Is Jagex Over Cooking Runescape?

[Matok]

I totaly disagree with u.

 

 

 

I think Jagex puts a lot of their energies on planning and designing the game updates. This game can be easly ruined by some unthoughtful feature.

 

 

 

Jagex needs to keep the crowd quite by providing them their weekly-update dose but they also try hard to still be loyal to there overall vision of the game.

 

 

 

Remember thats it is very hard to "re-invinte the wheel" on a weekly base I think that Jagex innovative resources are not drain yet....

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Quests -Mini games: some examples of the "worthless items that taking bank space":

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

- keris dagger. worthless? dont think so

 

 

 

- Salve ammy(e) - love it

 

 

 

- Fremennik helm - dont take it off.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Hunter? remember the whinings about farming? Dont worry,Jagex will make it worthwhile in the future..

[muggiwhplar]

Hunting - allowed people to get 300k range XP per hour (about 1M XP per hour before the rune bolt trick was nerfed) for a low price (before prices shot up because a certain capitalist released the spot )

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Barbarian Assault - fighter torso and pennance gloves

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

New quests - new helm (the one which is better than berserker helm in every aspect), Ava's accumulator/attractor

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They were good updates, but could have been better (such as making fighter torso tradable or having it disintegrate when dropped)

[meili]

"Quality over quantity"

 

 

 

-Some dead person who has never played runescape and Jagex obviously never heard of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Short and gets to the point right away. Great post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For example, they have promised clan support for a long, long time (years). Where are the instanced dungeon/s they promised before RS2 (again, years ago)? Why can't they have major quality updates instead of a large number of minor ones, like quests that take 10 mins to do with a reward of 3000 gp?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They don't have actual events in RS, not even one, instead they have hundreds of quests.

[primadog]

As OP said, everyone have their own taste.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Perhaps you do not enjoy quests and only do them for the rewards, other people (such as I do). I enjoy the uniqueness of each quest, for the plot, creativity, challenges, and puzzles. It make you glad that you're not playing WoW or other games where all quests involve the format: kill/gather # [insert monster/item here] and return for exp. The quests actually pertain and expand the RS storyline, and it's vital to the game experience.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Contrary to the claims that the recent quests are "shallow," "boring," or "weak," I believe there's a general trend of improvement in the quest's creativity, humor, style, detail. Don't forget, our first quest into this world IS bringing 20 balls of wool for a farmer (+4 qp). I died twice in Contact, barely lived through the hail of snow from the ice trolls, and that's just this year.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Of course, if you don't like quests, period. Then the regular two quest a month, no matter how good they are, will not appeal to you, but that certainly isn't an excuse that the rest of us should be deprieved of them.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[i'll address the others later]

[andufusthebronze]

I'm really starting to get sick of these whiners... :evil:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you honestly need updates to keep you going then just quit. I could be satisfied for over half a year without one update and I'd still have plenty to do. I'm tired of the whiners about bad updates and such, its just getting old :wall:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

+1

[Dharockslayer]

Its called fun, some people realise this game isnt going to do anything for them IRL, so they play minigames like Castle wars or go Dking for fun.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Most of the "normal" people think its all about gaining money and becoming a 1337 pker or whatever goal. And when that goal is achieved, they wait for Jagex to make another great update. And when it turns out to be pointless for THEM they begin to whine.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I can be happy with totally *pointless* goals, like my 4k chompy hat and full white knight or whatever. I dont live for updates, and neither should anybody. You'll only become disappointed. I suggest just living up to your goals and when something good gets updated, you wouldnt whine about it, nor would you have been waiting all that time for that one update to come.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Overall conclusion: Pick more cabbage.

[ValaraZ]

Just one thing, there wasn't update this week, was there?

[Gerthddyn]

I've read your post, and I think I understand what you're trying to say: that Jagex are releasing too many updates too quickly without putting enough thought into them and without them having a "point" (ie high rewards for high levels).

