D. V. Devnull Posted September 30, 2007 Share Posted September 30, 2007 If they gave f2p all those things then they would have the same magic as p2p up until lvl 80.... Destroying the point in p2p mages.... The suggestion isn't about getting ALL of them, it is about getting 1 or 2 of them. Giving us all of them would probably do too much for Magic in the triangle. Agreed @ unkn0wnwarrior Evil_Pig20, we're not asking for the whole [bleep]ed kit and kaboodle. We are only asking for enough to balance the F2P combat triangle for the higher levels and nothing more. Also, in reference to your earlier post, Evil_Pig20, if you had read Andrew Gower's posts and words better, you would understand that P2P is the expansion, and F2P is a base game full of dependencies on P2P caused purely by scum like autoers, macroers, RWT's (Real World Traders), and Gold-Sellers. If it weren't for all of that scum that needs to be erased, F2P might have been a self-contained game in itself, design-wise. <*Punches Evil_Pig20's lights out and walks out the door until next time he checks this thread... D_V_Devnull is NOT in a good mood today.*> ~Mr. D. V. Devnull and normally with a cool mind.(Warning: This user can be VERY confusing to some people... And talks in 3rd person for the timebeing due to how insane they are... Sometimes even to themself.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Outsanity Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I support, but you're a MORON if you honestly think F2p is not a demo. Jagex didn't make Free-to-play for people who can't afford members. They made it as an advertisment gimmick to get people wanting more of the game that isn't accessible to them without paying. Seriously. If you think otherwise, then you obviously know nothing about the business world. |2,300+ Total|138 Combat|12 Lvl 99 Skills|99 Slayer| Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
unkn0wnwarrior Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I support, but you're a MORON if you honestly think F2p is not a demo. Jagex didn't make Free-to-play for people who can't afford members. They made it as an advertisment gimmick to get people wanting more of the game that isn't accessible to them without paying. Seriously. If you think otherwise, then you obviously know nothing about the business world.Actually, F2P was out long before P2P suggesting they had no idea they would ever be creating a P2P version. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. V. Devnull Posted October 1, 2007 Share Posted October 1, 2007 I support, but you're a MORON if you honestly think F2p is not a demo. Jagex didn't make Free-to-play for people who can't afford members. They made it as an advertisment gimmick to get people wanting more of the game that isn't accessible to them without paying. Seriously. If you think otherwise, then you obviously know nothing about the business world. Actually, F2P was out long before P2P suggesting they had no idea they would ever be creating a P2P version. Correct, unkn0wnwarrior. And again, as I have noted previously, Outsanity, Andrew Gower himself stated that P2P is the expansion to F2P. Also, as I have noted through tons of past research (including what Andrew Gower stated), F2P would have been properly self-contained, had it not been for the autoer/macroer/RWT(Real World Trader)/Gold-seller scum that perpetrates a lot of trouble in such a fine game as RuneScape. Now... <*Runs Outsanity through a cheese-grater*> ... Quit (as you would like to call everyone else) acting like a moron yourself. I've really had it with people that don't research before replying to me or people who actually have a nice reputation here. And BTW, the RSOF alone is not proper research, due to the dogmatic forum mod dogs. ~Mr. D. V. Devnull and normally with a cool mind.(Warning: This user can be VERY confusing to some people... And talks in 3rd person for the timebeing due to how insane they are... Sometimes even to themself.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ham100000001 Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I support! I also want an armour for people lv 95 magic that is as strong against range as rune, weighs like robes and has as much magic protection as black dhide, and has magic bonus slightly better than ahrims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. V. Devnull Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I also want an armour for people lv 95 magic that is as strong against range as rune, weighs like robes and has as much magic protection as black dhide, and has magic bonus slightly better than ahrims. Wrong thread for that kind of super-powerful item. I suggest you make one for it, as that kind of thing would end up being P2P. This is a thread for balancing out F2P combat triangle by boosting higher-leveled mages. Which, unbeknownst to a lot of 'Elitist P2P'ers, would only help them. ~Mr. Devnull and normally with a cool mind.(Warning: This user can be VERY confusing to some people... And talks in 3rd person for the timebeing due to how insane they are... Sometimes even to themself.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ckyowns Posted October 5, 2007 Share Posted October 5, 2007 I support but yea im p2p but i think you do need some good outfits that look stylish O Hai dere hans! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nintendomaster2024 Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 Sign me up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lord_ownage Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 add me to the supporter list, what a great idea! Could use a sig or avatar, PM me if intersted in making one. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xx_Flare_xX Posted October 10, 2007 Share Posted October 10, 2007 I support : it's only fair mage gets some nice things. