CharlieBrown Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy. Did you download your Bachelor of Psychiatry from the interwebz too!?! Main Account - Max cape achieved 10th September 2011 Noob Account - 2300 total and climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grogthurk Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 I guess I had better chime in. I spend roughly 8 hours on Runescape a day. Why? I get to my uni on Mon/Wed 2hr before my class starts. On Tue/Thur 4hr before my classes start. Not to mention the few hours between classes. I get all my homework done, but I am stuck at my uni. When I am home, I rarely play as much as I do at school. Suckas need to learn to understand people's situation rather than just assume they're no lifing. Edit: I'm saying, these guys obviously have lives. Drumgun has said he has a ladyfriend (unless I am high and am making [cabbage] up). Get off their cases ffs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aasiwat Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Suckas need to learn to understand people's situation rather than just assume they're no lifing. Couldn't agree more. Myself, I am physically very active, and so is Zarfot. Jdelacroix has a job that enables him to play whilst working.Just some examples. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamed Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Suckas need to learn to understand people's situation rather than just assume they're no lifing. Couldn't agree more. Myself, I am physically very active, and so is Zarfot. Jdelacroix has a job that enables him to play whilst working.Just some examples. Play..whilst..working.. Okay wtf, his job is Runescape? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zarfnot Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy. There are many definitions of the word healthy, mentally healthy, fitness etc. Also where did you get the 95% figure of "top players" from? Unless you do a questionnaire of these "top players" you cannot confirm they dont have parteners, go the gym or have social contacts like you stated, making the point invalid. Also being a "top player" *sometimes* means you have the financial backing to do the expensive routes of training saving you hours a day as they value their time much higher. By doing these routes they can get daily xp in over half the time an average player could. This is where these players free up time and can do things in real life if they wish. Just because someone has a huge amount of xp doesnt mean they dont have a life. Your stereotyping players, as some might not do the things you stated while im pretty sure it's not 95%. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy.I agreed with the first sentence, but stopped when you started to describe the stereotypic life as the standard. Healthy in my opinion is a good mix of everything, and having a balanced life. When you play 10h a day, this mostly isn't the case, but there can be exceptions. But by all means, please don't tell everyone to go to the gym, frantically find a girlfriend, doing *multiple* sports, having *lots* of social contacts. Damn, you are giving everyone a lot of pressure... Sad but true is 95% of the world doesn't have this healthy life you described. A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamed Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy. There are many definitions of the word healthy, mentally healthy, fitness etc. Also where did you get the 95% figure of "top players" from? Unless you do a questionnaire of these "top players" you cannot confirm they dont have parteners, go the gym or have social contacts like you stated, making the point invalid. Also being a "top player" *sometimes* means you have the financial backing to do the expensive routes of training saving you hours a day as they value their time much higher. By doing these routes they can get daily xp in over half the time an average player could. This is where these players free up time and can do things in real life if they wish. Just because someone has a huge amount of xp doesnt mean they dont have a life. Your stereotyping players, as some might not do the things you stated while im pretty sure it's not 95%. Not stereotyping, if you play a game 10 hours a day, no social and popular person will like you, which means you'll get thrown out social groups etc.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamed Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy.I agreed with the first sentence, but stopped when you started to describe the stereotypic life as the standard. Healthy in my opinion is a good mix of everything, and having a balanced life. When you play 10h a day, this mostly isn't the case, but there can be exceptions. But by all means, please don't tell everyone to go to the gym, frantically find a girlfriend, doing *multiple* sports, having *lots* of social contacts. Damn, you are giving everyone a lot of pressure... Sad but true is 95% of the world doesn't have this healthy life you described. ?well, OVER 50% of the almost 7 billion people on Earth Do have a relationship, friends, do sports tbh.