Suicide

[zerosouls]

That sucks, sorry to hear that. I've never knew anyone personally that has commited suicide, but i know that last year a girl in grade 12 i believe killed herself, i don't know why really cause i didn't know her but from my perspective she seemed happy, had a great bunch of friends.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It was a weird day, i felt so odd all day long, thats all i could think about.

[Hobgoblin11]

 

 

I doubt it's that hard to pick up a telephone and call a counselor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I'm sure that going to the yellow pages, picking out the first counsellor, Dr. A. Andrews, ringing them up and pouring out your deepest darkest secrets and woes to a complete stranger is th first thing that occurs to a manically depressed, suicidal person who feels that they have nothing left to live for in the world :roll:

 

 

 

Yeah, basically. Although, I would advise a school counselor. I mean isn't that what they're for?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:uhh: I give up. It is clearly impossible to persuade you to compromise at all on this matter, or to show any kind of sensitivity. Goodnight.

[darkmage099]

 

 

 

I doubt it's that hard to pick up a telephone and call a counselor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yes, I'm sure that going to the yellow pages, picking out the first counsellor, Dr. A. Andrews, ringing them up and pouring out your deepest darkest secrets and woes to a complete stranger is th first thing that occurs to a manically depressed, suicidal person who feels that they have nothing left to live for in the world :roll:

 

 

 

Yeah, basically. Although, I would advise a school counselor. I mean isn't that what they're for?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

:uhh: I give up. It is clearly impossible to persuade you to compromise at all on this matter, or to show any kind of sensitivity. Goodnight.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But it is only 17 past 8! Come on. I seriously don't see what is wrong with going to see a school counselor or a psychiatrist. Do you have something against revealing your secrets to those who you are supposed to?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pretty much I say go to a counselor. You say it's not that easy. I say why?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Let me put it this way: If you are depressed and strong, you will see someone who can help you. If you are depressed and weak, you'll live with the depression, which will most likely result in a baaaad situation.

[zach312]

In Greek mythology, the worst way to die was in committing suicide. Doing this basically was a guaranteed one-way ticket to Tartarus (the Greeks' concept of hell) - no matter how good you were in your life, no matter what you did, if you killed yourself you were sentenced to eternal suffering and pain. It was basically trying to escape the life the Fates had planned for you, henceforth trying to outsmart/run away from the gods' will.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pretty good concept if you ask me.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But no one ever asks me. :uhh:

[Ddrmaster7]

I won't lie, I did think about suicide back in 6th grade (maybe, around there). For reasons I don't want to discuss, I felt like I couldn't deal with the problems I had. I resorted to medication and therapy. I can sypathize with the people who have thought of committing suicide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

There are basically two sides to this discussion: one is that people who commit suicide are weak and cowardly, the other that they have no other choice and truly can't cope.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In the first argument's defense, sometimes people are cowardly. Some people have to run away from their problems instead of facing them head-on (apply directly to the forehead*). Counselors and medication could prevent some suicide attempts from being successful. A weak person might not even try these options, being so pessimistic that he/she feels it is impossible to feel any better. This type of person usually doesn't think about how family members/friends will feel if he or she died.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Sometimes, people truly feel they have no other choice. Going back to the first page, a user posted that he felt suicidal when his father died. This doesn't make him/her a coward. Circumstancial events can lead to suicide in even the strongest of us. Perhaps they have tried the different methods of countering depression, and it hasn't worked.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

In my opinion, both arguments have valid points. It depends on the situation. In some instances, people bottle up their feelings instead of receiving help, and don't think about the dangerous repercussions of suicide. In others, there's a feeling of "no way out". It's not correct to judge, "All people who commit suicide are cowardly," or the other way around. I believe it to be dependant on the situation.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*If you didn't get the joke, go to youtube and search for Head-On.

[zaquierming]

I won't lie, I did think about suicide back in 6th grade (maybe, around there).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That makes me sad. :(

 

 

 

You're a great friend Ddr, thank god you reconcidered.

[Ddrmaster7]

 

I won't lie, I did think about suicide back in 6th grade (maybe, around there).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That makes me sad. :(

 

 

 

You're a great friend Ddr, thank god you reconcidered.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I'm thankful I was able to overcome the problems I had. I'm sticking around for a while, don't worry. ;)

[deloriagod]

 

 

 

Eek. That stinks. Sometimes I think suicide is a way out for the weak.

 

I have to say suicide is the cowards way out.