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mugglle Posted October 17, 2007 Share Posted October 17, 2007 yes i realize you think im being rude but its the truth, you don tpay you dont get, if jagex makes you hate f2p so badly you want to get p2p they just did there job. f2p is suppose to make you want p2p. Your just being ignorant by wanting things you dont deserve. and about how you cant afford it, thats a lazy excuse. If you can afford a computer and pay a monthly bill for internet you can afford 5 dollars a month. And if by some reason you couldnt i could think of lots of things that could earn you 5 dollars a month even if you werent old enough for a real job... my parents let me be a member 2 months outs the year dude. i can afford it, but they dont really think the games that great(putting it lightly) and when i am a member, its a rush to get things done. so dont go dissing ftp. my stupid bank is half full of members stuff that i wasnt about to give away for cheep. thers more than a few K in members stuff that i have to keep.... just venting... :wall: about the mage update, i dont have time to read it all, but i support the idea that we need a new update badly. http://www.draynor.net/anim/apsitively.gif Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gotic23 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 look jagex is making f2p so you becom member its always gonan be like that f2p is crippled but theres enough things do members is even more reptative, just u get games and quests ok why do you guys wnat mage stuff its not worth it in f2p not enough monster with low mage def to rally do nayhting not worth pesterign jagex Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shivers21 Posted October 18, 2007 Share Posted October 18, 2007 nice blog! realy n ice, goold luck with that lol. Thanks for including me in the credits {DeviantART}{Last.Fm}{Join Sublime GFX, great community for artists!}Back to RuneScape, Again.Avatar by Brian The Great Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skully Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
iAnt Posted October 19, 2007 Share Posted October 19, 2007 Amen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. V. Devnull Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 Amen And do either of you want to say "Why do you think this idea is a failure?" ... If not, get out of this thread, or I will only consider your posts as spams. Komodoman360 does not need people spamming up his rather thoughtful thread. ~Mr. Devnull and normally with a cool mind.(Warning: This user can be VERY confusing to some people... And talks in 3rd person for the timebeing due to how insane they are... Sometimes even to themself.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blaah Posted October 21, 2007 Share Posted October 21, 2007 I hate how every time that someone makes a well-thought out and useful suggestion for F2P that it goes in a flame war. Basically EVERY PLAYER OF RUNESCAPE started out F2P (to clear it up, not saying "every" because I would get flamed for that from people who are too "special" to have EVER been F2P), and I wish that people could accept that it's okay to want to play the free version. IT'S JUST A GAME, AND EVERYONE IS ENTITLED TO THEIR OPINION!!! OT: I support =D> Well thought out, true... /FG/First thread post to when I joined the family.[hide=Insert rant here]blahblahblahLIFE[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mortz Posted October 23, 2007 Share Posted October 23, 2007 In discussing the "Higher spell" options, then i could alternately argue the release of yew bows and rune arrows. After all they P2P has special bows such as Crystal, Seercull, etc. And all melee weapons upto and including rune are released, so why not arrows upto and including rune? I agree there needs to be a greater range of mage armour however. Let alone the whole "black mage robes" is poorly developed with only a hat and some non-matching coloured "black robe" top. To create black mage you actually have to use priest gowns that beneift magic in no way.... The other thing to consider is the "balancing out of the game." Range as far as i'm aware doesn't have the damage capabilities of mage, but has better defensive qualities. Correct me if i'm wrong.... i don;t usually go out killing much these days or paying close attention when i do. A newer, f2p armour away from the "generic" wizard approach i think would be more suited if it were to be developed. Perhaps the release of mage boots into f2p could work as well, or the ability to trade them in f2p worlds. Furthermore another consideration is currently there is NOWHERE for f2p players to buy mage robes. You can occassionally buy them from a general store or sometime a hat from a mage shop, but thats it. The rest you have to kill for or buy off a player. I don't know i'm coming in at a late timing.... much fo this has probably already been discussed in the 30 pages that i'm not going to sit here and read every bit. Just have a breif thought line. You have well thought this out however and i can see ur side of things as well, after all i was once a f2p member. Hmmm..... tough call. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ductran1989 Posted October 25, 2007 Share Posted October 25, 2007 Hey I give you 100% of my support, I agree F2P need to get new armour. The only sad thing I could think of is that autoer might submit to be a member and then go buy blood for a ridiculous amount and then sell it to non member, thus messing up the game AGAIN....You do have my support, but maybe we should be focusing on getting rid of the bot. Some agree that bot keep the price low but in my belief I think that they are somewhat half messing up the game and half helping out real player. They need coins you need material, but when you want to go train on a certain skill they flood that area, yew tree for example. So yah maybe ADDED THE ALTAR IDEA (Make it that so that there are some quest requirement to get in) ( I doubt any bot would do quest, but they might and waste more time since I read that there are auto dragon killer etc...) so yes I would like JAGEX TO HELP OUT NON MEMBER ( EVEN THOUGH I AM A MEMBER MYSELF) Tran Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOfEsIoNaL Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I support it totally. It doesn't have to be so nice though. Just a normal blue hat, body, gloves, robe and boots will do. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
