Why do you think steroids are illegal in sporting events?

 

 

 

Because otherwise the 100m would look like an x-men movie. But in all seriousness, it can only really be pinned down to people not wanting to inject grim juice into their own bodies, and those that would, would have an advantage over those that didnt. [/my off topic-ness]

Why do you think steroids are illegal in sporting events?

 

 

 

Because otherwise the 100m would look like an x-men movie. But in all seriousness, it can only really be pinned down to people not wanting to inject grim juice into their own bodies, and those that would, would have an advantage other those that didnt. [/my off topic-ness]

 

 

 

Exactly, that's why Jagex has rules. After all, this is an online multiplayer game where competition is prevalent.

PS: And to answer your question, cheaters do effect other players. Let's say 10 people have 99 Slayer the fair way. It's an achievement only shared amongst 10 people. Then let's say 10 cheaters come along and get 99 Slayer the unfair way. Now there are 20 people with 99 Slayer and while they have the same achievement, half of them got it the right way and half of them got it the wrong way - which is unfair to the fair training players because 99 Slayer isn't as special anymore due to cheaters.

 

If someone is taking the game so seriously that someone who cheated having the same things they do is upsetting them, they need to reconsider how much they care about a game. If someone gets something they want the way the game is designed for it to be gotten, they will have the sense of achievement that someone who cheats will never have that feeling. Seriously, people need to stop being so worried about what other people are doing, and enjoy their own game.

 

 

 

And how would one know this person has cheated? I personally don't care how or when other people get their high skills, as long as I get mine (eventually...).

I think it's funny that they basically admitted that the majority of their CS just "auto" message/apply people, the amount of times they used "manually" was more than enough the entire year to read lol.

PS: And to answer your question, cheaters do effect other players. Let's say 10 people have 99 Slayer the fair way. It's an achievement only shared amongst 10 people. Then let's say 10 cheaters come along and get 99 Slayer the unfair way. Now there are 20 people with 99 Slayer and while they have the same achievement, half of them got it the right way and half of them got it the wrong way - which is unfair to the fair training players because 99 Slayer isn't as special anymore due to cheaters.

 

If someone is taking the game so seriously that someone who cheated having the same things they do is upsetting them, they need to reconsider how much they care about a game. If someone gets something they want the way the game is designed for it to be gotten, they will have the sense of achievement that someone who cheats will never have that feeling. Seriously, people need to stop being so worried about what other people are doing, and enjoy their own game.

 

 

 

And how would one know this person has cheated? I personally don't care how or when other people get their high skills, as long as I get mine (eventually...).

 

Stat trackers. It is 100% impossible to legitimately gain 1.5M slayer xp in a day and it's even more impossible to gain 1.5M slayer xp in a day without also gaining 6M xp in your combat skills.

saux why does jagex ban all the good bugs -.-

This stinks! I was out all week and came back for my weekly penguins. It is bugged - saying "I already spotted that penguin" and I can't get any credit. I had done the penguins (fairly) last week, but can't get my 30k Runecraft Exp this week.

 

 

 

Weak!

PS: And to answer your question, cheaters do effect other players. Let's say 10 people have 99 Slayer the fair way. It's an achievement only shared amongst 10 people. Then let's say 10 cheaters come along and get 99 Slayer the unfair way. Now there are 20 people with 99 Slayer and while they have the same achievement, half of them got it the right way and half of them got it the wrong way - which is unfair to the fair training players because 99 Slayer isn't as special anymore due to cheaters.

 

If someone is taking the game so seriously that someone who cheated having the same things they do is upsetting them, they need to reconsider how much they care about a game. If someone gets something they want the way the game is designed for it to be gotten, they will have the sense of achievement that someone who cheats will never have that feeling. Seriously, people need to stop being so worried about what other people are doing, and enjoy their own game.

 

 

 

And how would one know this person has cheated? I personally don't care how or when other people get their high skills, as long as I get mine (eventually...).

 

Stat trackers. It is 100% impossible to legitimately gain 1.5M slayer xp in a day and it's even more impossible to gain 1.5M slayer xp in a day without also gaining 6M xp in your combat skills.

 

 

 

I'm pretty sure it's not impossible... slayer points aren't limited, are they? Therefore it's perfectly possible to have saved up enough slayer points for a massive xp boost in a single day.

you can only have 50 slayer points max...so it isn't possible...

you can only have 50 slayer points max...so it isn't possible...

 

Umm...

 

The ability to make the Slayer Helmet costs 400 points...

 

Slayer XP (10,000) costs 400 points...

 

1,500,000/10,000=150x400=60,000...

 

60k Slayer points is pretty near impossible...

Maybe this is why it won't let me do this week's Penguin Hunt... I was in the hospital from Monday-Friday and haven't been able to get on until now. When I logged in to do my weekly penguin points, it says that I've already spotted them...

Maybe this is why it won't let me do this week's Penguin Hunt... I was in the hospital from Monday-Friday and haven't been able to get on until now. When I logged in to do my weekly penguin points, it says that I've already spotted them...

 

 

 

So it's still glitched?

 

Jagex still delivers half work...

I'm pretty sure it's not impossible... slayer points aren't limited, are they? Therefore it's perfectly possible to have saved up enough slayer points for a massive xp boost in a single day.

 

 

 

That's 60,000 Slayer Points. The player would have to have nearly 60M Slayer Xp already to get a boost that big. No, not impossible, but I think that proves that in this case he/she did abuse the bug.

I'm pretty sure it's not impossible... slayer points aren't limited, are they? Therefore it's perfectly possible to have saved up enough slayer points for a massive xp boost in a single day.