 

I honestly think that people that commit suicide are selfish.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whilst everyone is entitled to their opinions, you three clearly do not know the first thing about the mindset of someone who commits suicide. It is not just the feeling of wanting to be free, or of sadness, it is the feeling of being completely trapped and not being able to talk to anybody about your problems. Most suicides occur in men, and most of those in young men. This is because young men are the worst at communicating and discussing their problems. They bottle it up until they cannot cope. It is not a matter of being weak, or cowardly or selfish, it is a matter of sheer desperation, something which I doubt you, or many people have experienced.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People used to be prosecuted if they tried to commit suicide and failed, because it was seen as a sin and something that the person ought to be made to pay for. Nowadays the human mind is understood better and physcologists have realised that these people need help, not punishing more. Can't you three take the same view?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I doubt it's that hard to pick up a telephone and call a counselor.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

no offence, but that statement proves that you know nothing about suicide. Its more than just the stupid "selfish" and "cowardly" theories presented previously. Judging by what you've said, you've never looked in the mirror and asked yourself, "why? whats the point?" it takes a lot of courage to kill yourself. The OP posted himself, ordinary people, those who you would never suspect, are the ones that kill themselves.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you may see as not being worth it, but you're not the one with the pressure or reason to value life less than you do. No one is in a position to judge them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I ask myself 'why?' all the time. Hob mentioned a few things that contribute to suicide. Those things he mentioned are things I have. I'm even losing the one thing I loved and thought I couldn't live without. But like you said, it's takes a lot of guts to kill yourself. That's the thing that will keep me from even thinking of suicide.

 

 

 

I've been thinking about this a decent bit tonight (I had drivers ed, lots of time to think) and I still have to say suicide is the cowards way out. That is, unless you go out with a bang. (Not shoot yourself, make yourself known for one final thing you did before you killed yourself)

[logic-is-overrated]

This relatively short interview of Robert Ingersoll sums up my views perfectly, along with his other couple of articles on suicide:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

http://www.infidels.org/library/histori ... anity.html

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The highlights:

 

 

 

When a man is of no use to himself,

 

 

 

when he can be of no use to others, when his life is filled with

 

 

 

agony, when the future has no promise of relief, then I think he

 

 

 

has the right to cast the burden of life away and seek the repose

 

 

 

of death.

 

 

 

To escape death by torture; to avoid being devoured by

 

 

 

a cancer; to prevent being a burden on those you love; when you can

 

 

 

be of no use to others or to yourself; when life is unbearable;

 

 

 

when in all the horizon of the future there is no star of hope.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's not always about cowardice. I have a list of things that I want to accomplish. When I accomplish everything on this list (and probably the few things I will add to it), I plan on killing myself. Is it because I'm scared? Or because I'm hopelessly depressed and too lazy to get help? No. It's just the way I view life. I view life as something we have to use to accomplish certain things and that's it. It's just a different viewpoint on life (of course some people are just lazy, selfish, etc. but making blanket statements saying all suicides are such is completely unfounded).

[Riku3220]

back when i was 4 years old, my best friends dad was a murderer. his dad murded his girlfriend and his son. after that he killed himself... i lost my best friend and i just wanted to die just to see him once more but then i thought of my family so instead i prayed that later i will see him soon. Lil Dawyne you will be missed :cry:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

so think about what your going to hurt worse than whats going on with you because i'd much rather deal with a bully to prevent any sadness

[Turnip]

 

Eek. That stinks. Sometimes I think suicide is a way out for the weak.

 

I have to say suicide is the cowards way out.

 

I honestly think that people that commit suicide are selfish.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whilst everyone is entitled to their opinions, you three clearly do not know the first thing about the mindset of someone who commits suicide. It is not just the feeling of wanting to be free, or of sadness, it is the feeling of being completely trapped and not being able to talk to anybody about your problems. Most suicides occur in men, and most of those in young men. This is because young men are the worst at communicating and discussing their problems. They bottle it up until they cannot cope. It is not a matter of being weak, or cowardly or selfish, it is a matter of sheer desperation, something which I doubt you, or many people have experienced.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People used to be prosecuted if they tried to commit suicide and failed, because it was seen as a sin and something that the person ought to be made to pay for. Nowadays the human mind is understood better and psychologists have realized that these people need help, not punishing more. Can't you three take the same view?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For the first bolded part, isn't committing suicide taking away the 'trapped' feeling? Getting rid of the need to talk to people, cause frankly, once you're dead, you can't really talk.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think you might've misinterpreted my post. By no means did I want to punish suicide-prone people. Helping them out and preventing it from occurring would be the most ideal situation. However, I still believe that it's selfish of them to commit suicide without regarding the feelings of those who care about them. They may not think it's a selfish act, but it really is. Many parents spend years and years nurturing a child, spending so much of their time and putting through the effort is order to support them. Just to think that after 17 or 18 years of all this, establishing the relationship and the happiness and joy of having this child, the love and all, would be wasted because that kid decided to commit suicide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Somewhere out there, each person has somewhere that cares about them. A lot of the people who think the contrary are looking at the negative moments with parents, friends, teachers, and such, and not at the portrayal of affection that has occurred in the past. Death is definitely one of the hardest things to cope with, but killing yourself over something like that is the last thing you should do cause it only leads to more suffering.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I don't find suicide cowardly, I just think it's just a inconsiderate thing to do to those that have sacrificed so much for you, and care about you dearly.

