stonewall337 Posted July 9, 2010 Author Share Posted July 9, 2010 Im all for this idea... i hate [cabbage] heels on the internet talking tough because they have anonymity. This is a great idea. The people worried are the weak lamers who like to talk [cabbage] and act tough. If you dont be a flaming [wagon] then who cares if people know your name.As has been stated, future employers for one. [hide=Drops]Araxxor Eye x1 Leg pieces x2GWD: 5000 Addy bar Steam B Staff x3 Z Spear x6 Sara. Hilt x2 Bandos Hilt x2 (LS, Solo)SS x6 (1 LS)Tormented Demons: Shard x6 Slice x5 Claws x9 Limbs x3DKS: Archer x21 Warrior x31 Berserker x30 Axe x51[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Echocut Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 It seems like they are trying to experiment with something highly explosive that, which most likely, would explode in their faces.I hope Blizzard's Fire Department and their Attourneys are standing by, things could get really nasty. But I can see how it can be beneficial, however, at the moment, the negative aspects just overwhelm the positives. It just scares me. I'm just not convinced. We'll see how well Blizzard handles this. 67/99/120 Invention Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ArtemisCatal Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 You seem to have an inflated idea of what law inforcement is going to do. They have "real" crimes to tend to, they are not going to spend man-hours because some 14 year old is getting threatening phone calls from some other 14 year old. That's just "kids stuff", not something for police to get involved in. And if they do get involved, say the kid is the child of a school board memeber or something, likely it ruins kid B's life, cause they are going to hit him hard and fast, and he will probably be a really hardened criminal when he gets out of juvie when he's 21. There is no middle ground. And it wont matter what age the people are because its in conection with a "game" which means it's not serious and the police will immediatly scoff it off as childishness. Gaming, after all, is not the adult pasttime of drinking beer and taking pop-shots at the cans. Well the first course of action -if it happens through kids- is for the parents to take contact with the other parents.. Then the other parents should give their child a stern look and it ought to be over! If that doesn't work, the parent of the offended kid should take it to the school, which should take action (maybe add a theme about social interactions to the course), if all that won't work, there is apparantly something much more problematic with the offending kid. (not listening to school & parents, isn't really bright) and some other organization specialized for these types of kids should be mobilized!And don't say me this is a lot of work: most of it goes automatically and really how often do you expect this to happen? A) You have to know who is doing itB) my child is a little angel and would never do such a thing, you horible horible man!!! how do you know my kid!! are you luring him into chat rooms! i'm calling the cops, you pervertC) uh, what if the stalker is a 65 year old man?D) Hahahah!! schools cant even admit to a non-costodial parent that a child even goes to a school. You try telling a school to do something about something that they have no proof of, and happened outside of school. They are far too busy to listen to every nut that calls up and says " you should say something to little jonny, he's theatening me over what we did last night in WOW" They will call the police on you, for even calling up and mentioning a kid and you will have your life torn apart for any sign of impropriaty with minors. This one I really do promise! Anyone who calls up about a kid they have no business knowing about is looked at with suspicion. But seriously, if you try that last one, please post it on youtube for me, I need a good laugh. You really need to leave this perfect little world you've constructed where everyone is good, looks out for each other, and the police and teachers, etc go have "a good little talking to" to everyone who is heading down the wrong path, and convinces the misguided to get back on the path of good behavior, because you have "heroically" brought the problem to their attention, which they greatly apriciate. How would we have saved little Jonny with out you?Edit: Where were you to save Timmy!!! rofl!