Behind the Scenes - February

[RoswellCrash]

I think Jagex will be using the signature heros in all trailers from now on, I think that was the idea behind them. It means they might not even feature in the new area & have just been used as celebrity's to showcase it.

 

My thoughts anyway.

[Dire_Wolf]

Why :ohnoes: ? I like him, he is the only level 136^* that will talk to a n00b'y level 78 like me <3:

 

 

*not true, just for possibly bad humour

Lol. I really dislike "Holier than thou" characters. In Runescape quests our avatar's are treated as ameaturs :P

[Blutters]

Why :ohnoes: ? I like him, he is the only level 136^* that will talk to a n00b'y level 78 like me <3:

 

 

*not true, just for possibly bad humour

Lol. I really dislike "Holier than thou" characters. In Runescape quests our avatar's are treated as ameaturs :P

At least Firemaker's Curse was a bit different. We were the resident "expert" adventurer on hand. And usually, those that underestimate us pay.

Dat ass still sore Char? Call me. :shades:

[Cow]

... I destroyed 2222 scorpion meat last month.

 

:mad:

THIS. Kind of feel like I wasted time completing (almost.. missing 25 endurance and some other things) dominion tower when it came out, if my "rewards" were useless and had to be destroyed, and the xp books will be upgraded. I need to get 85 to 86 crafting and 80 to 81 mining to use the flask things, I'll probably convert my potions. Since they break instantly, probably I'll save the (1)s for dungeoneering.

My to-do list: 81 mining, 86 crafting get *another* firecape

 

I'm wondering about the max cape though. I think it'll probably stay +4, but I was kind of looking forward to having one in the far future. Livid farm is a deal breaker for completionist for me

[Dire_Wolf]

 

At least Firemaker's Curse was a bit different. We were the resident "expert" adventurer on hand. And usually, those that underestimate us pay.

Dat ass still sore Char? Call me. :shades:

I think if my avatar had a story it would be to assassinate the "Holier than thou" characters.

 

HIGHEST PRIORITY:

Warrior's Guild

 

Second:

Sandwhich Lady

 

Third:

Wise old man and his bish

 

Fourth:

Signature Heroes (i haven't experienced them but i want to just take them out).

 

 

 

I would never kill Cyrous (the guy from Moonclan Quest that were afraid of fighting). He's really a awesome Npc :)

[Tim]

I've always said that the worst bit (read most boring and dreary) about fight caves is the ridiculously easy but incredibly time consuming waves vefore the jad fight. I'm very dissapointed that this new minigame replicates this. Also a bit worried that you will ONLY be able to defeat this boss with the top end gear of which 99.999% of the RuneScape population just cannot afford. I don't even have 1 firecape though so it's not like i'll ever see this minigame anyway.

 

Free full torva pl0x...

"Are you a poor player who cant afford anything? Do you struggle to make ends meet while those with wealth trample on you? Then this mini-game is JUST for them, to make you feel even worse!"

 

That's basically what it feels like to me from Jagex's stand point :|

 

Still, a nice month none the less.

[Saradomin_Mage]

I've always said that the worst bit (read most boring and dreary) about fight caves is the ridiculously easy but incredibly time consuming waves vefore the jad fight. I'm very dissapointed that this new minigame replicates this. Also a bit worried that you will ONLY be able to defeat this boss with the top end gear of which 99.999% of the RuneScape population just cannot afford. I don't even have 1 firecape though so it's not like i'll ever see this minigame anyway.

 

Free full torva pl0x...

"Are you a poor player who cant afford anything? Do you struggle to make ends meet while those with wealth trample on you? Then this mini-game is JUST for them, to make you feel even worse!"

 

That's basically what it feels like to me from Jagex's stand point :|

 

Still, a nice month none the less.

I think we've been due for some extremely high-leveled content (a la Nex) for a while now.

[Cow]

Same, but I hope the next armour or helmet (We haven't had any in awhile. Neiz in 07, slayer helm 08, expanded in 10. IMO, most outdated) is more along the lines of dominion gloves, dragon defenders and agile armour, etc. Obviously, more difficult to get. But I think new items just needing the 500M+ price tag is a lazy way to introduce new content.

