Durant Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The problem is people have 13B+ to spend on all 200M XP but the ones that are pure dedication are almost impossible. Think of it this way, at 2 hours a a day you could get 13M Runecrafting XP (99) in 250 days. Now multiply that by 15 because that is about 200M XP, it would take 3,750 days if you played at least 2 hours a day, everyday.You are right, but people going for all 200ms or at least the top 15 play well more than 2 hours a day. So your point is kind of invalid.This isn't 2007We don't get rc exp at a rate of 25k per hourDo the math. You can make a MAXIMUM of 2.9K Nats in an hour. That means you have the highest pouches, are effecient clicker, have high agility, have access to 30 Amulets of Glories. It isn't like you're going to be getting 100K RC EXP an hour. Also, I was just giving an average as 2 hours a day. Sure, people play more than 2 hours a day, but no one in their right mind would play for 8 years Runecrafting for more than 2 hours a day. :rolleyes: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hameigh Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Can't take cannon into mith drags either still. I really don't see how they could forget about CT and Kuradal's dungeon... So it could be intentional. Doesn't mean they won't change it back to how it was though if non-cannoners complain hard enough. Gotta wait for a reply on HLF I guess. Does it work in the Slayer tower and Slayer caves?Someone said it still didn't work in slayer tower. Maybe they have an older version of cannon-blocking code in slayer tower and ancient cavern, but a newer version in Kura's and ct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kekek Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The problem is people have 13B+ to spend on all 200M XP but the ones that are pure dedication are almost impossible. Think of it this way, at 2 hours a a day you could get 13M Runecrafting XP (99) in 250 days. Now multiply that by 15 because that is about 200M XP, it would take 3,750 days if you played at least 2 hours a day, everyday.You are right, but people going for all 200ms or at least the top 15 play well more than 2 hours a day. So your point is kind of invalid.This isn't 2007We don't get rc exp at a rate of 25k per hourDo the math. You can make a MAXIMUM of 2.9K Nats in an hour. That means you have the highest pouches, are effecient clicker, have high agility, have access to 30 Amulets of Glories. It isn't like you're going to be getting 100K RC EXP an hour. Also, I was just giving an average as 2 hours a day. Sure, people play more than 2 hours a day, but no one in their right mind would play for 8 years Runecrafting for more than 2 hours a day. :rolleyes:And no one crafts nats. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Try Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Do the math. You can make a MAXIMUM of 2.9K Nats in an hour. That means you have the highest pouches, are effecient clicker, have high agility, have access to 30 Amulets of Glories. It isn't like you're going to be getting 100K RC EXP an hour. Also, I was just giving an average as 2 hours a day. Sure, people play more than 2 hours a day, but no one in their right mind would play for 8 years Runecrafting for more than 2 hours a day. :rolleyes:ZMI is 65k+ xp/hr. Also a considerable amount of rc xp can be gained from effigies. Not sure if you're trolling but many of the top players don't seem to have a problem with focusing on a skill 15+ hours a day for months. :shades: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hameigh Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The problem is people have 13B+ to spend on all 200M XP but the ones that are pure dedication are almost impossible. Think of it this way, at 2 hours a a day you could get 13M Runecrafting XP (99) in 250 days. Now multiply that by 15 because that is about 200M XP, it would take 3,750 days if you played at least 2 hours a day, everyday.You are right, but people going for all 200ms or at least the top 15 play well more than 2 hours a day. So your point is kind of invalid.This isn't 2007We don't get rc exp at a rate of 25k per hourDo the math. You can make a MAXIMUM of 2.9K Nats in an hour. That means you have the highest pouches, are effecient clicker, have high agility, have access to 30 Amulets of Glories. It isn't like you're going to be getting 100K RC EXP an hour. Also, I was just giving an average as 2 hours a day. Sure, people play more than 2 hours a day, but no one in their right mind would play for 8 years Runecrafting for more than 2 hours a day. :rolleyes:And no one crafts nats.Calcs earlier showed that 100k RC xp/hr is possible by paying ZMI runners. However if you want to break even I think then running yourself is somewhere around 65k XP/hr I don't know how high exactly without looking it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aribiterspar Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The problem is people have 13B+ to spend on all 200M XP but the ones that are pure dedication are almost impossible. Think of it this way, at 2 hours a a day you could get 13M Runecrafting XP (99) in 250 days. Now multiply that by 15 because that is about 200M XP, it would take 3,750 days if you played at least 2 hours a day, everyday.You are right, but people going for all 200ms or at least the top 15 play well more than 2 hours a day. So your point is kind of invalid.This isn't 2007We don't get rc exp at a rate of 25k per hourDo the math. You can make a MAXIMUM of 2.9K Nats in an hour. That means you have the highest pouches, are effecient clicker, have high agility, have access to 30 Amulets of Glories. It isn't like you're going to be getting 100K RC EXP an hour. Also, I was just giving an average as 2 hours a day. Sure, people play more than 2 hours a day, but no one in their right mind would play for 8 years Runecrafting for more than 2 hours a day. :rolleyes: l2 zmi for 60k+/h also just sayin 200m slay is a nice 120m rc xp free + assists for 10m+ xp/year so 10 hours a day -600k xp/day is 18m months -11 months to 200m rc if you just rc ed only 10 hours a day and didnt ever assist or use effigies btw 7.4k nats/h closer to max den 2.9k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 How fast is paying blood runners? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoooooooooooooooooooo Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 The problem is people have 13B+ to spend on all 200M XP but the ones that are pure dedication are almost impossible. Think of it this way, at 2 hours a a day you could get 13M Runecrafting XP (99) in 250 days. Now multiply that by 15 because that is about 200M XP, it would take 3,750 days if you played at least 2 hours a day, everyday.You are right, but people going for all 200ms or at least the top 15 play well more than 2 hours a day. So your point is kind of invalid.This isn't 2007We don't get rc exp at a rate of 25k per hourDo the math. You can make a MAXIMUM of 2.9K Nats in an hour. That means you have the highest pouches, are effecient clicker, have high agility, have access to 30 Amulets of Glories. It isn't like you're going to be getting 100K RC EXP an hour. Also, I was just giving an average as 2 hours a day. Sure, people play more than 2 hours a day, but no one in their right mind would play for 8 years Runecrafting for more than 2 hours a day. :rolleyes: l2 zmi for 60k+/h also just sayin 200m slay is a nice 120m rc xp free + assists for 10m+ xp/year so 10 hours a day -600k xp/day is 18m months -11 months to 200m rc if you just rc ed only 10 hours a day and didnt ever assist or use effigies btw 7.4k nats/h closer to max den 2.9ki think he was talking about crafting nats through the abyss lol. "access to 30 amulets of glory" makes it even funnier Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebrim Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 He's also assuming that all skills are equally as slow as crafting nats in abyss Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GE_Slave_o Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Sorry but I think ALL Runecrafting discussion is useless... Guide to lvl 91-200m Rc xp: Assist Runecrafting 30k xp/day untill you are 99 Runecrafting. At 99 Runecrafting, slay to 200m and you will get more 120m Runecrafting Xp. Keep Assisting to 200m. Grats you just got 200m Runecrafting Xp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoooooooooooooooooooo Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Sorry but I think ALL Runecrafting discussion is useless... Guide to lvl 91-200m Rc xp: Assist Runecrafting 30k xp/day untill you are 99 Runecrafting. At 99 Runecrafting, slay to 200m and you will get more 120m Runecrafting Xp. Keep Assisting to 200m. Grats you just got 200m Runecrafting Xp.we're not discussing rc, just correcting that troll/idiot? also thanks for posting exactly what aribiterspar said a couple posts up Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsboutin2 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Sorry but I think ALL Runecrafting discussion is useless... Guide to lvl 91-200m Rc xp: Assist Runecrafting 30k xp/day untill you are 99 Runecrafting. At 99 Runecrafting, slay to 200m and you will get more 120m Runecrafting Xp. Keep Assisting to 200m. Grats you just got 200m Runecrafting Xp. After 2333 days, assisting every single day. Have fun for the next 6.5 years :P Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amitoz Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Sorry but I think ALL Runecrafting discussion is useless... Guide to lvl 91-200m Rc xp: Assist Runecrafting 30k xp/day untill you are 99 Runecrafting. At 99 Runecrafting, slay to 200m and you will get more 120m Runecrafting Xp. Keep Assisting to 200m. Grats you just got 200m Runecrafting Xp. After 2333 days, assisting every single day. Have fun for the next 6.5 years :P :thumbup: Come to my Clan chat (I'm there if I'm online) if you wish to borrow a Green H'ween mask, Blue H'ween Mask, Red H'ween Mask, or Santa for a reasonable price. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Sorry but I think ALL Runecrafting discussion is useless... Guide to lvl 91-200m Rc xp: Assist Runecrafting 30k xp/day untill you are 99 Runecrafting. At 99 Runecrafting, slay to 200m and you will get more 120m Runecrafting Xp. Keep Assisting to 200m. Grats you just got 200m Runecrafting Xp. After 2333 days, assisting every single day. Have fun for the next 6.5 years :P :thumbup:rcing discussion isnt pointless however a large majority would be gotten from crawlers if u use the effigies on slay method then crawlers and then after that assist :D it kinda does suck how so much rc can be gotten without really rcing since ive alternated from rc and slay for effigies i got about 7m + rcing exp and 7m+ slay exp off effigy :S but yes its fast :P edit:noone that plays 2hrs a day will ever get 200m in all ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The_Star_King Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 edit:noone that plays 2hrs a day will ever get 200m in all ever Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperbag Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I have a question for any of you math nerds (sarcastic) out there :PFor the 10 hours of bonus xp, what's the average I would be getting per hour? (According to the chart) I can't seem to find a way to figure that out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A13d Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I have a question for any of you math nerds (sarcastic) out there :PFor the 10 hours of bonus xp, what's the average I would be getting per hour? (According to the chart) I can't seem to find a way to figure that