27-Mar-2012 - Morytania Tasks

[HunterDexter]

Oh cool, necromancer is more common now. :D Still a bit sad that I spend so much time on trying to get the set back then. :P

[Quyneax]

Finished all tasks :). It's a good task set overall imo though the TT requirements of both 500 and 594 levels is a bit double. I guess the ghast is mainly for summoning.

[icecube]

Oh wow! Is that a hard or elite reward? I would love to get necro, and it was too rare before...

The increased rate for better keys for burning shades? Just hard.

[hatebringer]

how can you tell how many vyerwatch you have burned? do you actually have to go to the place where you burn them? (the collambarium or (sp)?

[J35u5_M4]

You can use the check option on your Ivandis Flail, or go check at that place

[strilmus]

no, see, the snails can be distracted easily, but the snakes, you can't make them stop no matter what, once they've locked onto a target and made contact

[Blutters]

[qfc]15-16-994-63650714[/qfc]

Why wasn't Mos Le' Harmless and Braindeath Island included?

 

Mod Maz: These aren't part of the Morytania area as far as the diaries are concerned. Don't worry, they will be included in a diary, just not this one.

???

I think it would be a bit lazy to have an "everywhere else" diary...

[Fred_S]

So improved temple trekk rewards at hard, just wondering about this one. If i choose to keep the rewards i get from it until i get hard done will all my xp rewards improve from 100-500xp?

[Mirror]

So improved temple trekk rewards at hard, just wondering about this one. If i choose to keep the rewards i get from it until i get hard done will all my xp rewards improve from 100-500xp?

Should. I recently dumped the TT xp tomes I've been getting and I did notice an increase, but it could have been just my dumb luck. Either way, I enjoyed getting all that xp and many more to go (still have to raise the two hard travelers)

[Poppet]

The Blood Altar tablet reduction is sexy.

 

Example: You start with 60 tablets, 50% returns is 30 tablets. Then, apply line theory; 30-15-8-4-2-1.

 

With rounding, blood tablets are now 100% more efficient.

[Urza285]

The Blood Altar tablet reduction is sexy.

 

Example: You start with 60 tablets, 50% returns is 30 tablets. Then, apply line theory; 30-15-8-4-2-1.

 

With rounding, blood tablets are now 100% more efficient.

Jagex always truncates down though, but regardless you are right.

[Drazhor]

[qfc]15-16-994-63650714[/qfc]

Why wasn't Mos Le' Harmless and Braindeath Island included?

 

Mod Maz: These aren't part of the Morytania area as far as the diaries are concerned. Don't worry, they will be included in a diary, just not this one.

???

I think it would be a bit lazy to have an "everywhere else" diary...

It'll probably be a "Islands" diary or something, that way they'd include a few more places! :P

[Sy_Accursed]

The Blood Altar tablet reduction is sexy.

 

Example: You start with 60 tablets, 50% returns is 30 tablets. Then, apply line theory; 30-15-8-4-2-1.

 

With rounding, blood tablets are now 100% more efficient.

Jagex always truncates down though, but regardless you are right.

 

Yeah with Jagex rounding the sequence would more likely be

60-30-15-7-3-1

 

As 7.5, 3.5 and 1.5 would round downwards opposed to upwards.

Still a estimated total of 116 teleports from 60 tablets is quite nice.

[Saradomin_Mage]

Isn't it just a 50% chance that using a tablet doesn't consume it?

[Sy_Accursed]

Isn't it just a 50% chance that using a tablet doesn't consume it?

 

Yes. But still in terms of rough estimates you can take it as a linear line of 60 tablets 'used' = 30 left etc.

Of course it won't fall perfectly accurate, but it's a good rough estimation of how a tablet pile will progress.

[Sylpheed]

It's not a big enough sample to conclude anything but I burnt 30 Fiyr remains that I got from TT with Mory legs 3 on and got 3 Gold keys.

 

I'd say that's an indication of a pretty big increase in key quality considering without legs I would have gotten that many keys from burning 100.

[Sy_Accursed]

It's not a big enough sample to conclude anything but I burnt 30 Fiyr remains that I got from TT with Mory legs 3 on and got 3 Gold keys.

 

I'd say that's an indication of a pretty big increase in key quality considering without legs I would have gotten that many keys from burning 100.

 

Well all sources so far say the legs make gold keys 1 in 10 opposed to 1 in 50, so 3 in 30 corroborates that further.

[Sylpheed]

It's not a big enough sample to conclude anything but I burnt 30 Fiyr remains that I got from TT with Mory legs 3 on and got 3 Gold keys.

 

I'd say that's an indication of a pretty big increase in key quality considering without legs I would have gotten that many keys from burning 100.

 

Well all sources so far say the legs make gold keys 1 in 10 opposed to 1 in 50, so 3 in 30 corroborates that further.

 

Assuming its accurate I'm surprised they increased the rate that you get them by so much. I remember them saying in the Q&A released with it that they wanted the Necro robes to be something to show off.

