lol this seperates the people who dont like to click from the people who do,

 

 

 

people sitting with guthan while stepping away from the computer for 5 days true skill huh? trust me, pest control is VERY VERY boring, if you get to 126 combat with pest control, you click more than getting 91 runecrafting and 99 in many skills. funny part is, if pest control DID NOT have points then you would still get faster xp than most places.

 

 

 

funny how all the pc-products say that, nice 93 hits with them stats :lol: takes more skill than: get off tut, get a scim of each type, go play a minigame 100000 times. yep its boring, but new players like you can stand it because they want to get high levels in 2 months.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

pc is boring as hell, every game is the same, id rather just do slayer/kill monsters to 99's and get alot of cash, speak to more people (at pc all you see is "get spinners neeb!" "we lost!" "level 88: new level 88+ world!"), and actually have fun rather than playing a boring minigame 100000 times.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

add me, ill show you my scythe dear sir? want me to login to classic and talk? lmao at you - first you insult me then you say that pc is boring.... are you stupid or stupid? if pc is boring to you is this why your not doing it? farming is boring to me, slayer is boring to me and i know people do farming and slayer and get lots of xp per day, and ill call it a boring skill afterwards. and your doing the exact samething, but add me if you want, ill show you my scythe and ill meet you in classic afterwards

PC products are fun (to kill that is) most PC pures can be KOed by a single dagger spec...

I agree fully. I hate PC with a passion, I find it excrusiatingly, mind numbingly boring. People abuse the game and these days it used as a combat machine, you go in, strike 50 damge, wait, get in, lather, rinse, repeat, etc. Where is the fun and joy from that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I level my combat with slayer, which breaks up the monotony, adds variety and rakes in the money from drops. People these days are too much in a rush to be uber and high combat, whereas I would rather level skills.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At first I was against people suggesting Jagex should alter PC to make it more demanding, but now I'm completely for it.

I agree fully. I hate PC with a passion, I find it excrusiatingly, mind numbingly boring. People abuse the game and these days it used as a combat machine, you go in, strike 50 damge, wait, get in, lather, rinse, repeat, etc. Where is the fun and joy from that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I level my combat with slayer, which breaks up the monotony, adds variety and rakes in the money from drops. People these days are too much in a rush to be uber and high combat, whereas I would rather level skills.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

At first I was against people suggesting Jagex should alter PC to make it more demanding, but now I'm completely for it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

and this is why your stats are terrible? :-k

i think pc is great for those of us that have maxed hp at early levels. i did 99 range and 94 mage with combat spells and had 99 hp at 110 cmbt(my first 99) now i have used pc to do 96 to 99 def and 95 to 99 def at an increased rate.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I agree fully. I hate PC with a passion, I find it excrusiatingly, mind numbingly boring. People abuse the game and these days it used as a combat machine, you go in, strike 50 damge, wait, get in, lather, rinse, repeat, etc. Where is the fun and joy from that?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

i despise these leeches, even in Zamorack Portal Slayers we have these 124+ lazy slugs. i never stop, i move to next portal after that one is dead.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the system could be improved with a simple addition. you are grouped by boat with equal level poeple. IE 126-120, 119-110, 109-90, 89-3

 

 

 

this would allow the games to match the players to the difficulty. it may have to have you go to another dimension of the game so all the pc is on the same world type thing. make like 4-5 servers just for pc

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

the 20-30 second games would be gone as the portals could have 1000 hp for the 120's and all creatures level 200+, but at the 89-> the protals could be like 150 hp and level 50 creatures. this would make for a more balanced game play.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

there is no reason to complain about this as it is part of the game now, we have to adapt to seeing level 27's with 50 str and 60 def in full drag and obby set :roll:

 

 

 

one way to hose these mutants is to have combat stats displayed on the duel screen for your opponent, but that would be a whole new topic :ohnoes:

I think you're the idiot.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Who cares if he wants to train only a few stats, and since when was combat so dominant, that if you're high combat you should know everything.

wow.... :XD:

My main gripe with Pest Control is that it requires

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

1. No Food

 

 

 

2. No Good Amour

 

 

 

3. No Risk

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To get the fastest damn experience in the entire game for combat. I find this pretty annoying, as an RSC player, RS2 itself made it easy to level combat, I didn't mind that, I can accept change. I can't keep living in RSC, but Pest Control is just taking that too far.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I always thought using Guthan and whatnot to stay forever in training spots was pretty easy. Then Pest Control, you don't even need Guthan to train forever. All you need is some Initiate Armour, or something, with a whip to get the fastest exp in game.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

It is too easy, it is too safe, it is too fast.