[Elphinstone]

Well, in my opinion, this is a fairly depressing topic. And, to bring a little light to it, let me point a hole in your logic. I could not tell you a suicide story about myself... because... well, it's what is a called a paradox.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, for my two cents.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When i was in school, it always was very hard for me to get along with people. (Yes, i'm in grade 10, but know i'm homeschooled and in a totally different situation. A much nicer one.) I was a nerd, not that great around girls, and hung around with a kid with asthma, an okay basketball player and a really short kid called Elwood. I got teased a bit, but never bullied. It got bad enough for my brother that we had to leave that school, and to tell you how bad it was, there was a guy who came there, and in two days he left crying and never came back. He didn't commit suicide though.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have never thought about suicide, and in my opinion it is a pretty pathetic way to go. I'm not calling anyone pathetic or anything, it's just i feel that not putting up a fight to the last doesn't feel like a completed life. I have never had an occasion to call the help or distress lines, and i don't feel an inclination to. I've never done drugs, smoked pot, gotten drunk... etc. And i've also lived a fairly privileged life. I'm what they call a 'clean' kid. I feel though, that suicide is all about people that refuse to take responsibility for their actions, and when they finally do, they realize that it is too late and they kill themselves. It happens all over, and not neccesarily to people. Governments commit suicides. Economies commit suicides. Hell, even religions commit suicide, and a lot more than people would imagine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now, peopel that believe that there is nothing left for them to do but die are wrong. If you look at yourself in a mirror, you still have yourself. Even if your body is mutilated and all your hopes and dreams in life are gone, you still have yourself, your still alive. I am one of those people that believe that life is sacred in a very unreligious way. It just is. People need to realize all around that really, life and hope are there, and nobody can take that from you easily unless you allow them too. So people who think about suicide, step back, and even though you may have nothing left to live for, walk over to the nearest shelter and ask for help. You won't regret it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Thanks for reading my post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Elphinstone

[Nadril]

Suicide is a very tricky, and obviously emotional, topic.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Personaly I don't think I could ever commit suicide. First of all, I would be afraid to. I can see that it would be very hard to (quite literaly) put a gun to your head, a noose to your neck or any other varrious ways to kill yourself.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If I were ever depressed I think the most extreme thing I would do is try to... get away from the problem. I know that when you are depressed you often times don't think rationaly. Putting myself into the mindset that I would be depressed I personaly think I would simply try and get away from it all. Not through death but actualy getting away. Yes, if I were feeling that bad I think I would take a few belongings I have and head out to an empty, deserted area around where I live. Perhaps a forest, or something, to litteraly get away from it all.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Now obviously I don't know if I'd have the balls to do this as well, and I would probaly end up returning later. However, I generaly find that whenever I'm feeling low simply getting out and getting away from it all does wonders. It lets you clear your mind and, possibly, think rationaly about the problem when it isn't right in front of your face.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

But, suicide... Suicide is tricky. There are a lot of grey bounderys around it and as I'm not exactly sucidal (and have never been truly depressive, however, I have felt alone/sad while being here in college. Generaly, walking somewhere fixed that though) it is hard for me to think about what could justify suicide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So that's my question for you guys. What "does" justify suicide. Is it simply the act of being extremly unhappy with your life, with nowhere to go and turn to? Or is it something different, perhaps a specific example. Perhaps it's justifiable if you do it to avoid serrious, physical pain?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Or, is suicide purly your decission? Is it simply something that at a whim you can think "I dislike life, /quit"?