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy.I agreed with the first sentence, but stopped when you started to describe the stereotypic life as the standard. Healthy in my opinion is a good mix of everything, and having a balanced life. When you play 10h a day, this mostly isn't the case, but there can be exceptions. But by all means, please don't tell everyone to go to the gym, frantically find a girlfriend, doing *multiple* sports, having *lots* of social contacts. Damn, you are giving everyone a lot of pressure... Sad but true is 95% of the world doesn't have this healthy life you described. ?well, OVER 50% of the almost 7 billion people on Earth Do have a relationship, friends, do sports tbh.. Over 50% of people are in a relationship? BRB KIDS GOING TO MEET MY OTHER FAMILY@@#!12*hic* (You realise if over 50% of the population of people are in a relationship, some people MUST have more than one partner.) Main Account - Max cape achieved 10th September 2011 Noob Account - 2300 total and climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy. There are many definitions of the word healthy, mentally healthy, fitness etc. Also where did you get the 95% figure of "top players" from? Unless you do a questionnaire of these "top players" you cannot confirm they dont have parteners, go the gym or have social contacts like you stated, making the point invalid. Also being a "top player" *sometimes* means you have the financial backing to do the expensive routes of training saving you hours a day as they value their time much higher. By doing these routes they can get daily xp in over half the time an average player could. This is where these players free up time and can do things in real life if they wish. Just because someone has a huge amount of xp doesnt mean they dont have a life. Your stereotyping players, as some might not do the things you stated while im pretty sure it's not 95%. Not stereotyping, if you play a game 10 hours a day, no social and popular person will like you, which means you'll get thrown out social groups etc.. Being social is not a requirement to be healthy, like pretty much all of the things you listed.Also it would be better to have friends with the same interests as you. If someone decides they don't like you because you play a game for that long, you probably wouldn't have much to talk about anyway.Forcing yourself to socialise with those people sounds stressful and pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamed Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy. There are many definitions of the word healthy, mentally healthy, fitness etc. Also where did you get the 95% figure of "top players" from? Unless you do a questionnaire of these "top players" you cannot confirm they dont have parteners, go the gym or have social contacts like you stated, making the point invalid. Also being a "top player" *sometimes* means you have the financial backing to do the expensive routes of training saving you hours a day as they value their time much higher. By doing these routes they can get daily xp in over half the time an average player could. This is where these players free up time and can do things in real life if they wish. Just because someone has a huge amount of xp doesnt mean they dont have a life. Your stereotyping players, as some might not do the things you stated while im pretty sure it's not 95%. Not stereotyping, if you play a game 10 hours a day, no social and popular person will like you, which means you'll get thrown out social groups etc.. Being social is not a requirement to be healthy, like pretty much all of the things you listed.Also it would be better to have friends with the same interests as you. If someone decides they don't like you because you play a game for that long, you probably wouldn't have much to talk about anyway.Forcing yourself to socialise with those people sounds stressful and pointless. I do not have to force myself to do that anyways, i barely play anymore, but just damnit. People who play a game 10 hours a day consistently over days/weeks/months/years, IF THEY LIKE THAT, okay damn.. BUT. You can spend your life MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better. And I think it's a pitiful waste. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nessaja Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 "You can spend your life MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better." Working a dead-end job and earning near minimum wage? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tuggernongy Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy. There are many definitions of the word healthy, mentally healthy, fitness etc. Also where did you get the 95% figure of "top players" from? Unless you do a questionnaire of these "top players" you cannot confirm they dont have parteners, go the gym or have social contacts like you stated, making the point invalid. Also being a "top player" *sometimes* means you have the financial backing to do the expensive routes of training saving you hours a day as they value their time much higher. By doing these routes they can get daily xp in over half the time an average player could. This is where these players free up time and can do things in real life if they wish. Just because someone has a huge amount of xp doesnt mean they dont have a life. Your stereotyping players, as some might not do the things you stated while im pretty sure it's not 95%. Not stereotyping, if you play a game 10 hours a day, no social and popular person will like you, which means you'll get thrown out social groups etc.. Being social is not a requirement to be healthy, like pretty much all of the things you listed.Also it would be better to have friends with the same interests as you. If someone decides