Yup, that's why I dislike it too. And yes, I can get in a good PC group, yes I can do it easily and quickly, and yes, I think it's stupid. (I hate afk levelers much more though. At least PC players are at their keyboard.) Frankly, a game's leveling system should either be really hard (like rs classic) or really easy (like guild wars). Hard for the pve (player vs enviroment games, aka mmorpgs that focus on the one player mode over the vs mode) and easy for the pvp (player vs player) games. Right now, (with PC,) RS is right in the center.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The leveling system (where getting levels was an accomplishment) was the thing I liked most about classic.

alot of you guys disagreeing with him are ignoring one thing.

 

 

 

jagex probably didnt intend pest control to end up like this. runescape is a game that was intended for players to milk out every single aspect of it before quitting, which would take 3+ years. pest control shortens the average length people play runescape by alot. also runescape is meant to be a rounded game, which means a little skilling, a little questing, a little combat. pest control makes it so that people are doing just combat, then merchanting, and then quitting. it takes out the center of runescape.

maybe that guy just came from f2p and the first thing he did was pest control :? then its not so weird that he didn't knew it

 

 

 

jagex probably didnt intend pest control to end up like this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pest control is an automatic win if you hold out for 20 minutes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When is the last time you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A.) Saw a game that lasted more than 5 minutes?

 

 

 

and

 

 

 

B.) Had a game last more than 5 minutes afterwhich win or lose people didn't leave to another world because "this world sux".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The entire concept behind pest control is a lot of fun, but not when people play it the way they do where every game is over in under 2 minutes.

he could be new to members :?

 

 

 

 

jagex probably didnt intend pest control to end up like this.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Pest control is an automatic win if you hold out for 20 minutes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

When is the last time you

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A.) Saw a game that lasted more than 5 minutes?

 

 

 

and

 

 

 

B.) Had a game last more than 5 minutes afterwhich win or lose people didn't leave to another world because "this world sux".

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The entire concept behind pest control is a lot of fun, but not when people play it the way they do where every game is over in under 2 minutes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

even with bad players pest control ends in under five minutes. I don't know what you want? a long drawn out pest control game isn't fun to me *shrug*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

for those laughing at the wilderness abilities of PCers,

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

a 'pro' of playing pest control : you get a LOT better at controlling your character than you would sitting at bandit camp with Guthans. You might say "wtf? you just click where you want to go" WRONG. The path-finding in runescape is notoriously bad. There is a huge difference in someone controlling their character sufficiently and being really good at it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

last time I checked--the wilderness noobs AREN'T the ones who can move around good, have very pumped combat stats, and can switch dagger very smoothly (I know i can, I practice it every pc :) )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

think of how good you got at moving around PC with all the moving obstacles and how much better you are at it today thank you were the first time you tried pest control. Youll be that much better at it everywhere in rs too ;)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Also, to say you get to know the world better training outside pest control...Give me a break! after 80 you just slouch at the best spots with your dharoks or whip for hours on end. With the time i save playing pest control i could explore the world a thousand times over.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If jagex put in a way to train combat that had a social aspect like pest control i'd be all over it. Sadly I don't enjoy sitting alone under the barbarian village farming ankous all day

i saw a lvl 120 that didnt know how to crunsh bones for ecto.. and he had a fire cape and pc armour... so he wasnt new 2 member...

i saw a lvl 120 that didnt know how to crunsh bones for ecto.. and he had a fire cape and pc armour... so he wasnt new 2 member...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Should a mathmatician have EVERY theorem memorized?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Should a chemist know the entire periodic table by heart?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

just because he's level 120 doesn't mean he knows everything, just like you wouldn't expect the chemist to have the atomic mass of polonium memorized.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I could know the atomic mass of polonium just like you could know how to ecto. It does NOT mean i'm better at chemistry than the chemist or that you're better at runescape than the 120 AT ALL.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you seem to be under the impression that learning every small nook of the game is important...with 30 skills and over 100 quests...not really