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Atroxide Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Im all for this idea... i hate [cabbage] heels on the internet talking tough because they have anonymity. This is a great idea. The people worried are the weak lamers who like to talk [cabbage] and act tough. If you dont be a flaming [wagon] then who cares if people know your name.What ever you say Kenny (Won't say your last name, as I believe in internet anonymity), and with that I know your last name, your address, your phone-number, your parents names (and if I cared more, their information too), your other usernames, your interests, and what communities you are apart of. it took me 30 minutes to research it all, and to connect you to your other usernames which lead to you. I could make your life extremely difficult. I could have *tons* of [cabbage] delivered to your house, I could take out purchases orders in your name that would leave you in debt. I could harass you for years, all without exposing myself, and all it took was 30 minutes to research it all. Now imagine if this post you had made had your first and last name, that would change that 30 minutes into 5 minutes. The ability for me to quickly and easily screw you over would be worth it for some angry person that you make mad on a forum. He wouldn't even have to work for 30 minutes, he already has a big part of your information...... just 5 minutes and you are being sent 20 pizzas for "your" party. Now do you understand why Real ID is a bad idea? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Im all for this idea... i hate [cabbage] heels on the internet talking tough because they have anonymity. This is a great idea. The people worried are the weak lamers who like to talk [cabbage] and act tough. If you dont be a flaming [wagon] then who cares if people know your name.What ever you say Kenny (Won't say your last name, as I believe in internet anonymity), and with that I know your last name, your address, your phone-number, your parents names (and if I cared more, their information too), your other usernames, your interests, and what communities you are apart of. it took me 30 minutes to research it all, and to connect you to your other usernames which lead to you. I could make your life extremely difficult. I could have *tons* of [cabbage] delivered to your house, I could take out purchases orders in your name that would leave you in debt. I could harass you for years, all without exposing myself, and all it took was 30 minutes to research it all. Now imagine if this post you had made had your first and last name, that would change that 30 minutes into 5 minutes. The ability for me to quickly and easily screw you over would be worth it for some angry person that you make mad on a forum. He wouldn't even have to work for 30 minutes, he already has a big part of your information...... just 5 minutes and you are being sent 20 pizzas for "your" party. Now do you understand why Real ID is a bad idea? Pizzas are only the tip of the iceberg, 4Chan has proven that personal information should be closely guarded on the internet. I mean, if you look at some of the raids, it is really horrible what happens to people. Enough provoking goes on in a forum that taking away anonymity makes everyone vulnerable and a target. Imagine all the times you've pissed people off on the internet. Now imagine they had the power to go on Craigslist and order 'escorts' to your home and then call police. Taking away anonymity makes this possible. PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nifflin Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 delete this post, sorry PM me in game anytime It's a lot easier then that for an idiot to sound smart on the internet. That's exactly what you're doing right now... just saying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pulli23 Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 You seem to have an inflated idea of what law inforcement is going to do. They have "real" crimes to tend to, they are not going to spend man-hours because some 14 year old is getting threatening phone calls from some other 14 year old. That's just "kids stuff", not something for police to get involved in. And if they do get involved, say the kid is the child of a school board memeber or something, likely it ruins kid B's life, cause they are going to hit him hard and fast, and he will probably be a really hardened criminal when he gets out of juvie when he's 21. There is no middle ground. And it wont matter what age the people are because its in conection with a "game" which means it's not serious and the police will immediatly scoff it off as childishness. Gaming, after all, is not the adult pasttime of drinking beer and taking pop-shots at the cans. Well the first course of action -if it happens through kids- is for the parents to take contact with the other parents.. Then the other parents should give their child a stern look and it ought to be over! If that doesn't work, the parent of the offended kid should take it to the school, which should take action (maybe add a theme about social interactions to the course), if all that won't work, there is apparantly something much more problematic with the offending kid. (not listening to school & parents, isn't really bright) and some other organization specialized for these types of kids should be mobilized!And don't say me this is a lot of work: most of it goes automatically and really how often do you expect this to happen? A) You have to know who is doing itB) my child is a little angel and would never do such a thing, you horible horible man!!! how do you know my kid!! are you luring him into chat rooms! i'm calling the