I4prez Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 I support. Oh Oh Oh! I have an idea! What if jAGeX made normal mage robes have a better bonus? Like 35 or something? http://forum.tip.it/topic/173173-engineer-skill-and-railroads/<<Click! I support! Click!.-- .... -.-- .- .-. . -.-- --- ..- .-. . .- -.. .. -. --. - .... .. ... ..--.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOfEsIoNaL Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 You mean the current mage equipments or in the full mage robes? FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. V. Devnull Posted October 30, 2007 Share Posted October 30, 2007 Okay, paste the discussion together... I support. Oh Oh Oh! I have an idea! What if jAGeX made normal mage robes have a better bonus? Like 35 or something? You mean the current mage equipments or in the full mage robes? ...And now to reply............. PrOfEsIoNaL, I4prez is talking about the current mage equipments. Sadly, what I4prez is thinking of is not a good idea at all. It would help the already severely overpowered lower-level mages and mage pures. I hope Komodoman360's idea goes through some time soon so that the higher level Mages in F2P get their proper respect and positional balance in the F2P Combat Triangle. Otherwise, P2P'ers and Jagex alike are not going to have the influx of players that they want, because people will be mentally repelled by the thought that something may be broken in P2P also. (Which sadly, may be possible, but I'm not gonna judge on that one.) ~Mr. Devnull and normally with a cool mind.(Warning: This user can be VERY confusing to some people... And talks in 3rd person for the timebeing due to how insane they are... Sometimes even to themself.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PrOfEsIoNaL Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Okay, paste the discussion together... I support. Oh Oh Oh! I have an idea! What if jAGeX made normal mage robes have a better bonus? Like 35 or something? You mean the current mage equipments or in the full mage robes? ...And now to reply............. PrOfEsIoNaL, I4prez is talking about the current mage equipments. Sadly, what I4prez is thinking of is not a good idea at all. It would help the already severely overpowered lower-level mages and mage pures. I hope Komodoman360's idea goes through some time soon so that the higher level Mages in F2P get their proper respect and positional balance in the F2P Combat Triangle. Otherwise, P2P'ers and Jagex alike are not going to have the influx of players that they want, because people will be mentally repelled by the thought that something may be broken in P2P also. (Which sadly, may be possible, but I'm not gonna judge on that one.) ~Mr. Devnull Since there are 2 colour of wizard robes, blue and black. Why not just make them into 2 sets and choose 1 to be a higher level? This should be simple enough for jagex to do. FTP player.Goal:85/90 smithing. 12,000,000/100,000,000 coins.Total hacked and scammed losses:1 billion coins +/- (Not in today's currency). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D. V. Devnull Posted October 31, 2007 Share Posted October 31, 2007 Okay, paste the discussion together... I support. Oh Oh Oh! I have an idea! What if jAGeX made normal mage robes have a better bonus? Like 35 or something? You mean the current mage equipments or in the full mage robes? ...And now to reply............. PrOfEsIoNaL, I4prez is talking about the current mage equipments. Sadly, what I4prez is thinking of is not a good idea at all. It would help the already severely overpowered lower-level mages and mage pures. I hope Komodoman360's idea goes through some time soon so that the higher level Mages in F2P get their proper respect and positional balance in the F2P Combat Triangle. Otherwise, P2P'ers and Jagex alike are not going to have the influx of players that they want, because people will be mentally repelled by the thought that something may be broken in P2P also. (Which sadly, may be possible, but I'm not gonna judge on that one.) ~Mr. Devnull Since there are 2 colour of wizard robes, blue and black. Why not just make them into 2 sets and choose 1 to be a higher level? This should be simple enough for jagex to do. It used to be that black ones were weaker than the blue ones. The black ones were raised to the level of the blue ones at some point, and probably due to style complaints. If anything, though, neither of the current robes should have their stats increased, and a new set should be created with a proper defense level requirement, just to prevent the style argument occuring again, as well as to avoid the whole "low combat level mage pures have been made into gods" thing. ~Mr. Devnull and normally with a cool mind.(Warning: This user can be VERY confusing to some people... And talks in 3rd person for the timebeing due to how insane they are... Sometimes even to themself.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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