Are 5%/10% Prayers Overlooked?

[TheAncient]

Are 5% Prayers (or even 10% prayers) -- Strength and Range prayers -- overlooked for basic training (low leveled monsters)?

 

 

 

5% Prayer analysis

 

With a reasonable prayer bonus (~15) the drain rate for each of the 5% prayers is approximately 3.33 points per minute. (Without any prayer bonuses it is around 5 points per minute. That means in an hour, you will spend ~200 prayer points. Assuming your base prayer level is 60, that means you will have to spend ~140 extra prayer points, or 1.5 prayer potions (4)). This amounts to 2 inventory spaces and about 10K in costs.

 

 

 

Assuming 99 Strength and 120 Strength bonus (whip), the 5% prayer allots you 2 extra points of damage on your max hit (37 --> 39). This is approximately 5% more damage, so you train roughly 5% faster.

 

 

 

Assuming you can make 500K an hour, it takes you a bit more than 1 minute to make up the costs of the prayer potions. However, you save approximately 5% of your time, or 3 minutes.

 

 

 

So with these assumptions 5% prayers are economical to use.

 

 

 

10% Prayer analysis

 

With a reasonable prayer bonus (~15) the drain rate for each of the 10% prayers is approximately 6.67 points per minute. (Without any prayer bonuses it is around 10 points per minute. That means in an hour, you will spend ~400 prayer points. Assuming your base prayer level is 60, that means you will have to spend ~340 extra prayer points, or 3.5 prayer potions (4)). This amounts to 4 inventory spaces and about 25K in costs.

 

 

 

Assuming 99 Strength and 120 Strength bonus (whip), the 10% prayer allots you <4 extra points of damage on your max hit (37 --> ~41). This is approximately 10% more damage, so you train roughly 10% faster.

 

 

 

Assuming you can make 500K an hour, it takes you a bit more than 3 minutes to make up the costs of the prayer potions. However, you save approximately 10% of your time, or 6 minutes.

 

 

 

So with these assumptions 10% prayers are also economical to use.

 

 

 

Discuss

[psvstef]

i think youre right,but i always use piety ;)

[The Observer]

Using 10% Prayer is useful for tanking in Clan Wars as it drains half as fast as the 15% Prayer does which means that you can actually last longer! * hint hint for the MSSW4

 

 

 

They're actually more useful in F2P than P2P. ;)

[toast647]

I use the 5% and 10% at sara sometimes. Might start slaying with 10% strength now though

[ladycai]

i think youre right,but i always use piety ;)

 

 

 

same here

 

 

 

Less clicking wins!

[deathcoil6]

yup prayer bonusses are very important for almost everyone when killing stuff over lvl 100-200

 

pray pots are quite expensive so pray bonus is profitable in these hard times :P

[Dharockslayer]

Using 10% Prayer is useful for tanking in Clan Wars as it drains half as fast as the 15% Prayer does which means that you can actually last longer! * hint hint for the MSSW4

 

 

 

*hinthint* You are wearing steel armour, no prayer will help you getting ripped to shreds by the scimitars being flung, better use the 15% prayer *hinthint*

 

 

 

And yes, I often used 5% prayers in deathmatches in f2p.

[D Jay99]

I usually flash piety while on slayer tasks. I've never really used the 10% prayer, but I might start doing it if it's that much better.

[Obtaurian]

I think most hardcore slayers use either the 10% prayer, or piety. I've known about this for quite some time, but this topic will be pretty helpful for others. =D>

[xpx]

Umm, just did a test myself- with 15 prayer bonus(which you suggested to be reasonable) my 99 prayer points were all drained with only piety prayer activated in 3 minutes and 50 seconds. Assuming that using piety saves 23% of your time, it would be useful to use it if you make more than 428k an hour.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and your calculations(and mine for that matter) are completely meaningless(it would be stupid to explain why, but anyone with half a brain would figure out why).

[Ezz]

I never thought of that, good thinking.

[Dire_Wolf]

That's good thinking: but to me +2 damage or +4 really does not matter so much.

 

 

 

Most monsters have low hp and i kill them easily with 20-40 hits :D

 

 

 

As for bosses: i use Piety.

[Morino]

Umm, just did a test myself- with 15 prayer bonus(which you suggested to be reasonable) my 99 prayer points were all drained with only piety prayer activated in 3 minutes and 50 seconds. Assuming that using piety saves 23% of your time, it would be useful to use it if you make more than 428k an hour.

 

 

 

 

 

Oh, and your calculations(and mine for that matter) are completely meaningless(it would be stupid to explain why, but anyone with half a brain would figure out why).

 

if you or anybody knows how quickly piety drains prayer off the top of your head for ~15 prayer bonus that would be awesome

[AndyPandy]

I find them useful, whatever I'm doing, that little extra max hit, or that little extra accuracy (if I'm using the attack prayers). Even the defence prayers are very helpful.

[Triquos]

I use the 5 and 10% ones at mith drags if i'm wasting p pots using piety and noticing i'm getting nowhere lol. But usually I use piety instead if I have more p pots and less antifires on metal drag tasks and know i'm going to run out anyway.

[mervinator_9]

Wow, that is probably the most economical analysis I've ever seen, serouisly are you an accountant or something?

 

 

 

Ot: Ive never looked at it like that but it makes sense to start using it, :thumbsup:

[highlanders]

A lot of trouble for only 5%. I reckon those inv spots could be better used with potions, which are great value for money.

[BBC3]

math is messed up, 2 more to your max hit does not mean you train 5% faster.

 

maybe accuracy might affect how fast you train, but not by much at all.

 

 

 

edit: xpx has it figured out before me.

[legilgalad2]

Very interesting tip. Will start to use them more from now on!

[Mecakoto]

If you are good at prayer flashing, you can go through 5 points just flashing Piety in an hour, if that.

 

 

 

Now, assuming that you are unable to do this, or your connection doesn't allow you to prayer flash, then this is a viable option. Other then that, they are overlooked for a reason.

[TheAncient]

math is messed up, 2 more to your max hit does not mean you train 5% faster.

 

maybe accuracy might affect how fast you train, but not by much at all.

 

 

 

edit: xpx has it figured out before me.

 

 

 

the xp you gain is basically directly proportional to the damage you deal.

 

So if you do 5% more damage you gain approximately 5% more xp.

 

Therefore you gain 5% more xp every hour.

 

 

 

It is safe to assume that:

 

1 - (100 / 105) ~= 5%

 

 

 

So a 5% increase in xp is roughly the same as a 5% increase in speed. Not exactly the same, but you can reasonably assume so.

[ddaanniiellh]

I normally use the 5% str prayer during slayer task. With an SGS I could normally neglect the need for any Ppots, and still have enough prayer in case a random shows up.

 

~Dan

[Numberkills]

I've been ranging tasks lately, and I use Full Void + the 10% (Hawk Eye) Range prayer.

 

 

 

It really speeds up my training.

[Cha0sx]

Zarfot did many calculations with this and found that the 10% strength prayer is a great choice for slaying. It does not have too high of a GP per hour requirement to be efficient either.

 

 

 

10% strength prayer drains at a good ratio to the others, that's why it's so good.

 

 

 

I personally do not use 10% all the time though, or when I cannon. I have too many things to concentrate on when I'm cannoning and getting multiple drops to pick up and to keep potting/dealing with prayer.

 

 

 

This post is from the viewpoint of a Slayer :P

[Inuashakent]

I'm surprised this isn't common knowledge.