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[Logdotzip]

Randox, on 29 August 2012 - 08:01 PM, said:

What I was hoping for, that wasn't here, was an awknowledgement that IVP are the ones that pushed them into this. I want it not so that everyone can rage at them, but because I want more reassurance that Jagex has a stick big enough to beat them off the selling xp and money directly tree (I'd much rather be stuck with the SoF roundabout method). I want something to guage how long we have, and how much control they still have. When this sort of thing isn't touched on I get nervous, because there is no reason to hide good news.

That said, I still think MMG is probably teh best person we could have running the game after Andrew and Paul, because he does seem to actually care. If he didn't care, the game would be in ruins already, so in this regard I do think his actions are speaking for him.


Seems to me if they put this on consoles they are going to have to implement their in game talking program after all, or else the consoles wont be able to talk (even quickchat would be a nightmare for them).

And I agree that you know things are bad when the CEO has to keep making these kinds of posts. Maybe we can get down to twice a year

If he or any Jagex employee values their job security, I doubt they'd speak out against the company that basically owns them.

[Jonanananas]

Miss Lioness, on 29 August 2012 - 08:19 PM, said:

Uhh.. can anyone explain this girl here what HTML5 is =d? In as simple as you could >.>. The best would probably in dutch =3

Okay I'm no real computer expert here, so I can't guarantee what I'll say is 100% correct, but in simple terms:

HTML is the language/one language used to code websites. Most "standard" at websites (as in those with just simple text and pictures etc.) will be HTML. For a while, for stuff like videos or games, you would have to use plugins(extra programs running in your browser) like Java or Flashplayer. With HTML5, the language has become better and now is capable of running videos (And as it seems, games too) without needing extra plugins.

[sees_all1]

Not sure what's taking them so long to move to other platforms. All bluray players, and most U.S. cable boxes have an MHP/OCAP stack in them, which means they run Java.

Technology is already there, they just need to utilize it...

[GregorDGrim]

At a time like this, I'm glad I'm still a noob when it comes to Runescape. Having played for just over a year, I haven't yet grown the thick, cynical outer shell that results in players calling "BS" each time an official Mod post is made. Getting rid of the majority of the bots would be excellent. The SoF and Solomon's Store are, frankly, annoying and out of context with the rest of the experience (especially the SoF), but I understand why they're part of the game. I'm still having a lot of fun playing, and when that stops, I'll move on to something else instead of strolling down the street sounding the death knell and wishing misfortune on the company.

[Hedgehog]

It'll take a lot more than this to earn back my trust.

[Tres]

alot promises but yet to see if anything will be done....

in past 1 year cpu requirements to run that game been increasing alot...i tested recently with core 2 duo 4300 with basic 3d card it was so sluggish even with min detail...year ago same machine ran smooth full details in full screen...it makes me think that if they increase viewing distance + add those new bot preventing things etc, i may have to upgrade my 1 year old pc

as we all know that jagex can change their mind about anything in very short time, i only believe when i see.
its odd how rs was doing well 11 full years without rwt updates + they was able to add new content with same or even better speed as now but in past 6 months we get spammed with all type rwt updates and this is probably just start as interval of those starting to get shorter and how desperately they try to make ppl stay members.
alot of recent developing been done to get that rwt stuff made...being member starting to feel soon as being f2p when i cannot anymore get most stuff without paying extra....being f2p is getting more like carbage with 1 spin daily mostly hitting member rewards while members get 4 spins.

[swedishboy5]

GregorDGrim, on 29 August 2012 - 08:55 PM, said:

At a time like this, I'm glad I'm still a noob when it comes to Runescape. Having played for just over a year, I haven't yet grown the thick, cynical outer shell that results in players calling "BS" each time an official Mod post is made. Getting rid of the majority of the bots would be excellent. The SoF and Solomon's Store are, frankly, annoying and out of context with the rest of the experience (especially the SoF), but I understand why they're part of the game. I'm still having a lot of fun playing, and when that stops, I'll move on to something else instead of strolling down the street sounding the death knell and wishing misfortune on the company.

Precisely my thoughts as well. If you're not happy with the game, then leave and let those who actually enjoy the game play it.

[Battosai]

If they actually stick to this then I have a lot of hope for the future of the game. Unfortunately due to the past year's track record I'll believe it when I see it.

[Octarine]

If the Account Guardian is any form of two-step verification then I'll be a very happy bunny The (perhaps difficult to trust) promises of their stance on microtransactions is just a nice plus

ALSO THAT DRAW DISTANCE Looks ver nice

[Zerker_Jane]

Next month : Hay guize you can now pay for a higher chance of getting XP lamps in the SOF

[Den]

Logdotzip, on 29 August 2012 - 05:50 PM, said:

Sounds like some clever PR wrapped around a pile of bullshit

My thoughts exactly.

Sylpheed, on 29 August 2012 - 06:49 PM, said:

There are so many people on this forum that just want to hate Jagex regardless of what happens.

I swear even if they were to remove the SoF and SGS tomorrow people would still be throwing nonsensical and presumptuous bullshit all over the place.

Oh, but this is where you are wrong about me. If this were to happen, the dark cloud that covers the Jagex I talked positive things about every week would fade.
I would once again be proud when saying "I play Runescape." Right now I can't help but say "I play Runescape, but the game is overrun with microtransactions. Not worth getting into really."