cops, you pervertC) uh, what if the stalker is a 65 year old man?D) Hahahah!! schools cant even admit to a non-costodial parent that a child even goes to a school. You try telling a school to do something about something that they have no proof of, and happened outside of school. They are far too busy to listen to every nut that calls up and says " you should say something to little jonny, he's theatening me over what we did last night in WOW" They will call the police on you, for even calling up and mentioning a kid and you will have your life torn apart for any sign of impropriaty with minors. This one I really do promise! Anyone who calls up about a kid they have no business knowing about is looked at with suspicion. But seriously, if you try that last one, please post it on youtube for me, I need a good laugh. You really need to leave this perfect little world you've constructed where everyone is good, looks out for each other, and the police and teachers, etc go have "a good little talking to" to everyone who is heading down the wrong path, and convinces the misguided to get back on the path of good behavior, because you have "heroically" brought the problem to their attention, which they greatly apriciate. How would we have saved little Jonny with out you?Edit: Where were you to save Timmy!!! rofl!!!I'm not sure where you live.. But these course of actions nowadays happens frequently here in the netherlands for taunts through MSN & other social media! - There is even build a specific department at the police for specifically this! (electronic taunts by children) First they came to fishingand I didn't speak out because I wasn't fishing Then they came to the yewsand I didn't speak out because I didn't cut yews Then they came for the oresand I didn't speak out because I didn't collect ores Then they came for meand there was no one left to speak out for me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 I'm not sure where you live.. But these course of actions nowadays happens frequently here in the netherlands for taunts through MSN & other social media! - There is even build a specific department at the police for specifically this! (electronic taunts by children) Even with a thousand special departments (it's fairly small btw) this wouldn't work across borders or continents. For Dutch players, most of the players they meet will be from outside the country. Consequently, most of the harrasment will be from outside the country, maybe more so. Without fear of getting caught, these angry pvpers could send their spam forever. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golvellius Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Blizzard forums are full of asshats. They have THE WORST COMMUNITY of any online game.The only new connections going on are going to be criminal.Never posting or playing that game again. :idea: Exclusive Legacy Mode Player He just successfully trolled you with "courtesy" and managed to get a reaction out of you. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mugunge Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 They have recently announced that they arent going to implement this change anyway, based on feedback from their community. Source Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zepheras Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 They have recently announced that they arent going to implement this change anyway, based on feedback from their community. Source And this is where Jagex decides that "We want to outdo team Blizzard. Let's implement it!" \:D/ "Do you really want to go back to the time when Falador was grey, lesser demon look like goats, dragons look like cows, hellhound look like cats and your character stands as stiff as a statue?" -F1775 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Emmentail Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Why would you be logging into RSOF anyway? The place is a dive. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WolfieMario Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Jagex would never implement it so long as they still cater to the ten-year-olds and people get muted for saying their name/age/whatever in-game. Besides, it honestly wouldn't improve RSOF or get rid of trolls at all - even with your name, address, and face on the internet, you can effectively remain anonymous. You'd just be one [wagon] in the millions, and nobody will ever use the info to find you, spend money traveling, and actually bother to do anything to you irl, because it wouldn't be worth it in the long run - there are too many trolls, so knowing where they live won't help anyone stop them. If anyone's interested as to why public names (and with the use of certain free websites, public addresses and phone numbers as well) would have little impact on the hordes of trolls at RSOF, consider how/why trolls operate in the first place:Such a decision would have little impact on people trolling, and it would have a more severe impact on normal people (specifically those who do give their real names, unlike