[forsaken]

In my opinion, nothing justifies suicide, conversely though, I don't think anyone has the right to judge or tell someone else what's right or wrong.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you've never been in that person's shoes, then you can't assume you know the full details. Seeing as you'll never completely be in someone else's shoes, I don't think you can ever judge them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For instance, I'll assume [maybe dangerously so] that everyone here is a firm believer of the concept of human rights?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A portion of the basis of human rights - in a very succinct and hardly comprehensive description - is that humans are allowed to exercise their rights insofar as they do not infringe upon the rights of other humans. So, from this we can gather that one's rights is in actuality a delicate balance between one's duty and rights.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I believe that this conceptual balance extends into what people think and do; you can think, believe or do anything you want so long as it does not infringe upon another's ability to do the same.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You might say that someone suiciding will adversely affect other's because of the fact that they love them or etc. But I think it's important to note that in most likelihood someone suiciding believes there is nothing there for them, and thus the emotional connection that other's have with them is purely unreciprocated. They didn't ask for people to feel that way about them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Just some thoughts of mine, draw your own conclusions though. [:

[assassin_696]

Personally, I think suicide is the cowards way out. I've been lucky enough never to have been so badly depressed or unhappy that i've even considered it, but I have seen the effects of it on a personal scale. The amount of hurt, confusion and damage it can cause to a family or the people who knew the person is horrific. You may be finally solving your problems but the sheer thought of the people I would leave behind would put me off it forever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My parents have given and are still giving me so much love, support and care that the thought of me deliberately taking away all that from them actually makes me shiver. Despite the usual teenage type problems, i've still got great friends, a great family, a great school and an amazing life. But I suppose i'm just lucky.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even when life really gets tough, in my eyes there's always a way out and something more to live for.

[Alduron]

I'm sorry for the loss of your schoolmates :(

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Suicide is a very controversial and difficult subject in that it is not fair to judge another unless you have walked in their shoes (so to speak).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I have had my share of psych courses in College and have dealt with families and crime scenes of individuals that have commited suicide... I never was able to understand why people would chose to take their own lifes and felt that surely there was a place for them to turn, medication to get, etc.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This view changed when I had a situation in my life that led me to depression and suicide ideation. I suddenly realized how some of these people must have felt and why a rational person would engage in such an irrational act.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The thing with depression is that your system becomes chemically unstable which causes your thoughts to no longer be rational. When people are depressed they begin to feed off the pain, they feel they need to suffer more as sort of a punishment for their failures in life or for life failing them. Some people engage in cutting, forms of self mutilation and self destruction.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Basically what happens is the person with depression is drawn to all things that make them more depressed and will block out most efforts of help and things that can make them happy (not in all cases but those that end in suicide tend to follow this path). There are people such as myself who fully recognize that they are depressed and seek help but talking to a counsellor when you feel your world is falling apart does little good... what can they do to fix your problems (that is the mindset) in reality your problems are not that bad and can be managed with time and effort but you are unable to see that because your judgement is clouded.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I was on meds for a while and went through a couple of phases where I stopped taking them because I was still too far depressed and felt the need to hurt myself... I eventually overcame that and one step at a time overcame my problems and am a happy camper today...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When I look back at my behavior at that point in my life I do not recognize myself... I cannot believe that a few chemicals caused me to behave so insanely and nearly ended my life. I felt that it was not only the best thing for me but for my family and friends that they would be better off without me... it really warps your sense of reality.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Suicide is not about being weak it is about being driven to something you normally would not consider but are unable to stop. If any of you reading this feel the desire to commit suicide please contact a responsible adult that can help you and believe me and them that things can and will get better if you give it a chance. Your family and friends would never be better off without you and would only blame themselves for the rest of their lives for failing to have helped someone they loved.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

~Alduron

[forsaken]

Personally, I think suicide is the cowards way out. I've been lucky enough never to have been so badly depressed or unhappy that i've even considered it, but I have seen the effects of it on a personal scale. The amount of hurt, confusion and damage it can cause to a family or the people who knew the person is horrific. You may be finally solving your problems but the sheer thought of the people I would leave behind would put me off it forever.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

My parents have given and are still giving me so much love, support and care that the thought of me deliberately taking away all that from them actually makes me shiver. Despite the usual teenage type problems, i've still got great friends, a great family, a great school and an amazing life. But I suppose i'm just lucky.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Even when life really gets tough, in my eyes there's always a way out and something more to live for.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That's the crux of the matter though, when you feel as if there's no way out, or nothing left for you.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

An important distinguishment should be drawn here, quite a few people have said "you should think of your friends and family, and what you'll do to them" but that's the thing, what you feel isn't what you think.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you feel like your friends, parents and generally everyone hates you - you're not going to be thinking very happy thoughts.

[runemetsa]

In my opinion, suicide is lack of aspect, and it really Isn't answer to anything.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

ALL problems can be solved, and killing yourself Isn't really a very great way to solve anything. If you even think that there would be someone that would deeply miss you, it really doesn't worth doing it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

R.I.P your schoolmates. What a waste of young lives.

[issy2]

 

Eek. That stinks. Sometimes I think suicide is a way out for the weak.

