The New Regen brace

[TheAncient]

Disclaimer to mods: Sorry if this belongs in the update post, but again I insist this is a separate topic worthy of its own discussion.

 

 

 

With the Defender of Varrock Update, the Regen brace was updated to have what it's always needed to become a viable item -- combat stats. Its new combat stats are roughly those of a combat brace. Compared to Barrows gloves, the Regen brace is ~4 points less accurate, ~6 points less defense, and ~5 points less strength. However, it heals an extra 1 hp per minute.

 

 

 

So, here's the first point to bring up: Will plain Regen brace (without the following combinations)'s 1 hp restore per minute offset the combat stats loss?

 

 

 

I would argue no; you are probably going to be getting hit more damage by the -6 loss in defense than you are gaining with the 1 hp per minute.

 

 

 

However, an interesting thing to note is that Regen brace stacks with hp restore prayer. That means if you use both the hp restore prayer and the regen brace you get 4 hp per minute. I've personally tested this; it heals 2 hp every 30 seconds.

 

 

 

4 Hp per minute -- that is significant. Over an hour, that means you've added basically 4 * 60 = 240 HP healing, or 12 sharks. Essentially half the power of a Bunyip, or comparable to the minimum healing of an SGS, and both are far more expensive.

 

 

 

Speaking of SGS, this regen + restore prayer combo needs some way of restoring a bit of prayer every minute, since HP restore prayer uses up 2-3.33 prayer points per minute. SGS is perfect for this, since its average prayer healing rate is ~3.5 / minute. Using all 3, SGS, regen, and restore prayer, you can heal about 10 HP a minute. Add Bunyip into this mix and you've got 18 HP per minute. Unicorn, and youve got 31 HP a minute.

 

 

(And yes, I've calculated SGS heal rate to be 6-7 HP / minute depending if you have prayer or not. You take the integral of y = x except if x <= 20 , y is constant at y = 20. Then you do average value theorem to find the average, and divide by 2 to get HP restore and 4 to get prayer restore)

 

 

 

Discuss :)

[@Dan3HitU]

It's not that bad, I'd prefer higher boosted stats, something higher than Barrow Gloves but that's wishful thinking.

 

 

 

I guess the extra 1hp a minute will add up if you have Bunyip I suppose, other than that, it's a pretty pointless tweak-update.

[Blackspells]

cool

[Seogege]

38 HP per minute? :shock:

 

 

 

Think of what you could achieve with that stacked up with Guthans. Although it is random, I could see something more than 40 HP per minute. That's amazing. Although the price of having everything negates the usefullness, its still a crazy find.

[CampbellMC]

Im already trying to buy a regeneration bracelet as it is now the best buyable slot for gloves. I have not done any of RFD and the fact that the stats on this are +1 better than the combat bracelet, and you get to heal a little bit (it all counts) makes it worth it.

 

 

 

Btw just a heads up, unicorn is 21 hp per minute on average (1.5 specs per minute). So your healing method + unicorn is 31 per minute, not 38.

[Inuashakent]

Im already trying to buy a regeneration bracelet as it is now the best buyable slot for gloves. I have not done any of RFD and the fact that the stats on this are +1 better than the combat bracelet, and you get to heal a little bit (it all counts) makes it worth it.

 

 

 

Btw just a heads up, unicorn is 21 hp per minute on average (1.5 specs per minute). So your healing method + unicorn is 31 per minute, not 38.

 

He speaks the truth. 3 specials per 2 minutes, healing 14 each.

 

 

 

I would personally say only use this without dragon/barrow gloves.

[Kimberly]

Does the Regen Bracelet stack with the Bunyip's healing special? Or is it even a suitable replacement?

[Soma2035]

With the Defender of Varrock Update, the Regen brace was updated to have what it's always needed to become a viable item -- combat stats. Its new combat stats are roughly those of a combat brace. It's ~4 points less accurate, ~6 points less defense, and ~5 points less strength. However, it heals an extra 1 hp per minute.

 

 

 

Combat Bracelet

 

+7 / +7 / +7 / +3 / +7

 

+5 / +5 / +5 / +3 / +5 / +5

 

+6 / +0

 

 

 

Regeneration Bracelet

 

+8 / +8 / +8 / +3 / +7

 

+6 / +6 / +6 / +3 / +6 / +5

 

+7 / +0

 

 

 

Unless you're comparing to to Barrow Gloves, in which,

 

 

 

a) You probably should mention it, since the way you wrote it, you make it sound weaker than the CB Bracelet,

 

 

 

B) Isn't necessarily the best comparison. Barrow Gloves requires a long series of quests, and I have friends with combat levels over 120 who haven't obtained them, simply because they hate quests. Plenty of people don't want to finish RFD, or can't for whatever reason.

