Sy_Accursed Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 ^ Yeah don't fall into the derp trap of not reading. This poll does NOT include the con rework - it's just a new D&D-esque training method. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Either making runes more valuable or the construction DD... I think both are great ideas I think having random city commission construction jobs that you can help work on with increased build ticks based on job complexity. I think having enriched runes that are occasionally not used when casting spells would be a good concept. They could make it so that if you use a talisman it allows you to create enriched runes. Talismans could be given charges for creating these types of runes. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Because last time they tried introducing talisman into the rc process it was uber popular managing to create 6 runes that basically never get used, aside from mud runes since they are a herblore second. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steph Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Skilling boss for unique new content [2:21:46 PM] Baldvin | Leik: these comp reqs are so bad [2:22:36 PM] Arceus Dark: Time to get...req'd? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Because last time they tried introducing talisman into the rc process it was uber popular managing to create 6 runes that basically never get used, aside from mud runes since they are a herblore second.Well face it talismans are quite useless in runecrafting. They should do a rocktail soup like variant to runes. They can create regular, imbued (tradable), and enriched (untradable) runes. Imbued can have a 10% rune saving rate. Enriched could have a bonus 0.1% critical. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Another upcoming poll... Task Set ItemRubyAfter the launch of the Elf City, we plan to release an Elf City task set. This will include a task set reward, but what benefits should the item give you? The top 3 will be included in the final release The top 3 options will winBountiful fruit treesGreater yields from the Elf Lands fruit tree, and small improvements from other fruit treesCheaper crystal rechargeA cheaper price for recharging crystals, and some other smaller reductions in shop pricesDark Beast buffsGain combat buffs against the dark beasts, and improved dropsElf Land teleportsTeleport easily to various locations around the Elf LandsHunter success improvementsA greater chance of catching pawya and grenwall, and no need for bait in other hunter situationsMore crystal chargesAn increased number of charges on the elf teleport crystals, and additional charges on other itemsTrap ImmunityGain immunity from the traps in the Elf LandsTurn to crystalA cosmetic effect that reverts you to crystal seed, like the Elf City itself Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V O R K Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Shame no option to light it ablaze! The new vote is hard, Except for con all three could be nice and runes are in desperate need of more use. Sway all day, Butterfly flaps all the way! ✿ ♥‿♥) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I wanted a rake trap failure emote both skilling boss and con d&d would take a bunch of development time, but minigame sprucing up shouldn't take as long (given the existing code from earlier special weekends), so i feel like that should be sitting on a backburner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miss Lioness Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Well, when I first read the Diamond poll, there really stood Construction Rework. I read it minutes after posting. It must have been changed since, and probably the Mod who posted it derped themselves. Our deepest fear is not that we are inadequate. Our deepest fear is that we are powerful beyond measure. It is our light, not our darkness that most frightens us. We ask ourselves, 'Who am I to be brilliant, gorgeous, talented, fabulous?' Actually, who are you not to be?~ Marianne Williamson For account help/issues, please follow this link: Account Help. If you need further assistance, do not hesitate to PM me or post here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 I think they are being naive to think legacy will magically create a resurgence in the pvp community. The good solid changes they are implementing to combat as a whole may help stir up interest again, but what is in essence a cosmetic reskin of momentum that just hides the ability bar isn't going to fix anything in terms of usage. I still think it would've been a much tighter result in the polls, even perhaps lost, if they had polled it AFTER revolution and momentum changes had gone live. Plus there's more wrong with pvp than just the combat itself - reward is a big issue - with a more metagame outlook in the community at large are people really gonna go pk enmass for the like 100k or welfare gear people use instead of hunting bosses that make millions an hour? And what can you actually do to make people take better gear into pvp? I dunno to an extent I just feel like by focussing to much on pvp they are flogging a dead horse - that community crumbled and died. Seems to me time would be much better invested in making the safe pvp minigames up to par with eoc so people can enjoy them more again rather than trying to resurrect a community that already left the game. Took the words right out of my article ;) http://www.tip.it/runescape/?times=1143 Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 The good solid changes they are implementing to combat as a whole may help stir up interest again, but what is in essence a cosmetic reskin of momentum that just hides the ability bar isn't going to fix anything in terms of usage. I still think it would've been