ghjkl Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Gremmy has the cls for the ladies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Yep, rapier sucks for what I need chaotic for.Therefore CLS > Rapier is subjective to you. No, it's not subjective. It's been proven that it's better.Proven where Most monsters have so little defence that the Strength bonus doesn't matter. If speed doesn't matter, why not use a Chaotic MaulThe last 50 pages. Slightly better then Rapier MHing, which is what I need it for. Don't even bother trying to make me regret it.How is it not subjective when you ignore most of the game? CLS might be better for you, but saying it's a better weapon is just showing how stupid you are. This thread clearly proves that if you are maxed/have turmoil/overloads, rapier is a much better overall weapon. Exactly. I don't need an overall weapon, so please don't call me stupid, arrogant [bleep].You just proved yourself wrong. Nice going there. Mad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremmy Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Yep, rapier sucks for what I need chaotic for.Therefore CLS > Rapier is subjective to you. No, it's not subjective. It's been proven that it's better.Proven where Most monsters have so little defence that the Strength bonus doesn't matter. If speed doesn't matter, why not use a Chaotic MaulThe last 50 pages. Slightly better then Rapier MHing, which is what I need it for. Don't even bother trying to make me regret it.How is it not subjective when you ignore most of the game? CLS might be better for you, but saying it's a better weapon is just showing how stupid you are. This thread clearly proves that if you are maxed/have turmoil/overloads, rapier is a much better overall weapon. Exactly. I don't need an overall weapon, so please don't call me stupid, arrogant [bleep].You just proved yourself wrong. Nice going there. Mad? Yes I am mad. There's no need to start with [cabbage] like that. Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Calm down guys, it's just the internet. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremmy Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 No, cls is better then rapier. I don't give a [cabbage] about your figures and efficiency. Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grimy_Bunyip Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 No, cls is better then rapier. I don't give a [cabbage] about your figures and efficiency.then you have no proof, as math only math can "prove" anything.Everything else, including science, can only provide confidence intervals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Feedin' the troll, OM NOM NOM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremmy Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 No, cls is better then rapier. I don't give a [cabbage] about your figures and efficiency.then you have no proof, as math only math can "prove" anything.Everything else, including science, can only provide confidence intervals. Don't forget my numbers on getting with girls. Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Evil_Sabre Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 No, cls is better then rapier. I don't give a [cabbage] about your figures and efficiency.then you have no proof, as math only math can "prove" anything.Everything else, including science, can only provide confidence intervals. Don't forget my numbers on getting with girls. Zero isn't a real number. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremmy Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 No, cls is better then rapier. I don't give a [cabbage] about your figures and efficiency.then you have no proof, as math only math can "prove" anything.Everything else, including science, can only provide confidence intervals. Don't forget my numbers on getting with girls. Zero isn't a real number. Of course it is, don't be lame. Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 No, cls is better then rapier. I don't give a [cabbage] about your figures and efficiency.then you have no proof, as math only math can "prove" anything.Everything else, including science, can only provide confidence intervals. Don't forget my numbers on getting with girls. Zero isn't a real number. RuneScape isn't possible without 0. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smapla Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 each chaotic weapon has at least one situation where it is the best option. if gremmy only does things where the chaotic longsword is best, then he made the right choice. although the rapier may be generally better, this does not mean that it is always better to get. though it may be 15% better at some things, and the longsword 5% better at other things, if you never are fighting things where the rapier is 15% superior, then obviously you'd want the weapon which is 5% better Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremmy Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Thank you. I think Smapla finally has put a conclusion to this degrading thread. Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Thank you. I think Smapla finally has put a conclusion to this degrading thread. About damn time, I doubt it'll make a difference though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Youmu Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Really guys, there wouldn't ever be a conclusion to all of this if people just keep saying stuff like Gremmy's posts. I've been following this thread and found out that each weapon is useful in its own right, but the rapier is better at more things than the longsword is. What puzzles me even more is that maul isn't even in this debate. So really, is there an end to this ongoing debate? Or are people just too stubborn to accept one or the other? BlogTrimmed | Master Quester | Final BossBoss pets: Bombi | Shrimpy | Ellie | Tz-Rek Jad | Karil the Bobbled | Mega Ducklings120s: Dungeoneering | Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bassy Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Really guys, there wouldn't ever be a conclusion to all of this if people just keep saying stuff like Gremmy's posts. I've been following this thread and found out that each weapon is useful in its own right, but the rapier is better at more things than the longsword is. What puzzles me even more is that maul isn't even in this debate. So really, is there an end to this ongoing debate? Or are people just too stubborn to accept one or the other? Everyone likes their pixels different, so I doubt this will ever end. The maul seems to be mentioned on every other page or so whenever someone makes the original realization that it's good for PvP. Otherwise this is just Rapier stats being refuted by people who bought the Longsword first without thinking. Click Here for a Common Sense Dungeoneering Guide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gremmy Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Was my troll not obvious enough? I know rapier is the best overall, and I would have bought that if I needed to slay, PVP, PVM etc., but I only need a weapon for PVM, and like Smapla, with many others said, the longsword is slightly better for that. Can we please let this thread die Dragon drops: 82 (2 claws)Dagannoth kings drops: 73Barrows item count: 51GWD drops: 54 (5 hilts: 1x bandos, 3x saradomin, 1x zamorak)Whips: 4Sigils: 1x spectral (FFA), 1x arcane (FFA) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Was my troll not obvious enough? I know rapier is the best overall, and I would have bought that if I needed to slay, PVP, PVM etc., but I only need a weapon for PVM, and like Smapla, with many others said, the longsword is slightly better for that. Can we please let this thread die There we go. It's subjective. Back to square one Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Thank you. I think Smapla finally has put a conclusion to this degrading thread.When comparing two weapons people look for objective, conclusive results, thus why most of us say that the rapier is better, and truth be told, the fact that the CLS is better for you is irrelevant for this topic, none of us here actually detest your choice, CLS might very well be the right choice for you, but when your reasoning for CLS to be better than rapier is that it's better for you, you are stupid. This thread really shouldn't die as there isn't yet conclusive testing done to prove the usefulness of the weapons against one another- we only know the general lining for what is best for the boss monsters, but not real numbers. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Smapla Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Thank you. I think Smapla finally has put a conclusion to this degrading thread.When comparing two weapons people look for objective, conclusive results, thus why most of us say that the rapier is better, and truth be told, the fact that the CLS is better for you is irrelevant for this topic, none of us here actually detest your choice, CLS might very well be the right choice for you, but when your reasoning for CLS to be better than rapier is that it's better for you, you are stupid. This thread really shouldn't die as there isn't yet conclusive testing done to prove the usefulness of the weapons against one another- we only know the general lining for what is best for the boss monsters, but not real numbers. i believe gremmy said he was trolling when he said that. obviously, a weapon being the best choice for one person does not make it the best choice for everyone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golvellius Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Really guys, there wouldn't ever be a conclusion to all of this if people just keep saying stuff like Gremmy's posts. I've been following this thread and found out that each weapon is useful in its own right, but the rapier is better at more things than the longsword is. What puzzles me even more is that maul isn't even in this debate. So really, is there an end to this ongoing debate? Or are people just too stubborn to accept one or the other? Everyone likes their pixels different, so I doubt this will ever end. The maul seems to be mentioned on every other page or so whenever someone makes the original realization that it's good for PvP. Otherwise this is just Rapier stats being refuted by people who bought the Longsword first without thinking.Nah, it won't end until the rapier fanboys realize that killing fire giants with an extra 19 strength for 200k/hr ain't as slick as it sounds. Here lets sum up this thread in a nutshell. Whip for slayer CLS for big effin monstersCMaul for PVPCRapier for fanboys who got lots of GP but never heard of a cannon Exclusive Legacy Mode Player He just successfully trolled you with "courtesy" and managed to get a reaction out of you. