The surgebox doesn't count as a shield, so don't use tank ring with it (from mod Chris L on HLF). Also from my experience you end up taking less damage using gatherer/artisan ring while keying.

 

Really? Oh I might get my P2H back then. I haven't tried keying yet with my T7 Gatherer. But I think skill door fail damage can be negated easily with the GS/GGS trick, no? Or is that not very practical for a keyer?

Considering the keyer might want to keep a door gated, it wouldn't be very practical, I think.

Considering the keyer might want to keep a door gated, it wouldn't be very practical, I think.

They can use the Group tele

But the GGS will almost always be at a GD.

 

Still looking for a more perm team :mellow:

What the hell has happened to world 148? It's just like world 117 now where everybody quits when they die and everything... damn it I'm so sick of that world. And I can't find a permanent team because I have a T9 2h because of my 85 Attack. For crying out loud...

^ You 2 should join my team ;-)

We should get a few trusted people to maintain a list of good dungers.

We should get a few trusted people to maintain a list of good dungers.

I vote lalala, he's level minded when it comes to these matters, unlike myself and many others.

Didn't you used to run a topic in H&A for dung teams?

Didn't you used to run a topic in H&A for dung teams?

impressionist is running one right now

I ran one back when dung was fresh, but that thread's pretty much dead now.

 

There's a few people around TIF who want toget some good dung teams built up.

Lala is good

I wouldn't mind dging with tifers.........................

I'm always up for good teams too.

 

I think w148 is not too bad if you're a bit picky about who you pick, but of course, that means you have to wait longer to get teams. I've been nolifing dg today in w 148 and never had ragequitters. Also add people that were good, that really helps.

How can you be picky about who you pick.

I always take 90+ only, and they all suck.

I always ask for hooded only, half of them lie.

I think this last page answers the question posed at the thread's beginning:

The best way to teach is to perform. If you take people who honestly want to become better with you and teach them the things that aren't so obvious, they will get better.

 

Having said that, I woud like to go with you if any of you proclaimed PDGers were willing to do the above.

 

 

Also, Ancient, I was reading your guide for non-keyers and there you said that non-keyers should create healer familiars rather than bloodragers... I'm not sure if that was put there intentionally or not... :unsure:

I think this last page answers the question posed at the thread's beginning:

The best way to teach is to perform. If you take people who honestly want to become better with you and teach them the things that aren't so obvious, they will get better.

 

Having said that, I woud like to go with you if any of you proclaimed PDGers were willing to do the above.

 

 

Also, Ancient, I was reading your guide for non-keyers and there you said that non-keyers should create healer familiars rather than bloodragers... I'm not sure if that was put there intentionally or not... :unsure:

Doesn't ancient have two dungeoneering guides now?

I know one of them is definitely outdated. It was released when most people including myself were still 50-70 ish dungeoneering.

I don't profess to be a "pro" DGer but I'm willing to share what I know and do some floors with a few tifers. After all, guides can only do so much. My Private chat will be on.

We should get a few trusted people to maintain a list of good dungers.

I vote lalala, he's level minded when it comes to these matters, unlike myself and many others.

 

i would be we all know im bias

We should get a few trusted people to maintain a list of good dungers.

I vote lalala, he's level minded when it comes to these matters, unlike myself and many others.

 

i would be we all know im bias

 

Getting a good "list" of dg'ers is a bad idea. Anyone not on that list will feel like they're crap, or are better than the next person rates them.

Dg with someone, you know how good they are, no need to put them on paper, i could name 10ish good dg'ers from tif, and about 50 bad ones

Not gonna list them though.

Getting a good "list" of dg'ers is a bad idea. Anyone not on that list will feel like they're crap, or are better than the next person rates them.

Dg with someone, you know how good they are, no need to put them on paper, i could name 10ish good dg'ers from tif, and about 50 bad ones

Not gonna list them though.

I can make a list for free play too, if you like or if that's even necessary.

 

I do feel that Tip.It should have their own dungeoneering cc's. I actually used to have one, but ever since I found an even better perm team I sorta quit it...

 

Still, it would be quite a help.

yeah my guide is very outdated.been to lazy to edit though I should

We should get a few trusted people to maintain a list of good dungers.

I vote lalala, he's level minded when it comes to these matters, unlike myself and many others.

 

i would be we all know im bias

 

Getting a good "list" of dg'ers is a bad idea. Anyone not on that list will feel like they're crap, or are better than the next person rates them.

Dg with someone, you know how good they are, no need to put them on paper, i could name 10ish good dg'ers from tif, and about 50 bad ones

Not gonna list them though.

that's a good point.

the ultimate goal isn't so much to distinguish good players from bad players, which might be what a list would imply.

The goal is to find other good players you may not have met yet.

I would love to dg with TIFers. Oh wait, no hood and I'm f2p. <_< But when I get a hood and I can start playing more often, I'd love to do that. How could we organize a TIF Dungeoneering "clan"?

We make elaborate clan structures with leaders and sub-leaders and secretaries.. /sarcasm

 

IMO it should be simple. Just list the facts, levels, binds, preferences (hardcore rush or not, what c1s etc.).