they don't like you because you play a game for that long, you probably wouldn't have much to talk about anyway.Forcing yourself to socialise with those people sounds stressful and pointless. Adding to the quote pyramid, but responding to Teamed. have a lot of social contacts etc Hi. I'm ex-defence force. I currently play roughly 8 hours a day, and prior to that i was playing other online games for similar periods of time, while taking a break from Runescape. I have no financial need to work, and no intention to for a fair while. I read allot of uni-level nonfiction to keep my education going for my own intellectual fulfillment, I eat healthy throughout the day, I have a fast metabolism that enables me to do minimal working out to stay fit, and I'm currently living with my girlfriend who spends a good part of her day playing WoW. We'll socialise with our friends occasionally, but neither of us are exactly social butterflies that seems to fit this stereotype you think everyone should be conforming to. If you don't personally know any of the 'high-level' players, making assumptions about their lifestyles doesn't really contribute to this thread, even though it seemed to get extremely derailed a few pages ago anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamed Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 "You can spend your life MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better." Working a dead-end job and earning near minimum wage? Edited, forget what I said Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamed Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy. There are many definitions of the word healthy, mentally healthy, fitness etc. Also where did you get the 95% figure of "top players" from? Unless you do a questionnaire of these "top players" you cannot confirm they dont have parteners, go the gym or have social contacts like you stated, making the point invalid. Also being a "top player" *sometimes* means you have the financial backing to do the expensive routes of training saving you hours a day as they value their time much higher. By doing these routes they can get daily xp in over half the time an average player could. This is where these players free up time and can do things in real life if they wish. Just because someone has a huge amount of xp doesnt mean they dont have a life. Your stereotyping players, as some might not do the things you stated while im pretty sure it's not 95%. Not stereotyping, if you play a game 10 hours a day, no social and popular person will like you, which means you'll get thrown out social groups etc.. Being social is not a requirement to be healthy, like pretty much all of the things you listed.Also it would be better to have friends with the same interests as you. If someone decides they don't like you because you play a game for that long, you probably wouldn't have much to talk about anyway.Forcing yourself to socialise with those people sounds stressful and pointless. Adding to the quote pyramid, but responding to Teamed. have a lot of social contacts etc Hi. I'm ex-defence force. I currently play roughly 8 hours a day, and prior to that i was playing other online games for similar periods of time, while taking a break from Runescape. I have no financial need to work, and no intention to for a fair while. I read allot of uni-level nonfiction to keep my education going for my own intellectual fulfillment, I eat healthy throughout the day, I have a fast metabolism that enables me to do minimal working out to stay fit, and I'm currently living with my girlfriend who spends a good part of her day playing WoW. We'll socialise with our friends occasionally, but neither of us are exactly social butterflies that seems to fit this stereotype you think everyone should be conforming to. If you don't personally know any of the 'high-level' players, making assumptions about their lifestyles doesn't really contribute to this thread, even though it seemed to get extremely derailed a few pages ago anyway. Playing 8 hours a day is not good for your eyesightHaving no financial need to work; that is not common/you get just enough to feed yourself and maybe pay for internet?Eating healthy :thumbup:Fast metabolism okay,, doesn't mean you shouldn't be active for 2-3+ hours a day (build some condition)Girls who play games :thumbdown: I hope you do actually have time to have sex? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy. There are many definitions of the word healthy, mentally healthy, fitness etc. Also where did you get the 95% figure of "top players" from? Unless you do a questionnaire of these "top players" you cannot confirm they dont have parteners, go the gym or have social contacts like you stated, making the point invalid. Also being a "top player" *sometimes* means you have the financial backing to do the expensive routes of training saving you hours a day as they value their time much higher. By doing these routes they can get daily xp in over half the time an average player could. This is where these players free up time and can do things in real life if they wish. Just because someone has a huge amount of xp doesnt mean they dont have a life. Your stereotyping players, as some might not do the things you stated while im pretty sure it's not 95%. Not stereotyping, if you play a game 10 hours a day, no social and popular person will like you, which means you'll get thrown out social groups etc.. Being social is not a requirement