11-Dec-2012 - Player-Owned Ports

[Saradomin_Mage]

Captains:

Pure Moral - 4 moral Traits

Moral Seafaring - Moral based captain - 4 seafaring traits

Pure Combat - 4 Combat Traits

Pure Seafaring - 4 Seafaring Traits

Seafaring Combat - Seafaring Captain - 2-4 Combat Traits 0-2 Seafaring traits.

 

Crew:

3 Jade Merchants

4 Ox Head

3 Judge of the Dice

5 Combat

5 Moral

5 Seafaring

 

Also, got lucky on a 60% mission

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[jayc3399]

Captains:

Pure Moral - 4 moral Traits

Moral Seafaring - Moral based captain - 4 seafaring traits

Pure Combat - 4 Combat Traits

Pure Seafaring - 4 Seafaring Traits

Seafaring Combat - Seafaring Captain - 2-4 Combat Traits 0-2 Seafaring traits.

 

Crew:

3 Jade Merchants

4 Ox Head

3 Judge of the Dice

5 Combat

5 Moral

5 Seafaring

 

Also, got lucky on a 60% mission

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Thank you, on top of this I've considered going 5 oxheads and cutting one moral crew.

[oliboli1992]

Captains:

Pure Moral - 4 moral Traits

Moral Seafaring - Moral based captain - 4 seafaring traits

Pure Combat - 4 Combat Traits

Pure Seafaring - 4 Seafaring Traits

Seafaring Combat - Seafaring Captain - 2-4 Combat Traits 0-2 Seafaring traits.

 

Crew:

3 Jade Merchants

4 Ox Head

3 Judge of the Dice

5 Combat

5 Moral

5 Seafaring

 

Also, got lucky on a 60% mission

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Thank you, on top of this I've considered going 5 oxheads and cutting one moral crew.

 

Thank you very much to both of you for providing that information, wouldn't it depend on luck if you managed to get a captain with those specific traits and roll those specific traits voyages? Would that be too much effort than just getting one captain of each with various traits, i can't see the traits contributing more then 1 or 2% to the overall mission success?

 

Just a simple yes or no will do =)

[jayc3399]

Captains:

Pure Moral - 4 moral Traits

Moral Seafaring - Moral based captain - 4 seafaring traits

Pure Combat - 4 Combat Traits

Pure Seafaring - 4 Seafaring Traits

Seafaring Combat - Seafaring Captain - 2-4 Combat Traits 0-2 Seafaring traits.

 

Crew:

3 Jade Merchants

4 Ox Head

3 Judge of the Dice

5 Combat

5 Moral

5 Seafaring

 

Also, got lucky on a 60% mission

[hide][/hide]

 

Thank you, on top of this I've considered going 5 oxheads and cutting one moral crew.

 

Thank you very much to both of you for providing that information, wouldn't it depend on luck if you managed to get a captain with those specific traits and roll those specific traits voyages? Would that be too much effort than just getting one captain of each with various traits, i can't see the traits contributing more then 1 or 2% to the overall mission success?

 

Just a simple yes or no will do =)

 

My other post had the stipulation that you not likely to get those captains but was a general idea to aim for.

[Platinum_Myr]

That is ideal but probably not worth the effort to get it that way...

[Yoko Kurama]

4 Oxheads, is that not excessive?

[Thus]

4 Oxheads, is that not excessive?

It's not. 4 is good endgame. Also have 4 JoD

[jayc3399]

4 Oxheads, is that not excessive?

It's not. 4 is good endgame. Also have 4 JoD

 

4 oxheads is good because 4/7 voyages are multi stat. 4 jod is a waste because your likely to have a single stat unless you keep rerolling for only multi stats, in which case you'd likely want even more oxheads.

[Thus]

4 Oxheads, is that not excessive?

It's not. 4 is good endgame. Also have 4 JoD

 

4 oxheads is good because 4/7 voyages are multi stat. 4 jod is a waste because your likely to have a single stat unless you keep rerolling for only multi stats, in which case you'd likely want even more oxheads.

There are a lot of dual stat voyages in Pincers. For those, you have JoD

[jayc3399]

4 Oxheads, is that not excessive?

It's not. 4 is good endgame. Also have 4 JoD

 

4 oxheads is good because 4/7 voyages are multi stat. 4 jod is a waste because your likely to have a single stat unless you keep rerolling for only multi stats, in which case you'd likely want even more oxheads.

There are a lot of dual stat voyages in Pincers. For those, you have JoD

 

3 JoD should cover those.

[God Of Lego]

Small question, in the last region do trade good come up more often? concidering theres very little use for other items like jade once all upgrades and crew have been bought.

[So Rowdy]

From my experience of 3 days or so in the pincers, trade goods do show up pretty frequently

[Celery n Corn]

Couple quick questions, sorry if they've already been covered.

 

Regarding the bar upgrades. Currently I have the refurbished bar which is 5% higher quality captain and 3% adventurer I noticed none of the Jade upgrades offer a higher % morale captain but one does offer another 5% higher quality captain. Is this on top of the 5% cherrywood so 10% in total?

 

I already have a 10k chime captain for combat, speed and seafaring I need a 10k morale captain :(

[Sy_Accursed]

morale is in the steel bar iirc

[Quyneax]

One bar boosts morale/combat the other seafaring/speed right? And one boosts adventurers. There's no steel bar (if you mean bar built with steel).

[Sy_Accursed]

One bar boosts morale/combat the other seafaring/speed right? And one boosts adventurers. There's no steel bar (if you mean bar built with steel).

 

Thats what I was thinking of! Got my self muddled.