 

 

 

That's 60,000 Slayer Points. The player would have to have nearly 60M Slayer Xp already to get a boost that big. No, not impossible, but I think that proves that in this case he/she did abuse the bug.

 

 

 

He's right. Anyone with 60k slayer points would have a huge amount of slayer xp. No one has enough for that.

What about the smart people who took the cash. How is jagex gonna find them.

Why do you think steroids are illegal in sporting events?

 

 

 

Besides what other people have said this is also because taking steroids can be a serious health risk.

Why do you think steroids are illegal in sporting events?

 

 

 

Besides what other people have said this is also because taking steroids can be a serious health risk.

 

 

 

Yes, but they specifically check in sporting events. They don't have routine steroid checks for every single person, even though it is a health risk to every single person.

Right... so it's up for you to say that other players shouldn't care about cheaters, but it's not up to Jagex to decide what they want or don't want in their own game...? I got news for you. The world doesn't revolve around you. All I said was that they deserve to be banned because they are ruining the game.

 

I'd love to know where you got that i'm saying Jagex aren't allowed to do what they want to from, seriously. :roll: All I said was that I can enjoy the game without having to worry about what every single other person is doing, because I just don't care.

I'm pretty sure it's not impossible... slayer points aren't limited, are they? Therefore it's perfectly possible to have saved up enough slayer points for a massive xp boost in a single day.

 

 

 

That's 60,000 Slayer Points. The player would have to have nearly 60M Slayer Xp already to get a boost that big. No, not impossible, but I think that proves that in this case he/she did abuse the bug.

 

 

 

He's right. Anyone with 60k slayer points would have a huge amount of slayer xp. No one has enough for that.

 

 

 

Correct, and who the [cabbage] with 60k slayer points would spend it on a measly 1.2m slayer xp. That's almost 429k death runes. (About 112m not including the mind runes). Obviously IF someone had that many points, they wouldn't be spending it on xp lol. So ya defiantly shows he/she abused the bug.

I think it's funny that they basically admitted that the majority of their CS just "auto" message/apply people, the amount of times they used "manually" was more than enough the entire year to read lol.

 

 

 

They posted that post on the RSOF, where there were at the time a lot of complaints about Jagex apparently having auto-banned a load of players, and how their auto-banning software must be buggy. In THAT context, they're just saying that they didn't auto-ban anyone.

 

So... all the incorrectly banned people were therefore manually banned on an individual basis by a real person. Well, that's probably true because if they were lying they'd pick a nicer story.

Right... so it's up for you to say that other players shouldn't care about cheaters, but it's not up to Jagex to decide what they want or don't want in their own game...? I got news for you. The world doesn't revolve around you. All I said was that they deserve to be banned because they are ruining the game.

 

I'd love to know where you got that i'm saying Jagex aren't allowed to do what they want to from, seriously. :roll: All I said was that I can enjoy the game without having to worry about what every single other person is doing, because I just don't care.

 

 

 

The loss of value in achievements for other players is the very reason that it's against the rules. When you are saying that there is no reason (the achievement value is not effected) then you are saying it should not be against the rules. You wouldn't have disagreed with my post if you did not believe that.

 

 

 

Oh man, people who roll their eyes online every 2 seconds. :roll:

Personally I feel that if they're gonna ban these players then they should fire the employees who caused the bug in the first place - teach them a lesson as well.

 

 

 

But in all seriousness...whether or not the players who used/abused it get banned should be of no concern to us whatsoever (unless you have a friend that got banned, then it's understandable for one to be like "oh no please don't ban my friend" or something). What they did has absolutely no affect on us in any way shape or form...in fact, prior to a half hour ago I didn't even know this had happened. Do I care of Red Jude get's banned for getting ~2m slayer xp from it? Nope, because I don't even know who Red Jude is, nor have I ever seen that player, nor do I care how much money that player has.

 

 

 

Just ask yourselves these questions...

 

- Do I care what the stats are of somebody I'll never interact with in this game?

 

- Do I care how much money a player has when I'll never interact with them in this game?

 

- Will a player I've never seen/heard of/interacted with in this game getting free xp/money affect me?

 

 

 

Simply put, if you answered "yes" to any of the above 3 questions, you probably should rethink some things.

 

 

 

Cheating**, whether it be in school or on a game, is an issue that only pertains to the cheating party and the 'authorities' involved (teachers/Jagex), nobody else.

 

 

 

To clarify - I'm not saying that the bug abusers shouldn't be banned, I'm saying that whether or not they are is no concern of ours.

 

 

 

**Obviously there are forms of cheating that can affect others, like the Falador pking incident. But even then, unless you or a friend of yours got killed, you weren't affected by it.

Stop the [bleep]ing at Jagex for the error, it happens to the best of them... http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7862840.stm

The REAL issue with RWT wasn't that players were choosing to buy money instead of getting it normally. It was that 1.) the bots were overcrowding resources which affected normal players and 2.) the bots overproduction of resources drove their prices down which affected normal players because it meant they had to compete with bots which were selling things for much less.

 

 

 

 

The REAL issue with RWT was all the credit card fraud baggage that came along with it.

 

Cheating**, whether it be in school or on a game, is an issue that only pertains to the cheating party and the 'authorities' involved (teachers/Jagex), nobody else.

 

 

 

So the people who lost thousands if not millions in the "falador massacre glitch" shouldn't be concerned about the bug at all? Yeah, I totally see where you're coming from! [/sarcasm]

 

 

 

Your argument might fly if this wasn't a community. But it IS a community. So it doesn't. The brutal facts is that bugs like this DO affect us, whether it's as mundane as being bumped off the high scores or severe as an ill-gotten lvl 99 now floods the market with surplus goods. Etc, etc. I'm not going to waste your time and mine by giving excruciatingly detailed examples in essay format.