 

I have to say suicide is the cowards way out.

 

I honestly think that people that commit suicide are selfish.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Whilst everyone is entitled to their opinions, you three clearly do not know the first thing about the mindset of someone who commits suicide. It is not just the feeling of wanting to be free, or of sadness, it is the feeling of being completely trapped and not being able to talk to anybody about your problems. Most suicides occur in men, and most ofthose in young men. This is because young men are the worst at communicating and discussing their problems. They bottle it up until they cannot cope. It is not a matter of being weak, or cowardly or selfish, it is a matter of sheer desperation, something which I doubt you, or many people have experienced.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

People used to be prosecuted if they tried to commit suicide and failed, because it was seen as a sin and something that the person ought to be made to pay for. Nowadays the human mind is understood better and physcologists have realised that these people need help, not punishing more. Can't you three take the same view?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well said. =D> =D> =D>

 

 

 

Suicide is a big step. It's giving up everything you've ever known and most likely putting those who love you under enormous strain.

 

 

 

However, how would you know what they're going through? No-one has any right to judge until you know what it feels like. I have to admit I've thought about suicide. But that would be a waste of a life which I don't want to end. Suicide isn't giving up. It's just wanting to get away.

[How2PK]

I don't think it's fair to say "the easy way out" who are we to judge. Anyway, I'm not really attracted to it. Nor do I try things like it. I do think of it sometimes though, ending your life. Not because I'm depressed or something, I'm perfectly happy. It's more because of the mystery of death. But there's so much left to do and enjoy, so I think I can wait another year or 50/60 to find that out. :)

[rune2thescape]

pain and suffering is a part of life we all feel it one time or another. some people get it so bad they rhink this is what the rest of their life is gonna be rubbish and commit suicide.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Any type of death is sad

[jin_sakura226]

Hmmm this suicide stories get worse :wall:

 

 

 

Two death in 2 weeks and 6 fights in 2 days occur in my school.

 

 

 

Since this is the second day after the second death of a girl, there has been rumors going on. One was where some emo sign a packed to commit suicide around 25 people through myspace. Then there were 2 students from my school that left today saying that they were gonna commit suicide. The two students got arrested and with weapons in their car. Soon a lot of cops came to my school. Another thing there are a bunch of counsler in my school library since yesterday. Near lunch time there was another rumor that a boy had a gun in his bookbag and 2 girls seen it. This gun threat scared everyone in the school. When lunch time ended everyone started to leave the school. With our school being on the news and pretty much all the parents came to pick up their child/childrens from school. There was 17 student being called out over the speaker in verey minute.

 

 

 

Heheheh i m one of the 2 that is still in this classroom. about a thousand student left school after lunch. Another boy who got expelled a month ago from school came to the school today. He wasn't allowed in and got tackled down by one of the officers. I was 20 blocks from the world trade center when it got attacked but not that many people were called home like today. Now i am in south carolina with this story

[darkmage099]

I don't think it's fair to say "the easy way out" who are we to judge.

 

 

 

We are society. Who is anyone to judge anything? Judgment rules the world.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well said. =D> =D> =D>

 

 

 

Suicide is a big step. It's giving up everything you've ever known and most likely putting those who love you under enormous strain.

 

 

 

However, how would you know what they're going through? No-one has any right to judge until you know what it feels like. I have to admit I've thought about suicide. But that would be a waste of a life which I don't want to end. Suicide isn't giving up. It's just wanting to get away.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh yes well said. Too bad you didn't comment on any of the other responses to that post.

[issy2]

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well said. =D> =D> =D>

 

 

 

Suicide is a big step. It's giving up everything you've ever known and most likely putting those who love you under enormous strain.

 

 

 

However, how would you know what they're going through? No-one has any right to judge until you know what it feels like. I have to admit I've thought about suicide. But that would be a waste of a life which I don't want to end. Suicide isn't giving up. It's just wanting to get away.

 

 

 

 

 

 

Oh yes well said. Too bad you didn't comment on any of the other responses to that post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of which there were three. Your point is...?

[Tbfgraphx14]

 

 

I won't lie, I did think about suicide back in 6th grade (maybe, around there).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

That makes me sad. :(

 

 

 

You're a great friend Ddr, thank god you reconcidered.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yeah, I'm thankful I was able to overcome the problems I had. I'm sticking around for a while, don't worry. ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Yea, I have thought about suicide too, but I didnt want to leave life so bad, that I would kill myself. And I didnt know what would be waiting for me on the otherside :uhh: , But it wasnt problems with people, it was my grades and how my parents hated me for them. The only thing that made me happy was runescape, and tif forum, and I couldn't get on either.