Chaotic Rapier vs Longsword

[Cassynder]

soooo how does maul compare to ls for slayer and such?

[Ambler]

Most slayer monsters are low leveled, with low defence, so the rapier > maul + LS in slayer, not really an argument against that.

[stonewall337]

yeah I mean who plays RS for fun?

You are the kind of person I am writing an article about: Most people play RS for fun, which is fine. I take exception when people claim that THEIR WAY is better, when its not. I don't care if you slay with a DFS, just don't say its BETTER for slaying then defender. I don't care if you'd rather use CLS then CR slaying, just DON'T SAY CLS is better. Get the picture?

 

This thread is NOT about which is "more fun" to use, rather it is about which is more efficient, and which is better at given situations. If you aren't interested in efficiency, then this thread isn't for you. If you want, just pick which ever weapon you think will be "more fun". No one can say you are wrong then, as "fun" is incredibly subjective.

 

As for CR vs CLS at bandos, I would have to say it really depends on your off hand slot. CLS is better when using a shield, mainly solo. CR seems to be about even, if not slightly better, when duoing/FFA/Solo using a defender.

 

And maul isn't really useful for slayer; I can't imagine a task where it would outplay a CR or even whip+defender. The most funny thing I've seen recently is a level 126 with full rune, nezzy, glory, and c maul killing frost dragons, without a familiar. I just laughed inside. x.x

 

After using CR extensively, and nearing my 2nd chaotic, I can say there is NO chance that I will be getting CLS, unless I were to start PKing like mad, or soloing more bandos, (I enjoy both whip and GS pking, CLS and CR are just slightly different styles and tactics) So my 2nd will most likely be C'bow, or else maul, I haven't decided. I need to find out how much more boss C'bow is at TDs and DKS, since both places range is the class I use to do the most damage. (CR isn't bad vs prime, especially on task)

[SirIzenhime]

And maul isn't really useful for slayer; I can't imagine a task where it would outplay a CR or even whip+defender.

 

Waterfiends....yea, that's all I got.

[Troacctid]

And maul isn't really useful for slayer; I can't imagine a task where it would outplay a CR or even whip+defender.

 

Waterfiends....yea, that's all I got.

Waterfiends are a legitimate example.

 

Maybe lessers is you solo K'ril? Or maybe not. :XD:

[TheAncient]

yeah I mean who plays RS for fun?

You are the kind of person I am writing an article about: Most people play RS for fun, which is fine. I take exception when people claim that THEIR WAY is better, when its not. I don't care if you slay with a DFS, just don't say its BETTER for slaying then defender. I don't care if you'd rather use CLS then CR slaying, just DON'T SAY CLS is better. Get the picture?

 

This thread is NOT about which is "more fun" to use, rather it is about which is more efficient, and which is better at given situations. If you aren't interested in efficiency, then this thread isn't for you. If you want, just pick which ever weapon you think will be "more fun". No one can say you are wrong then, as "fun" is incredibly subjective.

 

As for CR vs CLS at bandos, I would have to say it really depends on your off hand slot. CLS is better when using a shield, mainly solo. CR seems to be about even, if not slightly better, when duoing/FFA/Solo using a defender.

 

And maul isn't really useful for slayer; I can't imagine a task where it would outplay a CR or even whip+defender. The most funny thing I've seen recently is a level 126 with full rune, nezzy, glory, and c maul killing frost dragons, without a familiar. I just laughed inside. x.x

 

After using CR extensively, and nearing my 2nd chaotic, I can say there is NO chance that I will be getting CLS, unless I were to start PKing like mad, or soloing more bandos, (I enjoy both whip and GS pking, CLS and CR are just slightly different styles and tactics) So my 2nd will most likely be C'bow, or else maul, I haven't decided. I need to find out how much more boss C'bow is at TDs and DKS, since both places range is the class I use to do the most damage. (CR isn't bad vs prime, especially on task)

 

Maul if:

-- TD's

-- Waterfiends

-- Pvp

 

Cbow really aint amazing but it isnt bad either.

Be prepared to lose it though, it has low protect value

Cbow if:

-- Arma

-- TD's

-- Pvp

[stonewall337]

And maul isn't really useful for slayer; I can't imagine a task where it would outplay a CR or even whip+defender.

 

Waterfiends....yea, that's all I got.

 

I stand corrected, yes CM would be better for fiends. I havn't done fiends in months, since I'm 99 summoning, so I didn't consider that. However, one task still doesn't change the utility CM has for slayer to a significant enough amount to make it a worthwhile purchase simply for slaying.

