Combat Improvements / Beta

[Quorra]

http://services.runescape.com/m=news/combat-improvements-beta

 

http://www.runescape.com/beta/combat

 

Is your body ready?

[Ambler]

Posted this on update teasers thread already, feel free to copy/paste it over here as it has more detail :P

 

Overall though, YES YES YES this is amazing.

[Rohanonrs]

brb going tds.

[Jon Arcane]

Guess this was the announcement I got told about, very nice! Will have to have a little play with it :)

[Sy_Accursed]

I like it all though I'm an entirely indifferent to specials.

 

With the tiering it makes next to no difference that they are back and compared to abilities a lot of them aren't that good; just seems like jagex's easy way to make whiners who are obsessed with specials stfu without any real impact to the game.

[inner fears]

PvP buffs?  ( not this sh*t again.jpeg ) ...

 

 

 

only looknig forward to momentus plus, sounds promising ... hopefully not ruined

 

lol at claws / AGS street ... merchbots back in 2 hours?

[Sy_Accursed]

I'm surprised by how many people are so excited at momentum plus when it's kinda useless compared to revolution.

 

Autoattacks even boosted by momentum are less dps than abilites.

 

Momentum is still auto attacks with random basics mixed in and the option to use ults and specials without killing it. (With ults being largely useless this is still rather meh)

Revolution is all basics firing off with no autoattacks thus offering greater dps and lower ammo usage AND it lets you use thresholds, ults and specials. (With thresholds being awesome for damage this is winning)

 

Heck even if you are like oh I don't know eoc I can't make a bar for rev it's kinda easy:

1) Help forums like here we could give you a good bar very easily then all you gotta do is build it.

2) Jagex made preset bars so now you don't even have to try making a bar if you don't want too.

[Ammako]

I like it all though I'm an entirely indifferent to specials.

 

With the tiering it makes next to no difference that they are back and compared to abilities a lot of them aren't that good; just seems like jagex's easy way to make whiners who are obsessed with specials stfu without any real impact to the game.

If it works at making people stfu, then that's a good thing IMO.

[brunokiller]

It's all getting balanced, relax guys.

 

I've been missing this...

 

 

Now we need capes flapping when holding a 2h =P~

[Ammako]

The fun part is that people are going to be scrambling to buy Dragon claws, but they'll probably still have shit accuracy compared to Drygores.

 

At least I bought mine yesterday, so I didn't have to pay much for my Chaotics.

[Kimberly]

I don't see the point of presets unless they're presets we could set and name under the gear ribbon. And even then, that wouldn't really be as useful as just adding more actionbars. I love that they did ability queuing. What a shame we have to wait until it comes out in order to see it in the live game.

 

The special attacks are just like special thresholds. I don't really see the point in them yet, but maybe that's because I haven't tried them in PVP. The removal of weapon switching cooldowns is pretty neat though.

[Nobody]

The fun part is that people are going to be scrambling to buy Dragon claws, but they'll probably still have shit accuracy compared to Drygores.

 

At least I bought mine yesterday, so I didn't have to pay much for my Chaotics.

 

Which makes sense since Dragon is T60 and Drygore is T90 :P

[brunokiller]

I don't see the point of presets unless they're presets we could set and name under the gear ribbon. And even then, that wouldn't really be as useful as just adding more actionbars. I love that they did ability queuing. What a shame we have to wait until it comes out in order to see it in the live game.

 

The special attacks are just like special thresholds. I don't really see the point in them yet, but maybe that's because I haven't tried them in PVP. The removal of weapon switching cooldowns is pretty neat though.

 

The presets are intended for newbies.

 

Removal of gear switching cooldowns should give hybrid armour some use if armour switch cd's are still enforced.

[michel555555]

can they at least tie specials to a weapon type instead of just the dragon varrient. ie all maces bronze - drygore getting the shatter ability. at least then there will be some varriety to choose from instead of everyone and their mother claw rushing again.

[God Of Lego]

Finaly a step forward, but they still need to take a few steps back.

[Yoko Kurama]

All I can say is finally. I have been screaming about this for a year. It should have been here from the start, since everyone could see there were quite a few things that needed ironing out in EoC which Jagex just ignored and pretended as if everything was fine. A lot of people might not have left if they had pursued this from the start.

[V O R K]

\:D/ happy dance

[Estoc]

Props to Jagex for recognizing a problem and taking action. Didn't think they had it in them.

[Quyneax]

I'm not impressed at the fixes. Instead of making in-depth fixes, they're just adding a bunch more abilities. There are no new mechanics, no interesting things whatsoever. It's the typical Jagex unimaginative update coated with a load of 'we listened to you' nonsense.

[stealthchris117]

So, how exactly is Revolution different from Momentum Plus? It seems the sold the same problem, momentum didn't give adrenaline.

 

I understand Revolution allows you to automate abilities and Momentum Plus doesn't not.

But really it seems like two different solutions to the same problem and they will be so similar it seems only one would be needed.

 

Perhaps I need to play with them in the Beta to understand.

[sees_all1]

Maybe F2P pvp anything won't suck against range now.

[Saradomin_Mage]

Revolution basically uses your basic abilities for you without your input. You then trigger your thresholds and ultimates manually. It's basically ability damage output with a great deal more afk, and is great for slayer (and probably outshines momentum for everything except barraging).

[Hedgehog]

I'm not impressed at the fixes. Instead of making in-depth fixes, they're just adding a bunch more abilities. There are no new mechanics, no interesting things whatsoever. It's the typical Jagex unimaginative update coated with a load of 'we listened to you' nonsense.

I'm not impressed either. There are several solutions that are better. They need to start listening to people with good ideas :/

[Yoko Kurama]

I'm not impressed at the fixes. Instead of making in-depth fixes, they're just adding a bunch more abilities. There are no new mechanics, no interesting things whatsoever. It's the typical Jagex unimaginative update coated with a load of 'we listened to you' nonsense.

 

I agree that these aren't terribly great solutions. Nothing substantial in fact. I am only slightly optimistic because at least they are finally openly admitting that EoC needs more work (something which they completely ignored for a large portion of last year). Also, the special attacks for weapons are rather useless, but they are a decent compromise. Before EoC, a lot of weapons that were significant lore-wise, historically, from an in-game perspective, had special abilities and EoC made them useless overnight by stripping them of their special abilities, crashing their markets and their sources (like God Wars). This will restore some of those items. There isn't anything useful for higher-levels (as Drygore + Assault will probably easily beat something like AGS switch/special). Ideally, if Adrenaline was the best they could have come up with (ability spamming), then special attacks should have never been removed, but whatever. So there isn't really anything there, but at least it's a small little thing for a few of the old-school pre-EoC people.

 

So yeah, nothing substantial or interesting here, just a very late concession. 

 

I am excited for inventory/equipment pre-slots, but that's about it.

[Miss Lioness]