Unknown_Warrior

117,522 if I recall correctly. I'm 100% sure of the 117,5##.

As you can see it is beaten overall by a fair few other plates. As you said 3rd Age is out for most, as are the PvP dropped armour. Bandos is affordable to most, especially if you can afford Dragon and the 3 Barrows plates are actually cheaper, even if you factor in the (low) repair costs. Still is the 3rd best non-degradeable armour, regardlessly. And consider using another file uploader. ImageShack is absolute crap.

I've seen people getting 250K-300K xp an hour (or even more) with Chinchompas using Void and Prayer. Not exactly a "marginal" difference.

Calling the Dragon Platebody crap isn't anywhere near true. It's still the third best non-degrading Armour in RuneScape. First being the Third Age Platebody, which isn't exactly accessable to all, and the second being Bandos Chestplate, which actually has less melee defence than its Dragon counterpart. The only reason people like it is because of the 'OMFG IT GIEVS +4 STR DAT [bleep]ING OWNZZZZZZZZ'-mentality of RS.

You can manage with War Tortoises. Hell, your stats are infinitely better than mine (disregard Defence, it means abo[bleep]ely nothing at Tormented Demons) and I do fairly well.

Seeing your 51 RC, that means you can do Great Orb Project. I'd really implore you to use it, with a 50/50 method. I think it's W22 for F2P, don't take my word for it though. Combine it with Elemental Gloves from FoG, if you'd like, and a Lumbridge Ring (2+, I believe?) is definitely good (dare I say: required). Craft only the Elemental runes, in order: Air/Water > Water/Air > Earth > Fire. Don't bother with Mind and Body runes. Water or Air depending on what gives you maximum profit. Use their corresponding gloves for double double xp (you already get 2x xp from any rune you craft within the game). Use the tokens you receive at the end of the game to buy Air or Water tablets. Again, depending on which gives you the most money. Use Lumbridge ring for quick banking (relatively) and more runes. Combine this with FoG gloves for more xp if you'd like. Best training method on F2P, I believe.

Multiple times Jagex mods have said they were going to see if they could redesign the Dragon Platebody. You'll have to take my word for it, though. I don't have hard evidence. The way they are now, I guess they'll remain in the 8M-10M range. It crashed 3 days after release.

I heard they only work for Allotments? Herbs are not protected. Or am I mistaken?

If you want Prot Melee and do the ones on the south island. Though high enough defence should allow simple tanking. Take Barrows if you do. You could always bring Karils + Prot Melee and Cannon on the north side of the island.

That'd make it overly dependant on other skills, wouldn't it? Remember that Magic Trees and Adamant Ore still have requirements. Though the concept of minigame-like reward system might sound plausible. Perhaps with a faster cut Magic Tree, or chocked full of Adamant rocks as bonus. Though I can still not see the good thing about that. A skill basing itself on granting matter for training harvesting skills. Not my cup of tea.

fletchings not useless i like it its a lot slower than cooking cooking is the easiest that and thieving because the xp is so fast (i have 99fletching btw) It's funny how you blurt out how "easy" those skills are. And, to be frank, Fletching IS useless. And has been since the release of Crystal Bow, Dark Bow (ooh, you can make Dragon Arrows! Useful!), GE and crossbows. Fletching and Smithing have been made virtually useless over the ages. And statistically, Fletching is apparently easy, as it's the third-most common cape. Just behind Cooking.

