Kilo Posted June 2, 2009 Share Posted June 2, 2009 no. Always forgive your enemies; nothing annoys them so much.Oscar Wilde Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plugpoint Posted June 4, 2009 Share Posted June 4, 2009 I do, I have no shame. If I like the band I'll go see them or buy merch or something. Better than wasting my money on a crap album. Maxed 15/06/13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
eias Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I do Why?because everyone here sells Pirated CDs anyway,so why bother? And why pay 20 dollars for an album if i only want one song?don't tell me apple store,i don't buy my things over the internet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da_Latios Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 Yep. Just downloaded limewire 5, its quite good as long as i remember to scan everything i download. Limewire? LIMEWIRE?! Are you [bleep]ing kidding me?! Torrenting is the first and best option. If all fails there, then try to get a friend to DCC send it to you. If that fails, then Frostwire is your very last resort. Torrenting full albums :thumbup: Limewire-ing individual songs :thumbdown: IRC Nick: Hiroki | 99 Agility | Max Quest Points | 138 CombatBandos drops: 20 Hilt | 22 Chestplate | 21 Tassets | 14 Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I do Why?because everyone here sells Pirated CDs anyway,so why bother? And why pay 20 dollars for an album if i only want one song?don't tell me apple store,i don't buy my things over the internet That image is a really stupid justification for piracy. Pirating a copy of a CD effectively removes the revenue that the band would have otherwise received if you bought it legally. It has essentially the same consequence as stealing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 I do Why?because everyone here sells Pirated CDs anyway,so why bother? And why pay 20 dollars for an album if i only want one song?don't tell me apple store,i don't buy my things over the internet That image is a really stupid justification for piracy. Pirating a copy of a CD effectively removes the revenue that the band would have otherwise received if you bought it legally. It has essentially the same consequence as stealing. As most people here have been saying though, they just want an individual song usually, and so probably wouldn't have bought the album anyway. I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirHartlar Posted June 5, 2009 Share Posted June 5, 2009 My main reason for not pirating/torrenting is being extremely paranoid of any consequences as it is illegal as far as I am aware. I don't mind buying my own CDs as I don't get them often anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 That image is a really stupid justification for piracy. Pirating a copy of a CD effectively removes the revenue that the band would have otherwise received if you bought it legally. It has essentially the same consequence as stealing. Except that in most cases the user wouldn't have bought the product anyways, effectively causing no harm at all. You can't remove revenue if you wouldn't have bought the item in the first place. :) And then one could go on to talk about the word of mouth advertisement that they would get from you telling others about the album/band. It's not all black and white. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warri0r45 Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 That image is a really stupid justification for piracy. Pirating a copy of a CD effectively removes the revenue that the band would have otherwise received if you bought it legally. It has essentially the same consequence as stealing. Except that in most cases the user wouldn't have bought the product anyways, effectively causing no harm at all. You can't remove revenue if you wouldn't have bought the item in the first place. :) And then one could go on to talk about the word of mouth advertisement that they would get from you telling others about the album/band. It's not all black and white. I did say if you bought it legally, but you're right, I can't fault your argument. My point was probably too simplistic. I would question your argument for more well known bands, though. If they're popular enough to be known and their music is freely avaliable either in store or on the internt (e.g. itunes or something like that), then the avaliability of illegal downloading probably puts a dent in sales. I've not done any hard research into that, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted June 7, 2009 Share Posted June 7, 2009 Yep. Just downloaded limewire 5, its quite good as long as i remember to scan everything i download. Limewire? LIMEWIRE?! Are you [bleep] kidding me?! Torrenting is the first and best option. If all fails there, then try to get a friend to DCC send it to you. If that fails, then Frostwire is your very last resort. Torrenting full albums :thumbup: Limewire-ing individual songs :thumbdown: I don't really want whole albums though, and alot of the bands i look to download are little known or known for one or two songs at most or are new, and its hard to find a decent torrent for them, but its easy to find the songs on limewire. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 8, 2009 Share Posted June 8, 2009 That image is a really stupid justification for piracy. Pirating a copy of a CD effectively removes the revenue that the band would have otherwise received if you bought it legally. It has essentially the same consequence as stealing. Except that in most cases the user wouldn't have bought the product anyways, effectively causing no harm at all. You can't remove revenue if you wouldn't have bought the item in the first place. :) And then one could go on to talk about the word of mouth advertisement that they would get from you telling others about the album/band. It's not all black and white. I did say if you bought it legally, but you're right, I can't fault your argument. My point was probably too simplistic. I would question your argument for more well known bands, though. If they're popular enough to be known and their music is freely avaliable either in store or on the internt (e.g. itunes or something like that), then the avaliability of illegal downloading probably puts a dent in sales. I've not done any hard research into that, though. There isn't any research I know of of piracy having a direct cause with lessened album sales, but there is research of it not harming music sales. [1][2]. :) I still stand by that bands should learn to deal with how music is obtained now and try and adapt. NIN and several others have made a successful jump to a more updated model of selling music. Of course places like the RIAA doesn't want this shift because they lose money out of this. Artists going as their own record labels is really the way forward IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawks Posted June 12, 2009 Share Posted June 12, 2009 Technically I do, because US copyright laws are screwed... if you copy a CD onto your computer/rip it to mp3s you're legally pirating music, even if you paid for it once. I do buy all my music, but I copy it onto my comp/mp3 player. Because it's dumb to pay more then once for something you already own. sig by Soa.....tip.it times.....art & mediadeviantart/flickr/last.fm/steam/twitter/tumblr/youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Wrote a speech on piracy, I have to actually give the speech sometime next week. I'm not sure if it's any good though, I wrote it in the middle of the night and haven't looked at it since, so who knows. [bleep] the law, they can eat my dick that's word to Pimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Runar Posted June 13, 2009 Share Posted June 13, 2009 Well, there are quite a few scenarios where piracy is actually a good thing. Guy A pirates 21st Century Breakdown. He gives a copy to Guy B. Guy B likes, buys the rest of Green Days's albums. Let's say each album is $10, then Green Day makes $30 instead of just $10. Also, people who download music illegally are more likely to pay for it (weird, isn't it?). :? The Runar's (OSRS) DIY blog - most viewed Blogscape blog ever! Contract? /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jjrox32 Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 I do, but if I like/respect the band enough after hearing the music I'll buy it to support them, like Velvet Revolver, GNR (their old stuff) and Aerosmith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shin Posted June 14, 2009 Share Posted June 14, 2009 People be jealous of my waffles and what.cd access. :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Da Pirates Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 People be jealous of my waffles and what.cd access. :D I'm not. Even well seeded torrents go slower than direct downloads. Unless you get 1 mb/s, those sites fail. BR BR BR? HUEHUEHEUEHUE Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
whocares Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 Of course not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nadril Posted June 15, 2009 Share Posted June 15, 2009 People be jealous of my waffles and what.cd access. :D I'm not. Even well seeded torrents go slower than direct downloads. Unless you get 1 mb/s, those sites fail. I get 1mb/s off of well seeded torrents. Learn to set up your software properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furah Posted June 16, 2009 Share Posted June 16, 2009 Yes, the only songs I have the CD for are ones others have bought me for my birthday. Steam | PM me for BBM PIN Nine naked men is a technological achievement. Quote of 2013. PCGamingWiki - Let's fix PC gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Has anyone who has pirated music and then afterwards lived a "life of good", did you then delete your pirated music? I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Furah Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 Has anyone who has pirated music and then afterwards lived a "life of good", did you then delete your pirated music? Nope, and glad I didn't. :3 Steam | PM me for BBM PIN Nine naked men is a technological achievement. Quote of 2013. PCGamingWiki - Let's fix PC gaming! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
indy500fan Posted June 17, 2009 Share Posted June 17, 2009 I pirate music, as well as a lot of other stuff. I justify it by buying stuff I really like. I know it isn't morally right, but looking at all the movie I have purchased blind just because I liked something else that particular director/writer/actor did that I had downloaded I don't feel bad about doing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Skull Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Has anyone who has pirated music and then afterwards lived a "life of good", did you then delete your pirated music? I delete it if it turns out to be crap, does that count? [bleep] the law, they can eat my dick that's word to Pimp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Latinoking Posted June 18, 2009 Share Posted June 18, 2009 Has anyone who has pirated music and then afterwards lived a "life of good", did you then delete your pirated music? I delete it if it turns out to be crap, does that count? I'd say no, you still "own" pirated stuff, which why I don't get why people who pirated suddenly pretend to be doing the "good" thing, when they still "own" said material from the past. I am Teh_King[My dA][My Last.FM][My Twitter] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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