area will have anything to get monsters stuck behind.

All the area need is a boundary for that tactic to work.

Not really, in fight caves (unless I am facing some majorly weird bug) unless 90s/360s/jad are almost completely behind the a rock outcrop they can still attack, not just stuck on a corner like meleers.

You can trap monsters between the wall and another monster. Since Jad is so big, that's fairly easy to do. Jad will only move when you're out of range but standing under him counts as well, so you can 'walk' him to the wall.

 

I still don't see how that helps when they can range and mage through/over/around other monsters

That wasn't so hard now, was it.

 

Oh doh yeah I get what ya meant now.

Though (getting even more speculative) if anything ends up with stomp attacks that tactic wouldn't work either.

DON'T GIVE JAGEX IDEAS!

 

Although I am finally looking forward to a challenge. :).

[Stev]

[...]

I spent what, 40+ hours at MA just for +4 strength

[...]

Note, I didn't get one for a while either, I hated caves found too boring for the cape to be worth it

[...]

Wut?

 

A half hour to 45 minutes for a cape isn't worth it, but 40 hours... Wut? :P.

[Hedgehog]

I'll probably get all the way to newjad and die from lag and lash out violently irl. Might even get on tv.

[Kirschen]

I'll probably get all the way to newjad and die from lag and lash out violently irl. Might even get on tv.

 

The only time I would get to see the new Jad is posted pictures. I doubt I would want to go for the +8 strength cape yet (do need the original though). Also, I would so watch the screen just to see you. :P

[gago]

I believe there will be too much lag in there due to the new graphics of the TzHaar and all the recent updates(especially burthrope/taverley remake).

I doubt i'd be able to manage two jads with this lag, let alone the new boss...

 

Jagex, please, work on reducing lag before releasing heavy updates :(

[Sy_Accursed]

I believe there will be too much lag in there due to the new graphics of the TzHaar and all the recent updates(especially burthrope/taverley remake).

I doubt i'd be able to manage two jads with this lag, let alone the new boss...

 

Jagex, please, work on reducing lag before releasing heavy updates :(

 

But lag is NOT a universal issue. Plenty of people are lag free, I'd hazard a guess that the lag free people make up the majority now.

[Jonanananas]

I believe there will be too much lag in there due to the new graphics of the TzHaar and all the recent updates(especially burthrope/taverley remake).

I doubt i'd be able to manage two jads with this lag, let alone the new boss...

 

Jagex, please, work on reducing lag before releasing heavy updates :(

 

But lag is NOT a universal issue. Plenty of people are lag free, I'd hazard a guess that the lag free people make up the majority now.

 

It IS an universal issue of many people, just not everyone. It has become much worse with recent updates though, the newest one being the tutorial update which cut my FPS in half(and that of many others). I guess it's certain hardware/driver/whatever incompatibilites that are causing this. I hope Jagex has a fix for this soon :/

 

As for how many people are lag free depends on how you define "lag free". Over 20 fps?

[Sy_Accursed]

I believe there will be too much lag in there due to the new graphics of the TzHaar and all the recent updates(especially burthrope/taverley remake).

I doubt i'd be able to manage two jads with this lag, let alone the new boss...

 

Jagex, please, work on reducing lag before releasing heavy updates :(

 

But lag is NOT a universal issue. Plenty of people are lag free, I'd hazard a guess that the lag free people make up the majority now.

 

It IS an universal issue of many people, just not everyone. It has become much worse with recent updates though, the newest one being the tutorial update which cut my FPS in half(and that of many others). I guess it's certain hardware/driver/whatever incompatibilites that are causing this. I hope Jagex has a fix for this soon :/

 

As for how many people are lag free depends on how you define "lag free". Over 20 fps?

 

If it is NOT effecting everyone it is NOT a universal issue. Universal issues effect EVERYBODY.

[muggiwhplar]

If it is NOT effecting everyone it is NOT a universal issue. Universal issues effect EVERYBODY.

 

I really wish you'd quit correcting people like that >_>

[Jonanananas]

I believe there will be too much lag in there due to the new graphics of the TzHaar and all the recent updates(especially burthrope/taverley remake).

I doubt i'd be able to manage two jads with this lag, let alone the new boss...

 

Jagex, please, work on reducing lag before releasing heavy updates :(

 

But lag is NOT a universal issue. Plenty of people are lag free, I'd hazard a guess that the lag free people make up the majority now.

 

It IS an universal issue of many people, just not everyone. It has become much worse with recent updates though, the newest one being the tutorial update which cut my FPS in half(and that of many others). I guess it's certain hardware/driver/whatever incompatibilites that are causing this. I hope Jagex has a fix for this soon :/

 

As for how many people are lag free depends on how you define "lag free". Over 20 fps?

 

If it is NOT effecting everyone it is NOT a universal issue. Universal issues effect EVERYBODY.

 

Then my definition of the word was off, sorry - not a native speaker. The fact remains that a larger number of people is affected and that the fault is ong Jagex's side.

[Mercifull]

Hello everyone!

 

I want to start by thanking everyone affected by these issues for their ongoing patience and willingness to try out our technical solutions without giving up hope!