 

i saw a lvl 120 that didnt know how to crunsh bones for ecto.. and he had a fire cape and pc armour... so he wasnt new 2 member...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Should a mathmatician have EVERY theorem memorized?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Should a chemist know the entire periodic table by heart?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

just because he's level 120 doesn't mean he knows everything, just like you wouldn't expect the chemist to have the atomic mass of polonium memorized.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I could know the atomic mass of polonium just like you could know how to ecto. It does NOT mean i'm better at chemistry than the chemist or that you're better at runescape than the 120 AT ALL.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you seem to be under the impression that learning every small nook of the game is important...with 30 skills and over 100 quests...not really

 

 

 

To answer your questions, pretty much yes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And pertaining to the second boldface part, with the usual year or so it takes to get 120 combat (or at least it should), one generally picks up things like how to Ecto. Not every 120 is going to know where every single elf spawns in the forest, but Ecto isn't exactly a trivial matter like that. Before Gilded Altars Ecto was the best way to get Prayer experience, the best- I wouldn't call that a "small nook of the game." That's why his post is significant.

That's not necessarily true, although the ectofunctus is the giver of the best experience, it doesn't mean it's the best. When I'm on a slayer to kill, for instance, fire giants, I'm going to bury the bones I get because it's not profitable for me to save the bones, bank them, come back and get yet another load of bones. Once I finish my assignment, I'm forced to grind up 150+ bones, collect 150+ slime, and worship 150+ times...this prayer experience is not worth the time i could have finished another assignment that would have gotten me more prayer, combat, slayer, and hitpoints experience.

That's not necessarily true, although the ectofunctus is the giver of the best experience, it doesn't mean it's the best. When I'm on a slayer to kill, for instance, fire giants, I'm going to bury the bones I get because it's not profitable for me to save the bones, bank them, come back and get yet another load of bones. Once I finish my assignment, I'm forced to grind up 150+ bones, collect 150+ slime, and worship 150+ times...this prayer experience is not worth the time i could have finished another assignment that would have gotten me more prayer, combat, slayer, and hitpoints experience.

 

 

 

I know, I do the same thing, but that's honestly beside the point. I'm talking about the most efficient way, with Dragon Bones, to get to 99 Prayer before gilded altars (for those who have the cash to do it), not what's the best thing to do in every single circumstance. You aren't going to get 99 prayer simply burying Fire Giant big bones, which is why the Ecto is much more famous in regards to the Prayer skill.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'm just saying that it's a very well known method of gaining Prayer experience, thus it is surprising that a 120 doesn't understand it. Talking about what you do when you kill Fire Giants doesn't really pertain to the argument that Ecto is pretty famous.

It's not that all pc players are noobs or no lifers, but it's all how you use it. I personally use pc when I'm close to level because it's the fastest xp, but I also kill monsters to get the main body of the level. It's all in moderation. The monsters I kill leave drops. They could be rare, or they could be junk. In pc, you get coins based on your combat level. I'm personally a lvl 80, so I get 800 coins. But, at my level, 800 coins is nothing compared to the drops I could get killing monsters.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So I do both in moderation. When you get higher, you could always go kill Daggonoth Kings, or the Kalphite Queen. It gets harder to level, and you expect more from leveling. In pc, you don't get as much possible money, but you get more experience. Sure, there are the no lifers, the noobs, along with the average players, but it's their choice, and trade drops for xp.

This morning when I got on, I start to burn some of my 8k willow logs in edge, and this lv 118 comes up to me. I am lv 110, he is 118.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

118: hey can i ask u a question?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

me: sure

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

118: wat quest do i need 2 get 2 west ardy?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

me: you don't know?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

118: no and where is west ardy

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A level 118 not knowing where Ardougne is! How is that? After some more talking, he says that he has only been to Sarium and Draynor for Pest Control. Upon looking up his stats, he has less then 700 total..

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

A level 118 with less then 700 total? Has Pest Control put the minds of lv 60s into the characters of 118s!?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

What is your opion on this? I personally think that people who PC for combat mainly are idiots. They have aquired no knowlage of the game, but are of a high combat and most unknowing people respect it. when someone asks me a question, I can answer it nearly every time. But someone of higher combat can't?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

lol awsome... i love pc but im a skiller soooo...