to be healthy, like pretty much all of the things you listed.Also it would be better to have friends with the same interests as you. If someone decides they don't like you because you play a game for that long, you probably wouldn't have much to talk about anyway.Forcing yourself to socialise with those people sounds stressful and pointless. Adding to the quote pyramid, but responding to Teamed. have a lot of social contacts etc Hi. I'm ex-defence force. I currently play roughly 8 hours a day, and prior to that i was playing other online games for similar periods of time, while taking a break from Runescape. I have no financial need to work, and no intention to for a fair while. I read allot of uni-level nonfiction to keep my education going for my own intellectual fulfillment, I eat healthy throughout the day, I have a fast metabolism that enables me to do minimal working out to stay fit, and I'm currently living with my girlfriend who spends a good part of her day playing WoW. We'll socialise with our friends occasionally, but neither of us are exactly social butterflies that seems to fit this stereotype you think everyone should be conforming to. If you don't personally know any of the 'high-level' players, making assumptions about their lifestyles doesn't really contribute to this thread, even though it seemed to get extremely derailed a few pages ago anyway. Playing 8 hours a day is not good for your eyesightHaving no financial need to work; that is not common/you get just enough to feed yourself and maybe pay for internet?Eating healthy :thumbup:Fast metabolism okay,, doesn't mean you shouldn't be active for 2-3+ hours a day (build some condition)Girls who play games :thumbdown: I don't think there is any proof for that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamed Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy. There are many definitions of the word healthy, mentally healthy, fitness etc. Also where did you get the 95% figure of "top players" from? Unless you do a questionnaire of these "top players" you cannot confirm they dont have parteners, go the gym or have social contacts like you stated, making the point invalid. Also being a "top player" *sometimes* means you have the financial backing to do the expensive routes of training saving you hours a day as they value their time much higher. By doing these routes they can get daily xp in over half the time an average player could. This is where these players free up time and can do things in real life if they wish. Just because someone has a huge amount of xp doesnt mean they dont have a life. Your stereotyping players, as some might not do the things you stated while im pretty sure it's not 95%. Not stereotyping, if you play a game 10 hours a day, no social and popular person will like you, which means you'll get thrown out social groups etc.. Being social is not a requirement to be healthy, like pretty much all of the things you listed.Also it would be better to have friends with the same interests as you. If someone decides they don't like you because you play a game for that long, you probably wouldn't have much to talk about anyway.Forcing yourself to socialise with those people sounds stressful and pointless. Adding to the quote pyramid, but responding to Teamed. have a lot of social contacts etc Hi. I'm ex-defence force. I currently play roughly 8 hours a day, and prior to that i was playing other online games for similar periods of time, while taking a break from Runescape. I have no financial need to work, and no intention to for a fair while. I read allot of uni-level nonfiction to keep my education going for my own intellectual fulfillment, I eat healthy throughout the day, I have a fast metabolism that enables me to do minimal working out to stay fit, and I'm currently living with my girlfriend who spends a good part of her day playing WoW. We'll socialise with our friends occasionally, but neither of us are exactly social butterflies that seems to fit this stereotype you think everyone should be conforming to. If you don't personally know any of the 'high-level' players, making assumptions about their lifestyles doesn't really contribute to this thread, even though it seemed to get extremely derailed a few pages ago anyway. Playing 8 hours a day is not good for your eyesightHaving no financial need to work; that is not common/you get just enough to feed yourself and maybe pay for internet?Eating healthy :thumbup:Fast metabolism okay,, doesn't mean you shouldn't be active for 2-3+ hours a day (build some condition)Girls who play games :thumbdown: I don't think there is any proof for that. You want proof? Use your brain. Not going to say gaming is bad; just as bad would be sitting in front of a TV which is turned on for hours. Your eyes don't like it to be staring at one little point for a long time, it strains the muscles. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 "You can spend your life MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better." Working a dead-end job and earning near minimum wage? Well idk what flippin' gay country you're from, but here in the Netherlands, you earn enough to do close to anything you want, and if you finished university theres a [cabbage]load of jobs that can earn you 10.000 euros a month or more. /notgoingtoconvert YAAYAAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYLets insult other people and the country THEY LIVE IN, because THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU DO. You sir, are very, very naive. Main Account - Max cape achieved 10th September 2011 Noob Account - 2300 total and climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lacoste Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Been reading this thread for a while, and am curious as to the age group of the top ranked players, along with where they live and what country, if that not too personal. I understand people who can play upwards of 7 hours a day on a weekend, their day off, or vacation. How do you people who play that much support yourself? I know I am in no position to be suggesting lifestyle choices, but there has to be something more important to you then this game. I don't want to stereotype the "lifestyle" that others have suggested, but 10 hours seems a little much. Sorry if I came off arrogant or anything, I am genuinely curious as to where you live and such, because I believe demographics are a large factor in this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamed Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 "You can spend your life MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better." Working a dead-end job and earning near minimum wage? Well idk what flippin' gay country you're from, but here in the Netherlands, you earn enough to do close to anything you want, and if you finished university theres a [cabbage]load of jobs that can earn you 10.000 euros a month or more. /notgoingtoconvert YAAYAAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYLets insult other people and the country THEY LIVE IN, because THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU DO. You sir, are very, very naive. HE is the one who used HIS country as an example, so I use MINE? "Working a dead-end job and earning near minimum wage?" Lol yes, like that applies for every country....NO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy. There are many definitions of the word healthy, mentally healthy, fitness etc. Also where did you get the 95% figure of "top players" from? Unless you do a questionnaire of these "top players" you cannot confirm they dont have parteners, go the gym or have social contacts like you stated, making the point invalid. Also being a "top player" *sometimes* means you have the financial backing to do the expensive routes of training saving you hours a day as they value their time much higher. By doing these routes they can get daily xp in over half the time an average player could. This is where these players free up time and can do things in real life if they wish. Just because someone has a huge amount of xp doesnt mean they dont have a life. Your stereotyping players, as some might not do the things you stated while im pretty sure it's not 95%. Not stereotyping, if you play a game 10 hours a day, no social and popular person will like you, which means you'll get thrown out social groups etc.. Being social is not a requirement to be healthy, like pretty much all of the things you listed.Also it would be better to have friends with the same interests as you. If someone decides they don't like you because you play a game for that long, you probably wouldn't have much to talk about anyway.Forcing yourself to socialise with those people sounds stressful and pointless. Adding to the quote pyramid, but responding to Teamed. have a lot of social contacts etc Hi. I'm ex-defence force. I currently play roughly 8 hours a day, and prior to that i was playing other online games for similar periods of time, while taking a break from Runescape. I have no financial need to work, and no intention to for a fair while. I read allot of uni-level nonfiction to keep my education going for my own intellectual fulfillment, I eat healthy throughout the day, I have a fast metabolism that enables me to do minimal working out to stay fit, and I'm currently living with my girlfriend who spends a good part of her day playing WoW. We'll socialise with our friends occasionally, but neither of us are exactly social butterflies that seems to fit this stereotype you think everyone should be conforming to. If you don't personally know any of the 'high-level' players, making assumptions about their lifestyles doesn't really contribute to this thread, even though it seemed to get extremely derailed a few pages ago anyway. Playing 8 hours a day is not good for your eyesightHaving no financial need to work; that is not common/you get just enough to feed yourself and maybe pay for internet?Eating healthy :thumbup:Fast metabolism okay,, doesn't mean you shouldn't be active for 2-3+ hours a day (build some condition)Girls who play games :thumbdown: I don't think there is any proof for that. You want proof? Use your brain. Not going to say gaming is bad; just as bad would be sitting in front of a TV which is turned on for hours. Your eyes don't like it to be staring at one little point for a long time, it strains the muscles. If you're staring at one little point, yeah. But not just using the computer in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CharlieBrown Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 "You can spend your life MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better." Working a dead-end job and earning near minimum wage? Well idk what flippin' gay country you're from, but here in the Netherlands, you earn enough to do close to anything you want, and if you finished university theres a [cabbage]load of jobs that can earn