 

It really demonstrates the resilience and spirit of the RuneScape community and makes me wish I had a jawbone, muscles and skin on this boney-head of mine, so that I could smile from ear-to-ear... I guess I could use some ears too... meh

 

OK! So, sentimentality aside, I want you to be the first to hear some pretty cool news that I am super excited to share with you.

 

***In the last 24hours, we hit a bit of a breakthrough in our battle against the ongoing FPS/Lag issues!! (WHOOOOOOO!!!)***

 

Although this issue is not fixed yet, we consider this breakthrough to be significant, and feel that it will help us move forward with this. I can't say when you will see the improvements for yourselves - because as I've said a couple of times to people, this is a big and complicated thing.

 

We've been trying to root out the problem for as long as players have reported issues and it looks like we may see great things soon, so I hope you're all ready for some improved FPS fun!

 

Have a great weekend everyone

 

Quick find code: [qfc]25-26-187-63506974[/qfc]

 

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[muggiwhplar]

I'm at 30FPS right now instead of the usual 10.

 

So far so good >_> We'll see how much worse it gets during peak hours in a less secluded location.

[Kaida23]

[spoiler=Mod Krumm quote]

Hello everyone!

 

I want to start by thanking everyone affected by these issues for their ongoing patience and willingness to try out our technical solutions without giving up hope!

 

It really demonstrates the resilience and spirit of the RuneScape community and makes me wish I had a jawbone, muscles and skin on this boney-head of mine, so that I could smile from ear-to-ear... I guess I could use some ears too... meh

 

OK! So, sentimentality aside, I want you to be the first to hear some pretty cool news that I am super excited to share with you.

 

***In the last 24hours, we hit a bit of a breakthrough in our battle against the ongoing FPS/Lag issues!! (WHOOOOOOO!!!)***

 

Although this issue is not fixed yet, we consider this breakthrough to be significant, and feel that it will help us move forward with this. I can't say when you will see the improvements for yourselves - because as I've said a couple of times to people, this is a big and complicated thing.

 

We've been trying to root out the problem for as long as players have reported issues and it looks like we may see great things soon, so I hope you're all ready for some improved FPS fun!

 

Have a great weekend everyone

 

Quick find code: [qfc]25-26-187-63506974[/qfc]

 

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This is excellent news. :thumbsup: Here's hoping they can implement the update sooner rather than later.

[Den]

My fps dropped a bit in the new area. Hope the new fix works when it comes out. |^_^|

[stonewall337]

[...]

I spent what, 40+ hours at MA just for +4 strength

[...]

Note, I didn't get one for a while either, I hated caves found too boring for the cape to be worth it

[...]

Wut?

 

A half hour to 45 minutes for a cape isn't worth it, but 40 hours... Wut? :P.

 

I got fire cape a year before I got MA rings. But I slayed for a while before I went and got fire cape years ago lol.

[turtle drink]

Does anyone think the update will come out later today? There have been quite a few Monday updates recently.

 

Also I think the new dominion tower content and the flasks will be released together, or maybe the flasks will get released alongside the TzHaar update

[arpar90210]

Does anyone think the update will come out later today? There have been quite a few Monday updates recently.

 

Also I think the new dominion tower content and the flasks will be released together, or maybe the flasks will get released alongside the TzHaar update

 

I hope it does, but something tells me it will probably be tomorrow when it does come out.

 

I could definitely see the flasks coming out at the same time as either one of those because it would be super useful for both. I am hoping they may even come out with them earlier so it gives people a chance to make some before those updates.

[Drazhor]

Somebody on Rsof said it was confirmed today...but since when did anybody believe Rsof?

[Saradomin_Mage]

Somebody on Rsof said it was confirmed today...but since when did anybody believe Rsof?

Only when the somebody has a gold background.

Even then, not all the time :P

[The_Fray]

I believe there will be too much lag in there due to the new graphics of the TzHaar and all the recent updates(especially burthrope/taverley remake).

I doubt i'd be able to manage two jads with this lag, let alone the new boss...

 

Jagex, please, work on reducing lag before releasing heavy updates :(

 

But lag is NOT a universal issue. Plenty of people are lag free, I'd hazard a guess that the lag free people make up the majority now.

 

It IS an universal issue of many people, just not everyone. It has become much worse with recent updates though, the newest one being the tutorial update which cut my FPS in half(and that of many others). I guess it's certain hardware/driver/whatever incompatibilites that are causing this. I hope Jagex has a fix for this soon :/

 

As for how many people are lag free depends on how you define "lag free". Over 20 fps?

 

If it is NOT effecting everyone it is NOT a universal issue. Universal issues effect EVERYBODY.

Correct word is AFFECT. It is NOT EFFECT.

 

Sorry couldn't resist. :P

[muggiwhplar]

If it is NOT effecting everyone it is NOT a universal issue. Universal issues effect EVERYBODY.

Correct word is AFFECT. It is NOT EFFECT.

 

Sorry couldn't resist. :P

 

=D>

[Sy_Accursed]

Fair play, I always mix them two up, but meh in this day and age it hardly matters as people read them interchangeably anyway (due to everyone misusing effect in place of affect), one could reasonably argue that in colloquial terms effect = affect.

[Mercifull]

The effect of people mixing up affect and effect is that it affects the ability of others to understand the post.