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I'm cool with these new updates. More risk, higher costs needed to trick. I just wish there was a better reason for Spite. :)

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So all PVP/BH worlds after this update will be 1950 76kers, and 50 welfare pkers...

 

 

 

Really, what was the point? I get the 75k part to detter the 26kers, but really, i don't get the point of the whole no protect item thing. Ok the skulling is 'ok', but why having to risk everything? A pker would have already been risking enough to make it so they wouldn't be making massively unstable profits from killing legit, so why do this to them.

 

 

 

And now, we are going to have massivle inflation in rares and non-combat gear, as people will be selling up any combat gear ovr 20m, and buying skills/rares.

 

 

 

One of the first updates in ages i've almost 100% disagreed with.

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ah..ic..Mod mmg wanted to nuke pvp, not 26king.

 

 

 

so pvp worlds are now entirely for 76king...pvping is instead nuked

 

I don't even know what to say to this but, i have seen a decline in the drops from 26king from the start.

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Colossus110 and No 99 - Quittin' On A Prayer

 

Original lyrics from Bon Jovi - Livin' On A Prayer

 

 

 

Tommy used to pk the worlds

 

Claws lost on death

 

Hes down on his luck...its tough, so tough

 

Gina works to 26k all day

 

Working for her man, she brings home her pay

 

For love - for love

 

 

 

She says weve got to hold on to the items we've got

 

cause it doesnt make a difference

 

If they smite us or not

 

Weve got each other and thats a lot

 

For love - Give d scims a shot!

 

 

 

Chorus:

 

Whooah, the pjers are scared

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

Take my claws and we'll make it - I swear

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

 

 

Tommys got his six zaros in row

 

Now hes eating sharks away

 

To keep his hp from low- so tough, its tough

 

Gina dreams of running away

 

She just got frozen from mage

 

Tommy whispers baby its okay, someday

 

 

 

She says weve got to hold on to the items we've got

 

cause it doesnt make a difference

 

If they smite us or not

 

Weve got each other and thats a lot

 

For love - Give d scims a shot!

 

 

 

Whooah, the pjers are scared

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

Take my claws and we'll make it - I swear

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

 

 

Weve got to hold on ready or not

 

You live for the fight, not about what you've got

 

 

 

Whooah, the pjers are scared

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

Take my claws and well make it - I swear

 

Quittin on a prayer

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Go have some fun welfare pking guys, in a few days everyone is just going to be praying and teleporting at the first sign of trouble.

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Colossus110 and No 99 - Quittin' On A Prayer

 

Original lyrics from Bon Jovi - Livin' On A Prayer

 

 

 

Tommy used to pk the worlds

 

Claws lost on death

 

Hes down on his luck...its tough, so tough

 

Gina works to 26k all day

 

Working for her man, she brings home her pay

 

For love - for love

 

 

 

She says weve got to hold on to the items we've got

 

cause it doesnt make a difference

 

If they smite us or not

 

Weve got each other and thats a lot

 

For love - Give d scims a shot!

 

 

 

Chorus:

 

Whooah, the pjers are scared

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

Take my claws and we'll make it - I swear

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

 

 

Tommys got his six zaros in row

 

Now hes eating sharks away

 

To keep his hp from low- so tough, its tough

 

Gina dreams of running away

 

She just got frozen from mage

 

Tommy whispers baby its okay, someday

 

 

 

She says weve got to hold on to the items we've got

 

cause it doesnt make a difference

 

If they smite us or not

 

Weve got each other and thats a lot

 

For love - Give d scims a shot!

 

 

 

Whooah, the pjers are scared

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

Take my claws and we'll make it - I swear

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

 

 

Weve got to hold on ready or not

 

You live for the fight, not about what you've got

 

 

 

Whooah, the pjers are scared

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

Take my claws and well make it - I swear

 

Quittin on a prayer

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Then remove protect from Melee/Range/Mage prayers too.

 

 

 

I already risked 700k+ when I was pking with Whip and most of the time I didn't even pk close to that on each kill.

 

 

 

PvP has NEVER been about having to risk everything, people still risked things before this update so that's not going to change for those people.

 

 

 

It's pointless making people lose more and will draw people away from proper PvP and just leave rushers and 26kers to rule the worlds.