[Platinum_Myr]

4 Oxheads, is that not excessive?

It's not. 4 is good endgame. Also have 4 JoD

 

4 oxheads is good because 4/7 voyages are multi stat. 4 jod is a waste because your likely to have a single stat unless you keep rerolling for only multi stats, in which case you'd likely want even more oxheads.

There are a lot of dual stat voyages in Pincers. For those, you have JoD

 

3 JoD should cover those.

 

For any dual or triple voyage, JoD + Ox + 1 of each Crew + Merchant is better than JoD + 3x crew of types + Merchant, because the Ox counts for an additional solidarity for the dual stat, and has higher base for the triple.

 

Having same number of JoD + Ox is good, I don't think 4 Ox is necessary unless ALL voyages are doubles.

[chenw]

Happy Runedate 4000!

[jayc3399]

So just got back the whaler pincers mission. Base is 100 spice, I put a merchant on that makes 130. I have 4 jade statues and got 135 spice. How much does that make each one worth? Lol

[JeRambo]

For any dual or triple voyage, JoD + Ox + 1 of each Crew + Merchant is better than JoD + 3x crew of types + Merchant, because the Ox counts for an additional solidarity for the dual stat, and has higher base for the triple.

 

Having same number of JoD + Ox is good, I don't think 4 Ox is necessary unless ALL voyages are doubles.

How do you get 6 crew members on one ship? :).

 

From my experience of 3 days or so in the pincers, trade goods do show up pretty frequently

Same here. Quite a few more trade good missions.

 

So just got back the whaler pincers mission. Base is 100 spice, I put a merchant on that makes 130. I have 4 jade statues and got 135 spice. How much does that make each one worth? Lol

1%? Lol.

[Unknown_Warrior]

So just got back the whaler pincers mission. Base is 100 spice, I put a merchant on that makes 130. I have 4 jade statues and got 135 spice. How much does that make each one worth? Lol

 

((((Base x Jade Totem) x Jade totem) x Jade totem) x Jade Totem) x Jade Merchant

Each totem is 1% bonus, each step is multiplied and rounded down, that comes to 104

104 * 1.3 = 135.2, rounded down to 135.

 

Hope the totems were worth it for ya!

PS: Still thanks for the research, sincerely. At least we now know totems are applied before merchants.

[jayc3399]

So just got back the whaler pincers mission. Base is 100 spice, I put a merchant on that makes 130. I have 4 jade statues and got 135 spice. How much does that make each one worth? Lol

 

((((Base x Jade Totem) x Jade totem) x Jade totem) x Jade Totem) x Jade Merchant

Or basically, 104 * 1.3 = 135.2, rounded down to 135.

 

Hope the totems were worth it for ya!

 

Seeing it written out like that made me realize it doesn't matter the order.

 

1*2*3*4*5 = 120

5*4*3*2*1 = 120

[Unknown_Warrior]

So just got back the whaler pincers mission. Base is 100 spice, I put a merchant on that makes 130. I have 4 jade statues and got 135 spice. How much does that make each one worth? Lol

 

((((Base x Jade Totem) x Jade totem) x Jade totem) x Jade Totem) x Jade Merchant

Or basically, 104 * 1.3 = 135.2, rounded down to 135.

 

Hope the totems were worth it for ya!

 

Seeing it written out like that made me realize it doesn't matter the order.

 

1*2*3*4*5 = 120

5*4*3*2*1 = 120

 

Edited my post before you posted that.

But yeah, it rounds down after every multiplication before applying the next.

So, literally, the only use those statues have is for that one single 100 spice mission because 1% rounded down only creates a new value for >=100 good missions.

 

It's awful design, and I have to wonder what Jagex was smoking when they thought it out.

[jayc3399]

So just got back the whaler pincers mission. Base is 100 spice, I put a merchant on that makes 130. I have 4 jade statues and got 135 spice. How much does that make each one worth? Lol

 

((((Base x Jade Totem) x Jade totem) x Jade totem) x Jade Totem) x Jade Merchant

Or basically, 104 * 1.3 = 135.2, rounded down to 135.

 

Hope the totems were worth it for ya!

 

Seeing it written out like that made me realize it doesn't matter the order.

 

1*2*3*4*5 = 120

5*4*3*2*1 = 120

 

Edited my post before you posted that.

But yeah, it rounds down after every multiplication before applying the next.

So, literally, the only use those statues have is for that one single 100 spice mission because 1% rounded down only creates a new value for >=100 good missions.

 

It's awful design, and I have to wonder what Jagex was smoking when they thought it out.

 

Was under the impression they were planning to fix them.

 

If not guess I will grind more jade for scroll totems.

 

[Saradomin_Mage]

So just got back the whaler pincers mission. Base is 100 spice, I put a merchant on that makes 130. I have 4 jade statues and got 135 spice. How much does that make each one worth? Lol

 

((((Base x Jade Totem) x Jade totem) x Jade totem) x Jade Totem) x Jade Merchant

Or basically, 104 * 1.3 = 135.2, rounded down to 135.

 

Hope the totems were worth it for ya!

 

Seeing it written out like that made me realize it doesn't matter the order.

 

1*2*3*4*5 = 120

5*4*3*2*1 = 120

 

Edited my post before you posted that.

But yeah, it rounds down after every multiplication before applying the next.

So, literally, the only use those statues have is for that one single 100 spice mission because 1% rounded down only creates a new value for >=100 good missions.

 

It's awful design, and I have to wonder what Jagex was smoking when they thought it out.

 

Was under the impression they were planning to fix them.

 

If not guess I will grind more jade for scroll totems.

As far as I know someone reported the jade statues boosting their reward from the Pincers stories by 1 (25 -> 26), so they probably stack?