[RoswellCrash]

No mention of armour updates, seems weird to release bronze to steel, then a gap. I'd honestly like to see a large player recruitment drive by Jagex, they are focused on Members to much lately, trying to get everyone to become a member, focus on the free game a bit more! Focus on getting new blood into the game while it's fixed.

 

For new players it's a perfect time to join, making money for beginners items has never been so easy. I really want to see a mass influx of new blood.

 

Just feel like the game needs new blood a lot more than anything else, I think they missed a trick not allowing free players upto Burthorp & Tav and allowing them to train members skill upto level 5 or so for free.

[Alg]

No mention of armour updates, seems weird to release bronze to steel, then a gap. I'd honestly like to see a large player recruitment drive by Jagex, they are focused on Members to much lately, trying to get everyone to become a member, focus on the free game a bit more! Focus on getting new blood into the game while it's fixed.

 

For new players it's a perfect time to join, making money for beginners items has never been so easy. I really want to see a mass influx of new blood.

 

Just feel like the game needs new blood a lot more than anything else, I think they missed a trick not allowing free players upto Burthorp & Tav and allowing them to train members skill upto level 5 or so for free.

100% agreed. All of this members content isn't going to help them get new players; Even people that are opposed to giving updates to F2P acknowledge that players are supposed to start there.

 

That's the one thing that they missed with this update. They release an incredibly comprehensive tutorial that really feels like a part of the game and many tools for low level players to get into the game... But it's only for members. When was the last time a new player jumped straight into members?

 

I hate to join the doomsayer crowd, but it really feels like they're trying to phase out the free game.

[The_Avatar]

No mention of armour updates, seems weird to release bronze to steel, then a gap. I'd honestly like to see a large player recruitment drive by Jagex, they are focused on Members to much lately, trying to get everyone to become a member, focus on the free game a bit more! Focus on getting new blood into the game while it's fixed.

 

For new players it's a perfect time to join, making money for beginners items has never been so easy. I really want to see a mass influx of new blood.

 

Just feel like the game needs new blood a lot more than anything else, I think they missed a trick not allowing free players upto Burthorp & Tav and allowing them to train members skill upto level 5 or so for free.

100% agreed. All of this members content isn't going to help them get new players; Even people that are opposed to giving updates to F2P acknowledge that players are supposed to start there.

 

That's the one thing that they missed with this update. They release an incredibly comprehensive tutorial that really feels like a part of the game and many tools for low level players to get into the game... But it's only for members. When was the last time a new player jumped straight into members?

 

I hate to join the doomsayer crowd, but it really feels like they're trying to phase out the free game.

I wouldn't be surprised if we saw a members free trial, akin to World of Warcraft's "first 20 levels are free" thing, within the year. Honestly I don't see much other reason for this tutorial to be aimed at such low level players.

[Kimberly]

I rather play the game with things i like than grind my way to completing the whole game.

 

Then you should love this new cape and there is certainly no reason to be obsessing over the fact that the completionist cape achieves the goals it sets out to do just because you can't be bothered to obtain them. The only people who should be interested in the strength bonus to be offered by the cape itself are those with the income and time to allow them to already hit the max strength bonus pre-completionist cape release. And I don't think you're one of those people.

[Urza285]

Honestly a good portion of people need to stop looking at things from an end-all-be-all point of view in terms of player classes because that's not how jagex developed their game.

 

The development of the Completionist cape and it's evolution with the release of future content has constantly been restated to the community. The cape will obvious gain the elite firecape abilities. Since the release of the comp cape it has gained the fire cape slayer ability, Ava's alerted abilities, ardougne cloak abilities, spirit cape abilities... And now I wouldn't put it past them to give the cape a boost in strength with the completion of the fight kiln update. As for how the comp cape seems to be functioning/evolving in terms of content (specifically from other capes and mini game content) I foresee abilities not being automatically added when content comes out, but when the player actually earns that ability.

 

tl;dr: expect the guardian for the fight kilns to offer to combine/imbue your Completionist cape with the effects of the elite firecape which includes the strength bonus.