[qeltar]

Pretty sure it would stack with the Bunyip since the bracelet affects your normal regeneration.

 

 

 

Took them long enough to improve this item, it should have been done within the first month, as it was obvious people didn't think much of it.

[totalpwnage]

Its new combat stats are roughly those of a combat brace. It's ~4 points less accurate, ~6 points less defense, and ~5 points less strength. However, it heals an extra 1 hp per minute.

 

 

 

 

 

You went from a comparision of regen brace and combat brace to regen brace and barrows gloves... Just thought I'd point that out before theres any confusion. :P

 

 

 

This is definately becoming highly bought soon. These gloves are the best for any pure 1-36 defence (36 defense is the lowest you can get rune gloves). And trust me, there are thousands of pures that have the money for the bracelet.

 

 

 

Not only that, but as someone mentioned, they are the best buyable gloves now. More people that have not done/completed RFD will buy these gloves. And not to mention, with the small HP restore boost, these could be very popular.

 

 

 

However, I wish they had increased the HP rate to be an equivalent of a void spinner. That would have made it a very oftenly used item in things like God Wars and Dagannoth Kings, because using that combined with a bunyip/unicorn would make it very hard to beat, probably eliminating needs for guthans at DK's.

 

 

 

But I guess it wasn't necessary. The bracelets will definitely be used a lot in normal training by thousands of people, from pures to mains that haven't done RFD. I don't see them as a good replacement for barrows gloves, though, so they aren't the best, but they're good enough to make a pretty big difference.

 

 

 

But I must say: GF to whoever used the bracelets as junk :P

[pulli23]

Its new combat stats are roughly those of a combat brace. It's ~4 points less accurate, ~6 points less defense, and ~5 points less strength. However, it heals an extra 1 hp per minute.

 

 

 

 

 

You went from a comparision of regen brace and combat brace to regen brace and barrows gloves... Just thought I'd point that out before theres any confusion. :P

 

 

 

This is definately becoming highly bought soon. These gloves are the best for any pure 1-36 defence (36 defense is the lowest you can get rune gloves). And trust me, there are thousands of pures that have the money for the bracelet.

 

 

 

Not only that, but as someone mentioned, they are the best buyable gloves now. More people that have not done/completed RFD will buy these gloves. And not to mention, with the small HP restore boost, these could be very popular.

 

 

 

However, I wish they had increased the HP rate to be an equivalent of a void spinner. That would have made it a very oftenly used item in things like God Wars and Dagannoth Kings, because using that combined with a bunyip/unicorn would make it very hard to beat, probably eliminating needs for guthans at DK's.

 

 

 

But I guess it wasn't necessary. The bracelets will definitely be used a lot in normal training by thousands of people, from pures to mains that haven't done RFD. I don't see them as a good replacement for barrows gloves, though, so they aren't the best, but they're good enough to make a pretty big difference.

 

 

 

But I must say: GF to whoever used the bracelets as junk :P

 

 

 

Really how many people don't have rfd nowadays? - It's really easy to get it, requires a month 2 hours a day (around 50-60 hours) if you have the stats for all quests already to do all quests!

 

 

 

So I'm wondering how they compare to barrow gloves: they might be better occasionally than barrow gloves. (at points where bunyips just don't heal enough, yet you still want to camp).

 

 

 

However I still think 1M (the price they have now) is too high, barrow gloves being 100k - and combat bracelets being only 30k. A price like 500k would be the max really!

[totalpwnage]

You forget that its not THAT oftenly dropped at Corp Beast, and rarely does anyone make them out of onyx.

 

 

 

How many people have dragon gloves or barrows gloves? Not many at all. Most of the people that do are higher levels. From levels 3-100 there are a LOT of people with at most, rune gloves. Its definitely is a majority over the amount with dragon gloves and barrows gloves. Heck, you'll see a lot of people that have combat braces, or even using leather/canafis gloves.

 

 

 

I think your right, they will continue to lower. The amount of regeneration bracelets is high enough, but 500k does sound like the most reasonable price for it. I'm pretty sure though that a LOT of pures are probably buying these right now. Many mains will buy these too, but probably not until they fall a bit in price. If they're still 1m like I think they are, then yeah they'er gonna drop till they hit about 500k then more mains will buy them. I mean, thats almost a whip at 1m.