You can see it as viable? I can't. Seriously. First of all, what could it be used for? Modes of transport are redundant, as any town on RuneScape can be accessed with one or two instant teleportation methods. The only exceptions being Rimmington (disregarding Home Teleport) and Burgh de Rott/Meiyerditch. These are the only places you actually need to walk to. Second, exploration of what? New islands? I'm interested in what the content of those'll be? Sure, you could add new trees, but what would the logs be useful for? Firemaking? Fletching? Fletching would be really difficult, as Jagex certainly doesn't want to make Dark Bows redundant in favour of a mass producable bow, but that'll also instantly shoot down the interest. Mining? What to mine? What could the ore/rock be useful for? Smithing seems unlikely seeing it's already filled to the brim. Crafting is a maybe. High result gem rocks are unlikely, seeing as this island will be able to be visited continuously, so it'll devalue gems in the long-run. Fishing? Well, honestly, I can't complain about this one. There's always need for good healing items. Though I can see hundreds of people complaining if a new fish, easily fished, would beat out the hard-to-make Tuna Potatoes and the Trawler-only Manta Rays. Combat? Sea wars? You'd basically centre a skill around a minigame. Even if you didn't, Sailing won't do the fighting. Your cannons (Ranged), you (Melee) or whatever would. Thieving, Agility? lol. The ONLY possibilities I see are Farming patches and tropical Herbs for Herblore. -------------- Archaeology is equally bad. The concept is nice and all. However, from what I read, it doesn't offer anything even that'd even make it remotely interesting to train. Slow xp, barely any money and frustrating waiting periods due to being based on respawns like Mining and Hunter. -------------- Sorry, but I don't see potential for either of these. Summoning had a ring, it had potential. You could basically visualise what useful things those summoned beasts could do for you. I simply don't have that for Sailing/Archaeology.

Using the exact prices, for 1-99 Construction you'd need: If using Proto tools and a Normal Butler: 1-33: Dunno (shouldn't be that much, <100 000 coins) Larders 33-74: 8,984 Oak planks. You will spend 4,089,966 gold, of which 285,000 (rounded up) coins are for your Butler. You will use 22 Proto tools (aka: SC Hammers, in this case). Doors 74-99: 99,490 Oak planks. You will spend 45,292,823 gold, of which 3,110,000 (rounded up) coins are for your Butler. You will use 232 Proto tools. Grand total of 49,482,789 coins. The cheapest method, as far as I'm aware.

Couldn't resist to use all-abbreviations. Basically, what is the clan chat for fair-Great Orb Project, and what world? Thanks in advance.

Yes. And any pet released after Summoning (everything except cats) will continue to eat after they've grown to be adults. Minitrices are no exception (well, they don't have adult forms, but they will still require food). With hunger setting in every 30 (?) minutes, you really have to make a decision whether or not you're prepared to feed him.

If there's a 99 I want, it's Runecraft. I refuse to have any other 99 before it. Though I get distracted easily. Then again, I'm not really trying for 99s.

I'm not too sure on that Adamant Bar w/ Proto Tool bit. After all, the price difference between SC Addy Bolt smithing and Gold Smelting is virtually neglible. But the hammers take a looooong time to get.

High-end Telescopes for them Tubby hunters, perhaps?

CANE Just to be different. Think about it. A freaking Dragon Cane with a Dragonstone gem. The spec will simply your character equiping a glove and beachslapping the enemy, who will break down and do the Cry emote for 10 seconds straight.

Can anyone tell me the average time for an abyssal trip, Laws and otherwise?

Well Death Talismans are quite expensive and hard to get hold of. Could you tell me if similar xp is possible with a more frequent talisman? I'm looking at Law and Cosmic Talismans.

That's not what I'm asking after. :wall: Look, I have 80 runecrafting. I just want 82. So I'm looking for faster methods than Nat Graahking, Abyss Running and ZMI. All of which I've done before. A lot. I'm looking for alternative methods. I couldn't care less about the petty cash I make making some runes through abyss or otherwise. I just want XP now.

18k xp/hour? That's it? Well, anyway. I've heard two alternative ways of training RC in the past. Combination Lava Runes and making high-end Tiaras. I honestly wouldn't know the Xp/Hour and xp/gp of those. And I'm fairly interested.

Let's not forget what drops this, eh. Tormented Demons, lvl 450, 350+ Hp creatures in a multicombat area. And it's a rare drop. With the crash, why should people kill them anymore? If they could just GWD? Better drops, more money, less requirements. Unless people CoinShare duo/trio TDs from now on (which I know some will), no one'll bother killing them anymore. Same as been happening to certain GWD bosses (and consequently, the armour they drop is rising).

How much Xp/hour?