[Arthu]

I would never kill Cyrous (the guy from Moonclan Quest that were afraid of fighting). He's really a awesome Npc :)

 

Didn't he die in WGS?

Oops, spoiled.

[Sylpheed]

I've always said that the worst bit (read most boring and dreary) about fight caves is the ridiculously easy but incredibly time consuming waves vefore the jad fight. I'm very dissapointed that this new minigame replicates this. Also a bit worried that you will ONLY be able to defeat this boss with the top end gear of which 99.999% of the RuneScape population just cannot afford. I don't even have 1 firecape though so it's not like i'll ever see this minigame anyway.

 

Free full torva pl0x...

"Are you a poor player who cant afford anything? Do you struggle to make ends meet while those with wealth trample on you? Then this mini-game is JUST for them, to make you feel even worse!"

 

That's basically what it feels like to me from Jagex's stand point :|

 

Still, a nice month none the less.

I think we've been due for some extremely high-leveled content (a la Nex) for a while now.

 

Extremely high-level content isn't the same as content for the super mega rich 1% of the player base.

[Mercifull]

Extremely high-level content isn't the same as content for the super mega rich 1% of the player base.

Exactly. I'm level 138, 99 prayer and herblore but because I dont have 650 MILLLION gp to fling at the best armour in the game I'm expected to sit it out... Wow, real incentive to play there...

[turtle drink]

Doesn't look quite as good as last month.... The new dominion tower thing could be cool, and giving the gloves more time until they need to be charged is good, but the new tzhaar quest will probably hard due to lag, and it could contain puzzles that don't really work on a game that tends to lag a lot, like The Firemaker's Curse did.

The potion flasks could be useful for sara brews, overloads ect.

 

How much do you think the flasks will cost on the ge?

[Saradomin_Mage]

Extremely high-level content isn't the same as content for the super mega rich 1% of the player base.

Exactly. I'm level 138, 99 prayer and herblore but because I dont have 650 MILLLION gp to fling at the best armour in the game I'm expected to sit it out... Wow, real incentive to play there...

Similar to Nex, in that sense. You needed not only the high skill levels to have a yak carting brews while you're laden with overloads, but you also needed a very high initial capital (Sigil shields etc) to be able to reach optimality with Nex. Similarly, this new boss builds on the requirements laid down for Nex, expecting you to make use of Nex's drops to reach a similar level of optimality here, just as you had to make use of CB and GWD drops against Nex. Granted, the timeframe of only a year between Nex and this new minigame is much shorter than that of Nex and the Corporeal Beast, but nonetheless Nex armour has become more commonplace now (Virtus is really only 200M for the whole set, which is pretty relative to Bandos in early post-GWD given inflation and whatnot).

 

If all else fails, wait for the LP update for the rest of the armour sets.

[Urza285]

Do you guys honestly think that you'll need the highest grade armor (nex dropables) to complete the fight kiln? Don't judge the level of skill and gear needed until you see how it works. For all we know you may just need high end Mage protection gear such as ganodermic and that's not even hard to come by. For all we know what was said was just some hype words to get players motivated to suit up with their best. No where did it say we needed torva, pernix or Virtus.

[Kimberly]

Extremely high-level content isn't the same as content for the super mega rich 1% of the player base.

Exactly. I'm level 138, 99 prayer and herblore but because I dont have 650 MILLLION gp to fling at the best armour in the game I'm expected to sit it out... Wow, real incentive to play there...

 

You can't seriously make the assumption that torva and pernix type armors are a requirement. In most cases doesn't Ganodermic come close (for a average-level armor) to the performance values of torva anyway? I'm not Bird_Of_Prey to bet with fellow forum members, but if I was, I'd lay 10mil (or more if I had it) on the table right now to say that within the first month, people will find ways to do it successfully without even considering torva/pernix.

 

You're killing the incentive to play all on your own, and before the content is even released! And many players, like myself, have long since killed the incentive to try and fail. Instead many people wait for others to find workarounds and handy set-ups to make our lives easier so we face as little challenge as possible when we can even be bothered to go...