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Well, what in RuneScape has a point then? What's the point of fishing? What's the point of combat? FUN! I play RuneScape cause it's fun and relaxing and not overly pretentious. While I agree that Hunter may not be the most interesting of skills, there are a lot of people who like it, and that's enough for me. What do you want from a skill? The ability to make money? Apart from the fact that there are apparently lots of good ways to make money with Hunter once you're high enough, I'm going to turn your own argument around. What's the point of making virtual money? Buying cool armour? Well, then what's the point of having cool armour?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I really liked Cold Wars, it was utterly and thorougly funny. Tower of Life was a bit short for my taste but I like the handbag, it's very stylish.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Overall conclusion: Pick more cabbage.

 

 

 

+1

[fat_hobbit22]

i agree with what you said.

 

 

 

If im paying $5 a month i want some good rewards, granted the whole members experience is probably worth just that $5 but, when you are f2p you see all the weekly updates that you don't get to have and thats probably another reason why people joind p2p, therfore i should expect them to update every so often, afterall i am paying them i expect a high quality service. Now at no point am i say jagex arent doing a fantastic job of running their game but it seems to me there pushing it a bit to release the updates.

 

 

 

Im sure no one would mind if they released 1 update a moth as long as it was a big update.

 

 

 

BA for example, that was a big update, lots of fun world 6 is crowded with it, could have been better but so can everything, that 1 update a moth with a little quest everynow again (like 1 or 2 every 2 months) with little rewards will keep the mid level player entertained. But it seems we are being bombarded with these small updates. When was the last time you saw a big update? like monkey madness? a new skill? a good update for high levels? the only thing i can think of is the 3rd age armour...

 

 

 

but more to the point, im rambiling here. I think jagex should cut the amount of crap, maybe release the little stuff once a month maybe a lil quest or graohics update, and the 1 bigupdate say every month and a half. Like barrows or something fun like that.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

How about they let out trial versions of new mini games? they can get feedback and improve to see what the majority wants... prehaps randomly selct 500 player to test and evaluate it, that way they can release an update that suits everybody and is well planed.

[Gerthddyn]

When was the last time you saw a big update? like monkey madness? a new skill?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

21 November 2006, to be exact. Unless that was a rhetorical question, in which case you are contradicting yourself - you think Jagex updates too often but you think they should update more often? Huh?

[zaquierming]

Back in classic the number of players was much, much lower. Therefore, the number of staff was much lower. And of course, updates were less frequent because of those two facts. Now, with the opposite of those two facts being true today - updates are more frequent. Just because you don't like the updates doesn't mean they aren't others faveorites. Seriously, we have kids whining now when an update doesn't come on a Monday, imagine if we had updates once a month. I think, considering all the circumstances, Jagex is doing amazing as far as updates go.

[Jock66600]

I like any update as long nothing already in the game has been changed to make it harder. Like the construction skill, you didn't have to pay the bulter but then they changed it. I could do without an update for a year because they already added so much! I'm happy the way it is but they have to add new stuff to get new members. Its a vicous cycle. So what every one is saying is that some might not like it, others do. Thats life.

[Intse]

Sience when does fun need to have a point to it?

[oreocookie987]

Hunting - A skill that should never have been released:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

This skill brings nothing to the game and was abandoned as soon as the novelty wore off, leaving us with a bank full of useless items. Really Jagex what was the thinking behind this one? This skill was rushed and should have never made it into development.

 

 

 

Look at that, you just posted the exact reasons why my Hunter level is at 1 and will remain at 1.

[MtNeraka]

well i think that some of these updates are rather pointless, have no depth and arent really that rewarding. But are they fun? Most of them yes... So thats all that matters, were playing rs to have fun right?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They really need to revamp the graphics though, that would own so much.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I dont know if java can do any better than that though... I still think jagex is trying pretty hard to meet costumer expectations (maybe not some people's suggestions) but they do try. do you know how hard it is to program a game? I sure do. I know from experience.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Meh, so what if hunter is pointless... its fun!