 

 

i saw a lvl 120 that didnt know how to crunsh bones for ecto.. and he had a fire cape and pc armour... so he wasnt new 2 member...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Should a mathmatician have EVERY theorem memorized?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Should a chemist know the entire periodic table by heart?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

just because he's level 120 doesn't mean he knows everything, just like you wouldn't expect the chemist to have the atomic mass of polonium memorized.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I could know the atomic mass of polonium just like you could know how to ecto. It does NOT mean i'm better at chemistry than the chemist or that you're better at runescape than the 120 AT ALL.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

you seem to be under the impression that learning every small nook of the game is important...with 30 skills and over 100 quests...not really

 

 

 

To answer your questions, pretty much yes.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And pertaining to the second boldface part, with the usual year or so it takes to get 120 combat (or at least it should), one generally picks up things like how to Ecto. Not every 120 is going to know where every single elf spawns in the forest, but Ecto isn't exactly a trivial matter like that. Before Gilded Altars Ecto was the best way to get Prayer experience, the best- I wouldn't call that a "small nook of the game." That's why his post is significant.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

to this player, ecto is clearly a trivial matter. I'll say it again : with 30 skills and 120 quests it is up to you to determine what you find trivial and not. if you don't see something as important you can simply ignore it to level 120 and beyond as this player did ;) And it's perfectly acceptable (clearly)

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regarding the first part of my last post : You answered my VERY retorical questions with a 1 word response. wow simply stunning.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll say you're in 8th grade, 9th grade tops.

Hehe...It's their choice.

Only thing I feel jagex should've/should do differently with Pest Control is raise the minimum level to atleast 80 COmbat.

I might have seen the same guy as you lol. He had a rediculously low total, with high combat. We were at duel arena and he said he'd never been there before or knew that it existed.

to this player, ecto is clearly a trivial matter. I'll say it again : with 30 skills and 120 quests it is up to you to determine what you find trivial and not. if you don't see something as important you can simply ignore it to level 120 and beyond as this player did ;) And it's perfectly acceptable (clearly)

 

 

 

Note: Just a quick question, but did you pull those numbers for the skills and quests out of a hat? You know there is a set number, you don't have to guesstamate :? .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can understand that they would never use ecto. Hell, I've only used it once. Realizing that I guess it is acceptable that he may not understand the mechanism. Still, please do not dismiss Ecto as trivial. In the time it took that player to get 120 combat they would have been playing in the age when Ecto was well known- whether he does or does not feel a need to use it does not mean he's not even going to know what it is.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And is it really up to the player to decide what is trivial or not? I suppose that it's relative to some limited extent, but, as an example, I doubt that someone's opinion of the Abortion issue as "trivial" is going to mean much. The Ecto is pretty famous, so some level 120 calling it "trivial" also probably wouldn't mean much :? .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

The only possible way that this 120 would be permitted to call it trivial is if he or she started playing after Gilded Altars were made (which put Ecto in the dark a fair amount), and then leveled to 120 going so fast that they probably would have no time for other skills. That would be a near impossible feat, but if they pulled it off they would have successfully played Runescape never in the time of the age of Ecto.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Regarding the first part of my last post : You answered my VERY retorical questions with a 1 word response. wow simply stunning.

 

 

 

Because I didn't feel like writing a three page paper on it...? The questions were yes or no, so the fact that I said "yes" shouldn't be surprising. Also, the fact that I'm denying what you assume to be obvious probably means that it was not fully rhetocical (which has an 'h' in it, by the way).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I also didn't see you denying my response in this part of the post :-s . First tell me I'm wrong, then insult me. As of now it appears that you aren't disagreeing with me, let alone providing proof as to why I'm wrong, and resorting to an insult to cover it up.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you're absolutely desperate to know, a real chemist may not have every piece of data memorized, but most work with molecules so much that they've got even many of the smaller details ingrained into their mind. To that point it would be surpising to find a chemist who didn't know what Fe was or what kind of metal it was, in the same way it'd be surpising that someone with an assumed year or so of experience to get level 120 would not understand the Ecto. To the point of theorems, much like the chemist, mathematicians aren't going to have every detail down, but to be a true mathematicion they usually understand and know almost all of them. A good example for the Iron:Ecto analagy would be, say, the Pythagoreon theorem, or even something like the law of Syllogism.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I'll say you're in 8th grade, 9th grade tops.

 

 

 

I hate when people resort to this as an unnecessary insult. I mean, it's not even an insult; I'm in third grade, so thanks for the compliment :D .

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Your post was about 30% opinion and data, and 70% completely out-of-the-blue insults. For future posting it'd be nice if you could work on that.