you 10.000 euros a month or more. /notgoingtoconvert YAAYAAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYLets insult other people and the country THEY LIVE IN, because THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU DO. You sir, are very, very naive. HE is the one who used HIS country as an example, so I use MINE? "Working a dead-end job and earning near minimum wage?" Lol yes, like that applies for every country....NO. He never once insulted where you reside. He replied to a stereotypical post YOU made. Main Account - Max cape achieved 10th September 2011 Noob Account - 2300 total and climbing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Teamed Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 "You can spend your life MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH MUCH better." Working a dead-end job and earning near minimum wage? Well idk what flippin' gay country you're from, but here in the Netherlands, you earn enough to do close to anything you want, and if you finished university theres a [cabbage]load of jobs that can earn you 10.000 euros a month or more. /notgoingtoconvert YAAYAAYAYAYAYAYYAYAYAYLets insult other people and the country THEY LIVE IN, because THEY DON'T HAVE THE SAME OPPORTUNITIES THAT YOU DO. You sir, are very, very naive. HE is the one who used HIS country as an example, so I use MINE? "Working a dead-end job and earning near minimum wage?" Lol yes, like that applies for every country....NO. He never once insulted where you reside. He replied to a stereotypical post YOU made. My excuses. It just kind of boils me up inside when.. not boils me up, but I freaking love my life, and that's because I make the right decisions (imo) and even still it's opinion-based, you can spend your life better then mainly gaming. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Askthedude Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 Wow, way to derail the topic guys... Why can't the Big Bang be done by the hand of God?It could have, but it is next to impossible because it also could have been caused by the flying spaghetti monster, or one of the other infinite number of deity possibilities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bedman Posted December 11, 2010 Share Posted December 11, 2010 xpx is starting to sound like one of the level 80s who flame all high levels for being fat nerds. And what does 'being successful in life' however you may see it have to do with this? Not everyone needs to, or wants to have a full time job at a specific point in their lives, nor is it the only criteria for being successful. And while you keep coming with your efficiency stories I will be happy to spend time further improving my physical condition, filling the gaps in my knowledge and having a non-obsessive mindset towards video game efficiency, so keep it up. :thumbup: Just some simple maths: Amount of hours in a day: 24Amount of hours spent sleeping on average: 8Amount of hours spent awake: 24-8=16Assumed amount of hours played: 10 (somewhat accurate in my case)Amount of hours left for other activities: 16-10=6 Additionally, being able to do other things during the hours spent playing if you don't go full concentration. Sometimes the way someone WANTS to spend their life isn't healthy. Not working and spending those 8/9/10 hours you'd work playing a game is not healthy, period. Being healthy is eating healthy, going to the gym and/or doing Multiple sports, have a girl/boyfriend, have a lot of social contacts etc. Sad but true is 95% of the top players do not have anything mentioned of the above. Might still be good for them to do what they want, does not mean it's healthy.I agreed with the first sentence, but stopped when you started to describe the stereotypic life as the standard. Healthy in my opinion is a good mix of everything, and having a balanced life. When you play 10h a day, this mostly isn't the case, but there can be exceptions. But by all means, please don't tell everyone to go to the gym, frantically find a girlfriend, doing *multiple* sports, having *lots* of social contacts. Damn, you are giving everyone a lot of pressure... Sad but true is 95% of the world doesn't have this healthy life you described. ?well, OVER 50% of the almost 7 billion people on Earth Do have a relationship, friends, do sports tbh.. Over 50% of people are in a relationship? BRB KIDS GOING TO MEET MY OTHER FAMILY@@#!12*hic* (You realise if over 50% of the population of people are in a relationship, some people MUST have more than one partner.) You are wrong charliebrown: Both my parents are counted in this percentage, yet it's one relationship. 3.5B people are in a relationship, 3.5B aren't. This means there are rougly 1.75B relationships, each consisting of 2 partners. Teamed, I meant that 95% doesn't meet ALL the reqs you listed.Also, claiming it's easy to earn 10000 euros a month in the Netherlands after you've finished UNI just makes you seem stupid, so please don't make any claims on stuff you don't know [cabbage] about.I'm studying in Belgium right now, doing one of the studies that gives access to the best jobs, and I'll be happy if I make over 2000 euro's a month, at the start. CERTAINLY NOT 10000 EURO, that's insane for someone coming right off the university (even when he's a civil engineer or whatever). A Guide to Chinning in Ape atoll: up to 325kxp/h! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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