[Sy_Accursed]

It's not a big enough sample to conclude anything but I burnt 30 Fiyr remains that I got from TT with Mory legs 3 on and got 3 Gold keys.

 

I'd say that's an indication of a pretty big increase in key quality considering without legs I would have gotten that many keys from burning 100.

 

Well all sources so far say the legs make gold keys 1 in 10 opposed to 1 in 50, so 3 in 30 corroborates that further.

 

Assuming its accurate I'm surprised they increased the rate that you get them by so much. I remember them saying in the Q&A released with it that they wanted the Necro robes to be something to show off.

 

Probably because they have come to the realisation that if it not useful in terms of stats or only marginally gainful (and only then if you are not a meta gamer) people do not want to pay insane prices for it and/or spend many many many many many hours getting it. I mean mining suit, lumberjack and constructor's are all reasonably easy to get (even if not meta game worthy) and the majority probably have them or intend to get them. But Black Ibis, Master RC and Necro virtually nobody actually has. Master Rc due to it taking ages, Ibis due to it being ridiculously rare so you can do virtually all of 1-99 thief at pp and still not get it and Necro because it is stupidly rare and has no actual use to it.

[Hedgehog]

It's not a big enough sample to conclude anything but I burnt 30 Fiyr remains that I got from TT with Mory legs 3 on and got 3 Gold keys.

 

I'd say that's an indication of a pretty big increase in key quality considering without legs I would have gotten that many keys from burning 100.

 

Well all sources so far say the legs make gold keys 1 in 10 opposed to 1 in 50, so 3 in 30 corroborates that further.

 

Assuming its accurate I'm surprised they increased the rate that you get them by so much. I remember them saying in the Q&A released with it that they wanted the Necro robes to be something to show off.

 

Probably because they have come to the realisation that if it not useful in terms of stats or only marginally gainful (and only then if you are not a meta gamer) people do not want to pay insane prices for it and/or spend many many many many many hours getting it. I mean mining suit, lumberjack and constructor's are all reasonably easy to get (even if not meta game worthy) and the majority probably have them or intend to get them. But Black Ibis, Master RC and Necro virtually nobody actually has. Master Rc due to it taking ages, Ibis due to it being ridiculously rare so you can do virtually all of 1-99 thief at pp and still not get it and Necro because it is stupidly rare and has no actual use to it.

Burning shades is almost as efficient as conventional prayer training. If you value necro robes, then it becomes more efficient.

 

Master rc robes only take 40 hours in a 50:50 world. So if you lose membership for a few days, it's not that bad.

[Sy_Accursed]

 

Probably because they have come to the realisation that if it not useful in terms of stats or only marginally gainful (and only then if you are not a meta gamer) people do not want to pay insane prices for it and/or spend many many many many many hours getting it. I mean mining suit, lumberjack and constructor's are all reasonably easy to get (even if not meta game worthy) and the majority probably have them or intend to get them. But Black Ibis, Master RC and Necro virtually nobody actually has. Master Rc due to it taking ages, Ibis due to it being ridiculously rare so you can do virtually all of 1-99 thief at pp and still not get it and Necro because it is stupidly rare and has no actual use to it.

Burning shades is almost as efficient as conventional prayer training. If you value necro robes, then it becomes more efficient.

 

Master rc robes only take 40 hours in a 50:50 world. So if you lose membership for a few days, it's not that bad.

 

Really? I'd like to see some numbers on that because between getting pyre logs and shade remains shades seem awfully slow. Even factoring in the recent 50% boost its 150xp per fiyr shade on an animation that takes longer and more actions than altering bones for like 200+ xp a pop at a much faster rate. Not seen any hard and fast numbers but just the animation timing alone seems like it'd put shades significantly behind conventional training.

 

And 40 hours is still absolutely ages, especially on a skill that is as slow as RC in the first place AND you only manage to qualify it as 'not that bad' on the condition of lapsed membership especially for an item with a boost that only saves you like 2 or 3 hours on the entirety of 1-99.

[Hedgehog]

 

And I never said that rc robes were worth it; just that if you wanted to get them, it wouldn't be too bad.

[Saradomin_Mage]

Ring of wealth boosts Gold Chest rewards? Really?

 

AAAAAAAAAAAAARRGH

[Sy_Accursed]

 

And I never said that rc robes were worth it; just that if you wanted to get them, it wouldn't be too bad.

 

I have to say that video did nothing for your case, the guy himself even says "it's not great xp" and that you can burn about 400 shades an hour (so 60k pray xp on fiyrs with the legs)

Last I heard altaring bones was nearer to 1k bones an hour, even some low end bone that nets about 150xp at altar you be getting over 2* as much xp.

 

I can see the argument it may be kind of good as a combined fm and pray trainer, but certainly nowhere near efficient for either skill.

[Platinum_Myr]

But he was referring to if you *value* the robes, then its not that bad.