trolls, who probably habitually give false names even when it's not necessary). It won't improve human interfacing over the internet, because that isn't even the root of the problems with human relations over the web - the fact that we communicate via raw text with the occasional BBCode and emoticon, but cannot express body movements, facial expressions, or tone of voice is. Obviously the internet will be staying that way, and even several large social networking sites requiring webcamµphone usage will never change that. But the idea that a name will honestly make people worry that much about respecting others as real people over the internet is laughable. Name or not, subconsciously we'd all think of them as raw text first and people second - it's just a tragic flaw between the human mind and the internet. If you were to go out and have a conversation with a complete stranger and found that you two have some things in common, you'd find yourself enjoying that real-life conversation far more than than you would an IM conversation with a dear e-friend, regardless of whose name you do or don't know. I can honestly say that by far I prefer to converse with my real-life friends in real life than over the internet or via phone, but hell, even phone's a richer medium of conversation than the internet. I can see what Blizzard hoped for, but even if they did instate the policy, it wouldn't improve the quality of conversation on their forums - people would still subconsciously see each other as text, and the only difference is now they have to worry about whether someone who knows them irl is reading their posts or if some stalker uses that name with one of those free info-finding sites and now knows where they live or will start calling them up at odd hours of the night and breathing creepily. Basically, such a change wouldn't reduce the number of people being rude or trolling, it would only drive away the few normal people there. Anyways, as I said, Jagex won't ever instate such a system either, because they know just how many people would protest and revoke membership, and it's no use trying to even consider one of your competitor's epic failures :rolleyes:I am David D Davidson, prove im notWhatever you say, Stephen :rolleyes: Fake Awards:(The large number is the amount of awards I have gotten; only 8 are shown above. Click to see all of them.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexek Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 The ability to hunt down and beat the living [cabbage] out of someone who calls you down. :thumbup: PoetryIndexed Picture 1Indexed Picture 2 Killed my maxed Zerker pure April 2010 Rebooting Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt_Marche Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 No problem for me. I use my real name for those reasons already. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guthorm Posted July 9, 2010 Share Posted July 9, 2010 Blizzard decided to make RealId optional which is obviously expected. There is no way the system can be implemented without huge negative PR. The question here remains now why the hell did they want this in the first place. [Guild Wars 2-In game screenshot, the MMORPG you are waiting for. Click for thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakdragon39 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Umm... you know in the news when you hear about kids who have KILLED themselves over these games? (Go look at Off-Topic, perhaps, I've seen posts there.) Whose to say there won't be people who will kill OTHERS? I can't see how ANYONE thinks this is a good idea, it's absolutely ridiculous!! Maybe killing is a little extreme, but anyone could go find anyone else and harass them, whether they have a reason or not! Just because you "behave well" and have "common sense" on the forums doesn't mean the crazy kid is going to decide you aren't worth the fun. Dangerous, stupid, I can't wait until Blizzard gets sued and realises what a terrible idea it was. EDIT: I read a link someone posted on page 3 or 4, and I'm very glad to hear that the idea has been removed, or changed or whatever. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slickmovedud Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Blizzard has backed down with the whole issue in case people are wondering. It isn't happeaning. Link here.\ No it's not a dangerous link, it's a link to BBC News for those of you who are worried. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wioneo Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I am David D Davidson, prove im not This is what I would expect to happen.No way in hell would I let anyone know my real name. They might be able to somehow prove that I play runescape to actual people! EDIT: On the other hand, increased accountability is always a good thing in my eyes. I would just preferr it to be a one ways street, as in I don't even slightly care what internet people know, but actual friends/family need to be kept in the dark. EDIT:: Bit disappointed to see that they wussed out. Not that I actually care either way, but wussing out in general is to be avoid. I don't care if I said I would eat a sasquatch, If you say you will do something, should have the balls to do it. Barrows: 9~2 V Brass,V Flail,2 Dh Plate,V Helm,V Skirt,T Legs,Malevolent Shield + DKing: 48~6 W Ring,13 A Ring,8 M Staff,9 S Ring,7 B Ring,3 SeercullDragon Drops: 500+~50+ Med,26 Axe,3 Chain,10+ Legs,10+ Spear,2 D2h,10+ L Half,49 Boots,2 DDs,10+ Lump,9 Claws,50+ Dagger,14 Visage,50+ Mace,4 Scimitar,7 Hasta,Baxe,50+ Long,30+ Royal,2 Kite,4 Ward,2 Plate,Staff,Hammer,Limbs, Mattock,HalberdGWD: 156~4 S Staff,50+ Shard,9 B Tass,13 B Plate,5 B Boots,6 A Plate,11 S Sword,8 A Hilt,4 A Skirt,9 A Helm,S Hilt,3 B Hilt,B Glove,2 A Buckler,Z Ward,Z Garb,2 Z Boots,B Shield,B Helm Corp: 3~Elysian,2 Sp Sh + Nex: 6~Torva Legs,Cere,P cowl,Z bow,2 T boots + GWD2: 9~2 Glaive,Wand,2 Crest,Blade,2 Essence,Core + Araxyte: 5~Web,3 Pheromone,Fang + Raids: 4~3 Codex,P Boots + Trails: 2~Bob Shirt,Fortunate Etc: 64~3 Sceptre,B Mask,16 Whip,2 Focus Sight,5 D Bow,7 SOL,Ragefire,2 Steadfast,Arma Staff,6 Rider Armor,5 Vine,2 Razorback,2 A Wand,Abby Orb,3 Blood Shard,6 Hydrix,Gland,Asc Xbow [spoiler=Capes]Quest Cape Aquired 12-7-07 ~ Level 93 + + + Completionist Cape Aquired 5-22-15 ~ Level 138Hitpoints Cape Aquired 9-21-09 ~ Level 131 + Magic Cape Aquired 9-24-09 + Attack Cape Aquired 3-5-10 ~ Level 135 + Summoning Cape Aquired 3-12-10Strength Cape Aquired 6-1-11 ~ Level 137 + Fire Cape Aquired 6-23-11 + Defence Cape Aquired 7-5-11 + Ranged Cape Aquired 8-1-11 + Kiln Cape Aquired 2-26-12 ~ Level 138Dungeoneering Cape Aquired 4-22-12 + Slayer Cape Aquired 6-25-14 ~ Level 200 + Herblore Cape Acquired 12-9-14 ~ Level 138 + Prayer Cape Acquired 12-20-14Agility Cape Acquired 1-4-15 + Hunter Cape Acquired 1-30-15 + Construction Cape Acquired 1-31-15 + Crafting Cape Acquired 2-22-15 + Thieving Cape Acquired 3-18-15Runecrafting Cape Acquired 4-14-15 + Mining Cape Acquired 4-19-15 + Fishing Cape Acquired 4-25-15 + Firemaking Cape Acquired 4-26-15 + Woodcutting Cape Acquired 4-26-15Cooking Cape Acquired 4-26-15+ Smithing Cape Acquired 4-28-15 + Farming Cape Acquired 4-29-15 + Divination Cape Acquired 5-3-15 + Dungeoneering Mastery 5-4-15Fletching Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Max Cape Acquired 5-4-15 + Invention Cape Acquired 11-9-16 + Invention Mastery 5-16-19 + Archaeology Cape Acquired 10-30-20 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gspbeetle Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 I am using my real name anyway, 9 years ago I was not even 13 when this account was created. However, the name itself doesnt really mean anything to strangers unless you know me in person or I have become rich and famous. Oh well, we can find out someone's real name anyway if we know one's email and some of one's friends have betrayed him by using facebook. In the internet, facebook searches YOU! For wow, you dont really need to send your copy of your ID for recovery, unless it is something else you are after, all they ask for is recalling whatever you type for ID and name. Examine ChenGMT (level: 138) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
J35u5_M4 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/technology/8806623.stm What EDIT: Oh, sorry, didn't notice someone else posted the link already :thumbdown: Anyways, I support they wussing out, people should be able to be their true selves on the internet without being afraid of the consequences, as my friend would say, "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person, give him a mask and he'll tell you the truth" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big_Stingman Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 http://news.bbc.co.u...ogy/8806623.stm What EDIT: Oh, sorry, didn't notice someone else posted the link already :thumbdown: Anyways, I support they wussing out, people should be able to be their true selves on the internet without being afraid of the consequences, as my friend would say, "Man is least himself when he talks in his own person, give him a mask and he'll tell you the truth" QFT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Who says they are gonna post on the forum?if they changed everyones name to thier rl name wouldnt anything they previously posted show as thier rl name in that case........u can find alot of them on highlvl forums ;p i wouldnt like it to happen =p i ask my rs friends to facebook me sometimes but not everyone should know real life nname Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unb34t4bl3 Posted July 10, 2010 Share Posted July 10, 2010 Bad idea. Not sure why Blizzard did that in the first place - but it was stupid. FairTraders.net (Merchant Guides + Grand Exchange Update Notifier)Get FREE Grand Exchange updates through the website, by email, or through your mobile device! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Diggumup Posted July 11, 2010 Share Posted July 11, 2010 Anon will conquer all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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