a much tighter result in the polls, even perhaps lost, if they had polled it AFTER revolution and momentum changes had gone live. Revolution: still uses abilities Momentum: far too weak to be useful This is why I think Legacy mode would be an improvement over both Revolution and Momentum for players who prefer pre-EoC. Granted, they could simply buff Momentum so that it deals the same damage as Legacy mode combat would, while adding a on/off toggle for NIS and it would have done the job as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 The good solid changes they are implementing to combat as a whole may help stir up interest again, but what is in essence a cosmetic reskin of momentum that just hides the ability bar isn't going to fix anything in terms of usage. I still think it would've been a much tighter result in the polls, even perhaps lost, if they had polled it AFTER revolution and momentum changes had gone live. Revolution: still uses abilities Momentum: far too weak to be useful This is why I think Legacy mode would be an improvement over both Revolution and Momentum for players who prefer pre-EoC. Granted, they could simply buff Momentum so that it deals the same damage as Legacy mode combat would, while adding a on/off toggle for NIS and it would have done the job as well. Players who can't deal with revolution are just, no. You can literally just load a premade bar and then ignore abilities with very little detriment to your dps if you're really that anti-abilities. Sure you can't do top end pvm like this, but they already said legacy mode probably won't be able to either as they won't be able to deal with certain attacks. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Oh, really? Ignoring Thresholds and Ultimates has very little impact on your DPS? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Oh, really? Ignoring Thresholds and Ultimates has very little impact on your DPS?- In context to your survivability... Anything as complex as airuts and up then you might have issues. Glacors and automatons are similar, but fairly legacy-safe. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted May 15, 2014 Share Posted May 15, 2014 Glacors should be interesting... Also have people thought about summoning? ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 That'd be funny if everyone voted for making runes valuable... and in return, Jagex simply removes runes from shops and monster drop tables. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Well, if they started by making abilities use up runes (and arrows/bolts), then runes would instantly become more valuable as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blutters Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Well, if they started by making abilities use up runes (and arrows/bolts), then runes would instantly become more valuable as well.Aaand then we run into the issue of Magic and Ranged costing far more than melee again, and thereby undoing a chunk of the balance between style usability that EOC brought with it.But, then, it seems like they're keen on screwing up a lot of EOC's positives for the sake of nostalgia, anyway, with so many of the changes I've seen on beta... :( 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
helring Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Well, if they started by making abilities use up runes (and arrows/bolts), then runes would instantly become more valuable as well. If they do this then all mellee weapons should degrade and need to use bars for repair R.I.P. The olde nite. A legend is gone but not forgotten. a Faction Related Item Sink for Rune Labs. https://[LikelyScam]/m=player-proposal/a=13/c=VcG-Ir5Ijno/view-idea?idea=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V O R K Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Np they're completely throwing EoC out of the window with beta/legacy nerfs as you say... One step forward, five steps back :( Sway all day, Butterfly flaps all the way! ✿ ♥‿♥) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ambler Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 The current issue is noone making runes, specifically bloods/deaths/fires- But millions are leaving the game every day thanks to Abyss/Dagannoth barragers, so they're now going up...Pure essence is being given out in huge numbers from challenges, decreasing the price and bringing even more into the game... It's basically stuck in a loop.I can't access GE graphs currently, but it's all there. ^^My blog of EoC PvM, lols and Therapy.^^My livestream- Currently: Offline :(Offical Harpy Therapist of the Mad[hide=Lewtations]Barrows drops: Dharok's helm x2, Guthan's helm, Ahrim's top, Hood and skirt, Torag's hammers, Karils skirt, Karil's top, Torag's helm, Verac's skirt, Verac's Flail, Dharok's Platebody.Dag kings drops: Lost count! :wall:4k+ Glacors, 7 Ragefires, 4 Steadfasts, 4 Glaivens, 400+ shards![/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ammako Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Don't need G.E graphs to realize that pure essence often buys at less than 10gp each. :p Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Letting us keep the runes we make in runespan would be a start. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
V O R K Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 I've known enough stakers with max stack of runes. Eh Noty Sway all day, Butterfly flaps all the way! ✿ ♥‿♥) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sylpheed Posted May 16, 2014 Share Posted May 16, 2014 Letting us keep the runes we make in runespan would be a start.If they did that, they may aswell just remove altars altogether and rename Runecrafting to Runespanning. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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