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The first part says we listen to your feedback but we don't care how much you hate SoF and SGS, they're staying.
The post then goes on to promise a lot of future content which by all means looks nice, but it's purpose there is to move attention away from their reply to the mass-microtransaction updates they've been doing.
I think it's a cheap way of revealing future content.

Oh, and I guess a lot of you haven't tried MapleStory. It has an anti-cheating program that runs in the background of your computer when you start the gameclient up. It's called "GameGuard". I'm certain that's how they are stopping the bots. IVP just shipped the GameGuard code to IVPex and they made a version of it for Runescape.

[Alg]

Den, on 29 August 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

Oh, and I guess a lot of you haven't tried MapleStory. It has an anti-cheating program that runs in the background of your computer when you start the gameclient up. It's called "GameGuard". I'm certain that's how they are stopping the bots. IVP just shipped the GameGuard code to IVPex and they made a version of it for Runescape.

How well does it work?

[Den]

Alg, on 29 August 2012 - 09:59 PM, said:

Den, on 29 August 2012 - 09:53 PM, said:

Oh, and I guess a lot of you haven't tried MapleStory. It has an anti-cheating program that runs in the background of your computer when you start the gameclient up. It's called "GameGuard". I'm certain that's how they are stopping the bots. IVP just shipped the GameGuard code to IVPex and they made a version of it for Runescape.

How well does it work?

I haven't played MapleStory in a while, so I can't speak for it's current state. It's far from "the ultimate downfall of all cheating" though. It's by no means perfect and stops all forms of cheating.
I do believe it will stop bots, but I don't know how long it will.

[Kimberly]

IVP didn't make GameGuard, or order it made. Maplestory also doesn't use GG anymore and hasn't for a while. They use HackShield now. I know that, and I haven't played Maplestory since the beta days. (Mark of the Beta baby, yeahhh)

GameGuard didn't do jack shit to prevent botting, I think is what Den's original point was for how effective the new botbreaking update would be. They're nowhere near as bad as they used to be in the current game.

[Quyneax]

It's nice to know there will be big security/anti-cheating updates soon. But you only need about three sentences to tell people that. The crap about microtransactions is basically saying: it's here to stay, be glad we don't RWT even more".

[aspeeder]

What I'm intrigued about is

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Over the past 18 months, we have ploughed the majority of our revenue back into the game to guarantee its future over the decade to come. We have literally doubled the size of the RuneScape team, and we are making massive investments in technology and improved support.

Unless MMG is flat-out lying this seems a farily bullshit-free statement showing that they are putting resources into the game to make sure that it has more long-term viability than a lot of us have assumed.  I'd like to know where exactly these new people have been put (I'm sure a lot of them have been doing all the new cosmetics and emotes for SGS and SoF) but more people does hopefully mean more content.

[decebal]

I'm not surprised Jagex is trying to skirt around microtransactions. The reason why they won't sell gold is because of "the long-term health of the game" isn't just driven by their values, but also by their failed ventures. Without Runescape, Jagex would be nothing in the gaming industry, barely a speck in the ocean of Internet companies. They will lose their current fan base (as they have lost their respect already) and lose the company entirely. That's the only thing that is preventing IVP from pushing for gold selling in-game; they need to protect their asset.

The bot nuke sounds promising, although we won't know just how powerful it is until a year after it's deployed.

JGA is something that is sorely needed right now, it is just too easy to hack into an RS account these days with everyone spewing personal information over the internet. As long as they create an Authenticator app (little job for the Future Tech Team!), I'll be happy.

Speaking of Future Tech, I find it funny how they're not even mentioning their failed venture into mobile gaming with Funorb. Still, I can see this succeed if they're willing to invest the resources into mobile devices, which is unlike the "playground" that was Funorb. I am less hopeful in their research into console gaming. The greatest advantage RS has, its low system requirements, is nullified when you port it over to a system where every single gaming rig is the same. Up the power, and it just isn't Jagex anymore.

[Ren]

Posts like that from Jagex get me a little hopeful and a lot more confident in the decisions they have, but they've not touched EoC in that post either. That makes me a little.. displeased. Out of every update that's recent (and pretty dramatic), it should be more widely covered with Jagex posts, discussions, etc. Instead, they just ignore it (hugely, at this point..) and kind of act like it's something everyone in the world wants. Not aiming to turn this into an EoC debate, but I have to say I don't think anyone truly minded certain aspects of the game staying the way they are now compared to the EoC update that will more than likely come no matter what anyone thinks. How long it stays and how much Jagex cares about what we think, as a gaming community overall, is a different story. Opinions vary and all, but I really don't think they know how many players are not ready for this type of switch in gameplay.


It really bothers me that they didn't mention that at all. I couldn't give a crap about an account I might not play anymore.

[Kimberly]

decebal, on 29 August 2012 - 10:39 PM, said:

Speaking of Future Tech, I find it funny how they're not even mentioning their failed venture into mobile gaming with Funorb.

Why would the head of RuneScape talk about Funorb?

[Blutters]

It would be great to hear about all of these neat things they have planned if they weren't being presented with a vague and weightless concession.