[Bloodveld]

Why are most of you flaming him? He brings up a very important point. Jagex is pumping out new updates which haven't been thought out faster then Britney Spears is losing panties.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

To everyone saying "I like the new updates", which would you like more? Spending 10 min to get a purse every week, or spending a few hours doing some giant quest with multiple built in minigames and an awesome reward with great replay value every month?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I know what I would choose. The Drunk Dude says it perfectly:

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

"Quality over quantity"

 

 

 

-Some dead person who has never played runescape and Jagex obviously never heard of

[Wachtwoord]

 

"Quality over quantity"

 

 

 

-Some dead person who has never played runescape and Jagex obviously never heard of

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Short and gets to the point right away. Great post.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

For example, they have promised clan support for a long, long time (years). Where are the instanced dungeon/s they promised before RS2 (again, years ago)? Why can't they have major quality updates instead of a large number of minor ones, like quests that take 10 mins to do with a reward of 3000 gp?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

They don't have actual events in RS, not even one, instead they have hundreds of quests.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want instances, I suggest you to play WoW. Runescape is and should stay different then other games, diversity is good.

[n64jive]

Runescape turned from a great game to a game that is alright to play...but i'm no longer willing to pay $5 for a month for...and I'm not really to hard up for money...it's just that i'm sick of my checking account going down $5 every month for me to sit and maybe play the game 1 time a week...

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I've been f2p for the last week or 2 and i've actually started playing a lot more knowing there isn't so much stuff I can do...it's kind of weird.

[paulhartman]

What you have to remember is that there is a need for many more middle level type quests than quests for high levels. At any one time, there are many more middle level players than high, and part of the strategy of Jagex is to encourage those players to stay in the game long enough to become high levels. So, the complaining about lower level quests comes from a misunderstanding of how games like this work.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

And sure, we would all like to get some new and incredibly useful item from each quest, one that is better than the previous ones, but that would cause a stat inflation in weapons and armor that would quickly get crazy. Everything relates to everything else in this game, and you canÃÆââââ¬Å¡Ã¬Ã¢ââ¬Å¾Ã¢t go around introducing new better stuff every week.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

So, these complaints are more related to the type of game this is, than to Jagex and its implementation.

[-Devoted12-]

I'm beginning to feel that I'm the only one that has actually liked 90% of all the recent updates.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

You aren't! I did all the quests and enjoyed them soo much. And, to add to that, I'm hunting right now. :wink:

[kolko]

Indeed, some quests are pointless, but if they would only make high-level, long quests, the low level casual player would have no fun. :)

[Conorscool]

Well hunter should have been a bit more full to say and useful, i mean it stops at level 71 but i personally like it but for the main part it is useless. The others i have to agree with you on i think an update every two weeks would allow them to be well thought out and better made.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

As for the quests, they bore me now. I used to have a quest cape but the combination of boring quests and "3m0te pl0x" convinced me to not bother with cold war.

[highlanders]

I agree, but barb assault is ok with me. The only problem i would see is that how to score points is confusing.

[Icingdeath]

I do agree they are making a ton of updates and such, not all of them good, but people forget the purpose of this game. It's to have FUN. Who cares if something doesn't have super awesome rewards? As long as you have fun doing it, then Jagex accomplished their mission.

[meili]

 

Where are the instanced dungeon/s they promised before RS2 (again, years ago)? Why can't they have major quality updates instead of a large number of minor ones, like quests that take 10 mins to do with a reward of 3000 gp?

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

If you want instances, I suggest you to play WoW. Runescape is and should stay different then other games, diversity is good.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

I think you missed the point there. Jagex proposed the instanced dungeons before RS2. That means before Guildwars, WOW, etc. RS would have been ahead of WOW, if they had bothered to deliver the big updates instead of 100 small ones. WOW would have been the one similar to RS, not the other way around, which it would be now if they made instanced dungeons. :lol: That's the whole point!