 

 

 

 

 

The difference now is that you risk more with a whip, but you have less worry about 1-itemers with D claws and AGS, and you're bound to get legit kills with potentially good drops since the noobs who are earning EPs with one item worth 76k or more, or even coins, are bound to lose them. I would say that you have even lesser chance of losing your whip than before.

 

 

 

The people who rushed before with AGS/Claws etc. kept Protect Melee at all times making them unkillable, this has not changed.

 

 

 

 

 

If you can't PK any player using protect prayers, then what kind of PKer have you been? Always having honorable, no food no pray fight?

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Colossus110 and No 99 - Quittin' On A Prayer

 

Original lyrics from Bon Jovi - Livin' On A Prayer

 

 

 

Tommy used to pk the worlds

 

Claws lost on death

 

Hes down on his luck...its tough, so tough

 

Gina works to 26k all day

 

Working for her man, she brings home her pay

 

For love - for love

 

 

 

She says weve got to hold on to the items we've got

 

cause it doesnt make a difference

 

If they smite us or not

 

Weve got each other and thats a lot

 

For love - Give d scims a shot!

 

 

 

Chorus:

 

Whooah, the pjers are scared

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

Take my claws and we'll make it - I swear

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

 

 

Tommys got his six zaros in row

 

Now hes eating sharks away

 

To keep his hp from low- so tough, its tough

 

Gina dreams of running away

 

She just got frozen from mage

 

Tommy whispers baby its okay, someday

 

 

 

She says weve got to hold on to the items we've got

 

cause it doesnt make a difference

 

If they smite us or not

 

Weve got each other and thats a lot

 

For love - Give d scims a shot!

 

 

 

Whooah, the pjers are scared

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

Take my claws and we'll make it - I swear

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

 

 

Weve got to hold on ready or not

 

You live for the fight, not about what you've got

 

 

 

Whooah, the pjers are scared

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

Take my claws and well make it - I swear

 

Quittin on a prayer

 

 

 

 

 

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Then remove protect from Melee/Range/Mage prayers too.

 

 

 

I already risked 700k+ when I was pking with Whip and most of the time I didn't even pk close to that on each kill.

 

 

 

PvP has NEVER been about having to risk everything, people still risked things before this update so that's not going to change for those people.

 

 

 

It's pointless making people lose more and will draw people away from proper PvP and just leave rushers and 26kers to rule the worlds.

 

 

 

 

 

The difference now is that you risk more with a whip, but you have less worry about 1-itemers with D claws and AGS, and you're bound to get legit kills with potentially good drops since the noobs who are earning EPs with one item worth 76k or more, or even coins, are bound to lose them. I would say that you have even lesser chance of losing your whip than before.

 

 

 

The people who rushed before with AGS/Claws etc. kept Protect Melee at all times making them unkillable, this has not changed.

 

 

 

 

 

If you can't PK any player using protect prayers, then what kind of PKer have you been? Always having honorable, no food no pray fight?

 

 

 

If I'm pking with Melee I can't kill people who use protect melee, if I then bring a bow I won't be able to hit them with range and I'll lose food, so I'd have to bring dragonhide which would lose me even more food and make them much more likely to kill me.

 

 

 

If I'm in the middle of fighting someone and someone else runs in and specials me when I'm already low health, how is it fair that I should lose a whip? I can't do anything to stop them doing that unless I use protect melee the whole fight.

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I don't pvp at all, but this seems liek a horrible idea...noone will ever use anything decent now, and gaining potential and using brawlers will be extremely difficult now...since you will lose your brawlers, and those can't exactly be rebought....

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why is bandos armor being affected by this? :wall:

 

 

 

Max Str gear to rush people.

 

 

 

Tbh I think people with faith in their ability to pk will do well theres a 70%ish chance that you will recieve what your opponent loses so if someone does think I can pk, I'll go with claws, free 20M or so when they finally crash and settle.

 

 

 

My concern is still bolters but tbh if they made splashers attackable then pvp would be near enough flawless now

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why is bandos armor being affected by this? :wall:

 

wahhh is it dropping or rising??

 

 

 

 

 

dropping. people are offering claws for them rofl.

 

 

 

and it won't sell at lowest.