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyeater Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Really guys, there wouldn't ever be a conclusion to all of this if people just keep saying stuff like Gremmy's posts. I've been following this thread and found out that each weapon is useful in its own right, but the rapier is better at more things than the longsword is. What puzzles me even more is that maul isn't even in this debate. So really, is there an end to this ongoing debate? Or are people just too stubborn to accept one or the other? Everyone likes their pixels different, so I doubt this will ever end. The maul seems to be mentioned on every other page or so whenever someone makes the original realization that it's good for PvP. Otherwise this is just Rapier stats being refuted by people who bought the Longsword first without thinking.Nah, it won't end until the rapier fanboys realize that killing fire giants with an extra 19 strength for 200k/hr ain't as slick as it sounds. Here lets sum up this thread in a nutshell. Whip for slayer CLS for big effin monstersCMaul for PVPCRapier for fanboys who got lots of GP but never heard of a cannon After all the discusion thats gone on in this thread. People still make troll statements about which one is better ^ There is no point in this thread anymore. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Really guys, there wouldn't ever be a conclusion to all of this if people just keep saying stuff like Gremmy's posts. I've been following this thread and found out that each weapon is useful in its own right, but the rapier is better at more things than the longsword is. What puzzles me even more is that maul isn't even in this debate. So really, is there an end to this ongoing debate? Or are people just too stubborn to accept one or the other? Everyone likes their pixels different, so I doubt this will ever end. The maul seems to be mentioned on every other page or so whenever someone makes the original realization that it's good for PvP. Otherwise this is just Rapier stats being refuted by people who bought the Longsword first without thinking.Nah, it won't end until the rapier fanboys realize that killing fire giants with an extra 19 strength for 200k/hr ain't as slick as it sounds. Here lets sum up this thread in a nutshell. Whip for slayer CLS for big effin monstersCMaul for PVPCRapier for fanboys who got lots of GP but never heard of a cannonYou know that when you post false figures, people will not be able to take you serious. But in any case, rapier would save you enough money and get enough drops for you to be able to accumulate 10k tokens and 200k, so no doubt, rapier will always be better than whip in that way. The other way is just depending on how good a player you are and if you value your time at all. It can't be stressed enough- you can't buy time. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SirIzenhime Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Nah, it won't end until the rapier fanboys realize that killing fire giants with an extra 19 strength for 200k/hr ain't as slick as it sounds. Here lets sum up this thread in a nutshell. Whip for slayer CLS for big effin monstersCMaul for PVPCRapier for fanboys who got lots of GP but never heard of a cannon I lol'ed....so very very hard. The rapier EASILY makes MUCH MORE then 200k an hour MORE then what you can make with the whip.I noticed a HUUGGE difference in speed when I started slaying with my rapier over whip Fisher/Woodcut------Me-----Miner/crafter----Stabber----Leecher ^Golvellius must be so proud^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DyingSilent Posted September 20, 2010 Share Posted September 20, 2010 Really guys, there wouldn't ever be a conclusion to all of this if people just keep saying stuff like Gremmy's posts. I've been following this thread and found out that each weapon is useful in its own right, but the rapier is better at more things than the longsword is. What puzzles me even more is that maul isn't even in this debate. So really, is there an end to this ongoing debate? Or are people just too stubborn to accept one or the other? Everyone likes their pixels different, so I doubt this will ever end. The maul seems to be mentioned on every other page or so whenever someone makes the original realization that it's good for PvP. Otherwise this is just Rapier stats being refuted by people who bought the Longsword first without thinking.Nah, it won't end until the rapier fanboys realize that killing fire giants with an extra 19 strength for 200k/hr ain't as slick as it sounds. Here lets sum up this thread in a nutshell. Whip for slayer CLS for big effin monstersCMaul for PVPCRapier for fanboys who got lots of GP but never heard of a cannonYou know that when you post false figures, people will not be able to take you serious. But in any case, rapier would save you enough money and get enough drops for you to be able to accumulate 10k tokens and 200k, so no doubt, rapier will always be better than whip in that way. The other way is just depending on how good a player you are and if you value your time at all. It can't be stressed enough- you can't buy time. Buying flux capacitor! 2461/2496 Total, 35 levels to CompletionistSunstriker: Path to Completionist Cape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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