 

 

 

But trust me, not that many people have barrows gloves, and I'm sure that a lot of people will be using this.

[jessy87]

interesting update honestly, pures get a useful bracelet VERY useful

[Slayer_Jesse]

personaly, the cb brace is better for slayer... but i can se people using regen.

 

 

 

(for ppl who haven't done rfd.)

 

 

 

But how to these braces compare to FoG gauntlets?

[Myweponsg00d]

Im already trying to buy a regeneration bracelet as it is now the best buyable slot for gloves. I have not done any of RFD and the fact that the stats on this are +1 better than the combat bracelet, and you get to heal a little bit (it all counts) makes it worth it.

 

 

 

Btw just a heads up, unicorn is 21 hp per minute on average (1.5 specs per minute). So your healing method + unicorn is 31 per minute, not 38.

 

 

 

I really don't understand how a character like yours doesn't have RFD done...

[Soma2035]

Im already trying to buy a regeneration bracelet as it is now the best buyable slot for gloves. I have not done any of RFD and the fact that the stats on this are +1 better than the combat bracelet, and you get to heal a little bit (it all counts) makes it worth it.

 

 

 

Btw just a heads up, unicorn is 21 hp per minute on average (1.5 specs per minute). So your healing method + unicorn is 31 per minute, not 38.

 

 

 

I really don't understand how a character like yours doesn't have RFD done...

 

 

 

One of my friends is over 125 combat, has multiple party hats and third age items and such, many high leveled skills, and doesn't have RFD done. In fact, he doesn't even have the quests done for Piety.

 

 

 

Some people hate Runescape's quests. I find them ridiculously dull and cliche, and I only put up with them for the various rewards that are more fun. Of all the quests in Runescape, I really only enjoyed one or two. Quests like Desert Treasure for example, where Jagex gave up trying to use "epic stories" and simply crafted interesting dungeons and boss fights.

[zotto]

I'm level 126, and only have rune gloves. I have no interest in finishing RFD. I don't want to do desert treasure for instance. Maybe if I have way too much time one day.

 

 

 

I don't particularly enjoy doing quests.

[muggiwhplar]

Even with its new stats, I still only consider it useful for things like Fight Caves or training agility... its uses really are pretty limited

[ladycai]

Seems like the best glove-slot weapons for the non-quest'ers ..

[Triquos]

This doesn't change anything for me. I'll still only use it in brimhaven agility arena where it should be used. Also this is great for lower levels. Bout time it got some stats :thumbsup:

[deathcoil6]

i have a bid out one one right now :P

 

hope its worth it

[toast647]

I really don't understand how a character like yours doesn't have RFD done...

 

 

 

Some people don't enjoy quests? I have addy gloves at 134 combat

[CampbellMC]

I really don't understand how a character like yours doesn't have RFD done...

 

 

 

Some people don't enjoy quests? I have addy gloves at 134 combat

 

 

 

I did slayer for all my maxxed combats, so I had a good enough boost. Not to mention I piety every task. Was good enough for me to get 99 slayer.

[Ixindor]

Even with its new stats, I still only consider it useful for things like Fight Caves or training agility... its uses really are pretty limited

 

 

 

I'm going to have to agree with this statement. I'm still struggling to find a reason to pay 1M for an item that is very limited. If we could wear both a Braclet, to replace the default character gauntlets with no stats, AND a set of combat gloves...things would be just peachy. However, we don't have that option. I have the Dark Gloves and use them on a regular basis. Cheap and effective.

 

 

 

I started looking into training agility with them and yes they are practical for some courses. But my personal favorite, the Brimhaven Course, is out of the question, when Karamja Gloves 3 provide a better EXP boost per ticket. I haven't been back to the Brim Course in a long time, and I am assuming that you only have to wear the gloves when you cash in your tickets. If that is the case, then yes, the Regen Bracelet would be just fine there. But 1M price take is fairly high, and again, I just don't see it as a practical object to own.

 

 

 

You know, I've been finding alot of things in this game that just aren't practical. :lol:

[cat666]

Yeah it's a nice update. I will stick to my Barrows gloves though.

 

 

 

What some people seem to fail to understand is not everyone is the same level and enjoys the same things. Jagex cannot just cater for one group of people. If it was all high level items the lower levels would moan and vice-versa. High levels have had Corp Beast and the new shields this month so why not a new item for mid-level players.

 

 

 

EDIT - By new I obviously new stats, not a new item :D