 

Step back and take a breather, perhaps.

[999134]

I am pretty sure the caves will NOT be as hard as jagex thinks they will be, defiantly at least after people have worked out the best ways to complete them.

How many other bosses have jagex described as uber hard, just to be beatable fairly easily pretty soon.

[Dire_Wolf]

 

 

Then you should love this new cape and there is certainly no reason to be obsessing over the fact that the completionist cape achieves the goals it sets out to do just because you can't be bothered to obtain them. The only people who should be interested in the strength bonus to be offered by the cape itself are those with the income and time to allow them to already hit the max strength bonus pre-completionist cape release. And I don't think you're one of those people.

I started posting again because i saw the news about sequel to Fight cave.

 

And the time i played Runescape i did not limit myself. I gained 85+ in all skills (even though they didn't have much to do with combat), for quest, diary and other requirements. Despite being a player type that likes combat i did all that.

Just because i don't want to grind like others does not mean i am limiting myself.

 

As of now the Completionist cape is just a cape catering to grinders.

Even though Combat players should have the stats of Comp cape in form of a crap looking cape with no emote. Because afterall a Combat player would have 120 in Dung, gotten 99 in all Combat and finished the combat related activities related to Completion challenge.

And how can you fill the gap when Combat players are given a cape with same stats as Comp? You can give more rewards to Completionist cape such as a statue of your avatar in POH.

 

 

Completionist cape is just a item for certain players to feel exclusive and special.

If you gave the stats that Comp cape has to Combat players (players who've achieved the limit of Combat), and added more rewards to Completionist cape, the Comp players would complain. Why? They want to maintain their status.

 

 

But hey those who grind much will eventually get Comp cape. And grinding leads to addiction, and addiction leads to money for Jagex.

So it's all good.

[Kimberly]

Just because i don't want to grind like others does not mean i am limiting myself.

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But hey those who grind much will eventually get Comp cape. And grinding leads to addiction, and addiction leads to money for Jagex.

So it's all good.

 

It's completely asinine to assume that those who have the comp cape are 'addicted'. And yes, you are limiting yourself if you're not willing to train (or "grind" as you like to say).

 

I seriously don't know what to tell you. Your assumptions are actually pretty offensive and ill-conceived. Sorry you checked back into the game and found a piece of impending content you didn't like, but there's a big difference between stating your opinions and passing them off as fact.

[Dire_Wolf]

It's completely asinine to assume that those who have the comp cape are 'addicted'. And yes, you are limiting yourself if you're not willing to train (or "grind" as you like to say).

 

I seriously don't know what to tell you. Your assumptions are actually pretty offensive and ill-conceived. Sorry you checked back into the game and found a piece of impending content you didn't like, but there's a big difference between stating your opinions and passing them off as fact.

The time i played i did everything to get optimize my avatar's gear. And i did that, and even more.

It's not completely asinine to assume that those who have comp cape are addicts, but it would be asinine to assume they all are. Be realistic.

 

 

 

And i am not limiting myself, because i would do anything combat related to get a combat reward. You ask for a combat reward - you must do a combat challenge. And that i am willing to.

The only thing limiting me is the flaw that you have to complete the whole game to receive the reward in form of best stats cape.

Please don't be like many others and tell me the line "Well that's the reward for finishing the game", there is MANY ways to reward people who have completed the game than give them the best stats cape, and thus indirectly force Combat players to grind for it.

[Saradomin_Mage]

And the time i played Runescape i did not limit myself. I gained 85+ in all skills

 

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As of now the Completionist cape is just a cape catering to grinders.

 

So you got to 85+ all skills without ever grinding? Do tell your secrets please :rolleyes:

 

Please don't be like many others and tell me the line "Well that's the reward for finishing the game", there is MANY ways to reward people who have completed the game than give them the best stats cape, and thus indirectly force Combat players to grind for it.

 

No one asked you or is forcing you to grind for it. If you want the best cape, stat-wise, in the game, then decide for yourself if you want to grind for it.

Or hey, maybe do the same secret non-grind that got you to level 85+!