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Then remove protect from Melee/Range/Mage prayers too.

 

 

 

I already risked 700k+ when I was pking with Whip and most of the time I didn't even pk close to that on each kill.

 

 

 

PvP has NEVER been about having to risk everything, people still risked things before this update so that's not going to change for those people.

 

 

 

It's pointless making people lose more and will draw people away from proper PvP and just leave rushers and 26kers to rule the worlds.

 

 

 

 

 

The difference now is that you risk more with a whip, but you have less worry about 1-itemers with D claws and AGS, and you're bound to get legit kills with potentially good drops since the noobs who are earning EPs with one item worth 76k or more, or even coins, are bound to lose them. I would say that you have even lesser chance of losing your whip than before.

 

 

 

The people who rushed before with AGS/Claws etc. kept Protect Melee at all times making them unkillable, this has not changed.

 

 

 

 

 

If you can't PK any player using protect prayers, then what kind of PKer have you been? Always having honorable, no food no pray fight?

 

 

 

If I'm pking with Melee I can't kill people who use protect melee, if I then bring a bow I won't be able to hit them with range and I'll lose food, so I'd have to bring dragonhide which would lose me even more food and make them much more likely to kill me.

 

 

 

If I'm in the middle of fighting someone and someone else runs in and specials me when I'm already low health, how is it fair that I should lose a whip? I can't do anything to stop them doing that unless I use protect melee the whole fight.

 

 

 

I'll at least give credits to these new-age PJers who at least have the guts to go out with a D claw or AGS knowing full well that they'll lose them 100% on death. Moreover, why would they pick on you, someone in full gear, compared to all the sitting ducks gaining EPs in hotspots with no way to retaliate, now that they always lose enough for a potential drop?

 

 

 

 

 

A great improvement from the risk-free PJing of the past. Hmm, the past seems like only a few hours ago. In fact, it is a few hours ago!

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why is bandos armor being affected by this? :wall:

 

wahhh is it dropping or rising??

Dropping.

 

Max Str gear to rush people.
I'm assuming he already knew why.
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why is bandos armor being affected by this? :wall:

 

wahhh is it dropping or rising??

 

 

 

 

 

dropping. people are offering claws for them rofl.

 

 

 

and it won't sell at lowest.

 

omfg meh ill keep my sets of bandos [bleep] it no point in selling now

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why is bandos armor being affected by this? :wall:

 

wahhh is it dropping or rising??

 

 

 

 

 

dropping. people are offering claws for them rofl.

 

 

 

and it won't sell at lowest.

 

omfg meh ill keep my sets of bandos [bleep] it no point in selling now

 

Ok how much money do you have if you had bandos, arma, claws and an ags?

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Players who enter a PvP or Bounty World will now automatically become skulled and unable to use the Protect Item prayer.

 

 

 

Why would they change this? It's been the same since the beginning, you can protect your best item. I predict BH worlds are going to be nearly empty with real Pkers, this will probably cause more people to quit than when they released the first BH. I'm really hoping they change it back because this is the most idiotic update of 2009.

 

 

 

Additionally, on members worlds, your victims must now lose at least 75,000 coins worth of items (increased from 25,000) for your earning potential to be applied to the drop.

 

 

 

That seems fair. But did they nerf the drops so you lose money instead of making a bit or breaking even?

 

 

 

What a stupid update.

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I believe the new must be a in a hotzone refers to people who have never visited a pvp world before this update, but don't take my word for it

 

 

 

Please note that you will have to be in a safe area before you can next log into a PvP or Bounty World. You will need to log into a non-PvP/Bounty World in order to move to a safe area. This is to ensure nobody logs in risking more than they are aware of. A message will explain this on login if you try to enter these worlds. This only applies to your next PvP/Bounty World login; from then on, you will be able to log in as normal.
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All i can say is i see alot of the players who wanted to fix 26king so badly are now the same ones that are again whining. This update is really good for people you acutally pk on pvp worlds now everyone really is risking items while they are there no worries about skulling everyones skulled. The only down side to this update is Smite can only be used to drain prayer to stop players from praying not much much other reason to use it. I always hated keeping track of prayer now i really have no reason to worrie about it... Haha again to all the whiners out there..

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