out.I think it's like 1.7x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muuuuuuuuuu Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I have a question for any of you math nerds (sarcastic) out there :PFor the 10 hours of bonus xp, what's the average I would be getting per hour? (According to the chart) I can't seem to find a way to figure that out.I think it's like 1.7x1.695x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperbag Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I have a question for any of you math nerds (sarcastic) out there :PFor the 10 hours of bonus xp, what's the average I would be getting per hour? (According to the chart) I can't seem to find a way to figure that out.I think it's like 1.7x1.695xThanks :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Squisher_33 Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 its not a bug gwd generals still destroy it you cannot take it into fight caves many previous places it couldnt be used it still cant the only changes are that the gold one can go to ct and kuradals, seems like a nice rewards for the smithing guild this does make blk demons + steel titan the best effigys tho, about 1.2/h + great crimsons, probably 200-300 crimsons/h at max pace cannoning wfs would be more probably, but would be very deadly since cannon would draw agro from all of them on you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paperbag Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Dragonseance just posted on the HLF that he got 500 crims in 40 mins at waterfiends CT :blink: Freaking insane. If this stays and isnt a bug, I'll definitely consider 200m summoning this way. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muuuuuuuuuu Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 I have a question for any of you math nerds (sarcastic) out there :PFor the 10 hours of bonus xp, what's the average I would be getting per hour? (According to the chart) I can't seem to find a way to figure that out.I think it's like 1.7x1.695xThanks :)For reference, the way to calculate is to sum up the rates for each half hour, and divide by the total number of them, since each rate is for the same time period.This gives (2.7+2.55+2.4+2.25+2.1+2+1.9+1.8+1.7+1.6+1.5+1.45+1.4+1.35+1.3+1.25+1.2+1.175+1.15+1.125)/20=1.695. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aribiterspar Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 its not a bug gwd generals still destroy it you cannot take it into fight caves many previous places it couldnt be used it still cant the only changes are that the gold one can go to ct and kuradals, seems like a nice rewards for the smithing guild this does make blk demons + steel titan the best effigys tho, about 1.2/h + great crimsons, probably 200-300 crimsons/h at max pace cannoning wfs would be more probably, but would be very deadly since cannon would draw agro from all of them on you The CT isnt really stocked with black demons lol I dont really know how many kill/h it would actually increase it by some1 should try it I messaged dragonseance he said he will, so if results arent already well know by 2marrow ill post his results on here (saying 2marrow cause im off to bed now ) also you could prolly tank the fiends with divine and the other good defense armours just fine Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Xensure Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 Alright he are my predictions in more detail. Optimal Task List: Do:Bloodvelds Dark beasts Black demons Ice strykewyrms Hellhounds Aberrant spectres Dagannoth Black dragons Suqahs Steel dragons TzHaar (Jad) Iron dragons Mithril dragons Cancel:Terror dogs Dust devils Warped tortoises Blue dragons Waterfiends Fire giants Gargoyles Kalphites Skeletal wyverns Greater demons Jungle strykewyrms Blocked:Nechryaels Desert strykewyrms Living rock creatures Aquanites Abyssal demons Spiritual mages This takes in to account charm rates, Effigy rates, slayer xp, kills per hour, and frequency of assignment. Based upon Viv's frequency my model predicts that over 185m slayer xp if you use effigies on anything but slayer, you should expected: Total Summon Xp: 168,614,094.75 (330,762 greens, 172,464 crims, and 54,249 blues)Total Prayer Xp: 23,697,966 (Bone crusher for all bones, and Infernal Urns for all ashes)Total Effigies: 2,031 Total Investigation xp: 22,847,601.42 Total Lamp Xp: 97,541,995.43 Total Hours Slaying: 4148.244148Average Xp/hour: 44,597.18 I am trying to figure out how to make all of my formulas work if you use effigies on slayer, but that seems to [bleep] everything up right now. That wouldn't change the task list, just total hours and xp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fou Posted March 10, 2011 Share Posted March 10, 2011 its not a bug gwd generals still destroy it you cannot take it into fight caves many previous places it couldnt be used it still cant the only changes are that the gold one can go to ct and kuradals, seems like a nice rewards for the smithing guild this does make blk demons + steel titan the best effigys tho, about 1.2/h + great crimsons, probably 200-300 crimsons/h at max pace cannoning wfs would be more probably, but would be very deadly since cannon would draw agro from all of them on you The CT isnt really stocked with black demons lol I dont really know how many kill/h it would actually increase it by some1 should try it I messaged dragonseance he said he will, so if results arent already well know by 2marrow ill post his results on here (saying 2marrow cause im off to bed now ) also you could prolly tank the fiends with divine and the other good defense armours just fineThe black demons resource dungeon is where you would cannon (multi, 8 demon spawns) not in the chaos tunnels room itself (4 spawns) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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