[xpx]

And maul isn't really useful for slayer; I can't imagine a task where it would outplay a CR or even whip+defender.

 

Waterfiends....yea, that's all I got.

 

I stand corrected, yes CM would be better for fiends. I havn't done fiends in months, since I'm 99 summoning, so I didn't consider that. However, one task still doesn't change the utility CM has for slayer to a significant enough amount to make it a worthwhile purchase simply for slaying.

Well, realistically, a CLS is just as good as maul for slayer as they both have one tasks they are best for- wyverns for CLS, fiends for maul, although i don't think this makes them particularly worthwhile to get for slayer, HOWEVER, if you look at it from a summoning standpoint, rapier is the WORST melee weapon(both wyverns and fiends are great crimson charms, second best to barraging lobs).

[Articultural]

If Wyverns are so weak to slash, why not just use slash on rapier?

[stonewall337]

If Wyverns are so weak to slash, why not just use slash on rapier?

Similar slash stats to whip, or a little lower IIRC whip is 82 slash, and CR is 78.

[Articultural]

But much higher Strength + if Wyverns have very low slash Defence (idk if they do, that's just what I've seen people saying), surely speed > an extra 46 Slash attack.

[Obtaurian]

But much higher Strength + if Wyverns have very low slash Defence (idk if they do, that's just what I've seen people saying), surely speed > an extra 46 Slash attack.

 

They don't have low slash defense. They have high defense in general, and the CLS is the most accurate one-handed weapon.

[Articultural]

Oh, I was under the impression they had low slash Defence. Has anyone tried maul with unicorn/ss/ee (to stop you dying from breath)?

[Smapla]

Oh, I was under the impression they had low slash Defence. Has anyone tried maul with unicorn/ss/ee (to stop you dying from breath)?

 

zarfot has, and he says you can survive doing that.

[Cassynder]

yeah I mean who plays RS for fun?

You are the kind of person I am writing an article about: Most people play RS for fun, which is fine. I take exception when people claim that THEIR WAY is better, when its not. I don't care if you slay with a DFS, just don't say its BETTER for slaying then defender. I don't care if you'd rather use CLS then CR slaying, just DON'T SAY CLS is better. Get the picture?

 

This thread is NOT about which is "more fun" to use, rather it is about which is more efficient, and which is better at given situations. If you aren't interested in efficiency, then this thread isn't for you. If you want, just pick which ever weapon you think will be "more fun". No one can say you are wrong then, as "fun" is incredibly subjective.

 

As for CR vs CLS at bandos, I would have to say it really depends on your off hand slot. CLS is better when using a shield, mainly solo. CR seems to be about even, if not slightly better, when duoing/FFA/Solo using a defender.

 

And maul isn't really useful for slayer; I can't imagine a task where it would outplay a CR or even whip+defender. The most funny thing I've seen recently is a level 126 with full rune, nezzy, glory, and c maul killing frost dragons, without a familiar. I just laughed inside. x.x

 

After using CR extensively, and nearing my 2nd chaotic, I can say there is NO chance that I will be getting CLS, unless I were to start PKing like mad, or soloing more bandos, (I enjoy both whip and GS pking, CLS and CR are just slightly different styles and tactics) So my 2nd will most likely be C'bow, or else maul, I haven't decided. I need to find out how much more boss C'bow is at TDs and DKS, since both places range is the class I use to do the most damage. (CR isn't bad vs prime, especially on task)

 

I never said anything about anything being better than anything else. Anything.

[Squisher_33]

i bought maul solely for wfs tasks, anyone who says a 1 task weapon isnt worth the time

 

1. if i dont spend the tokens on items id just spend it on 200k xp instead

- 200k xp takes 2h

- assume maul is 10 mins faster than zs

-assume wfs task is 1 in 15

-after 180 slay tasks ill have got my time back

-maul can also better utilise your triple charms

 

for being paid back after only 5m slay xp thats definately decent

 

also i dont see it as "just speeds up 1 task" but it literaly makes one of the slowest tasks a good deal faster, making a fast task even faster with rapier may save you 3 mins, but making a slow task faster realy packs a punch in ur overall slay xp/h

 

just my 2 cents on the maul for slaying matter

[SirIzenhime]

i bought maul solely for wfs tasks, anyone who says a 1 task weapon isnt worth the time

 

1. if i dont spend the tokens on items id just spend it on 200k xp instead

- 200k xp takes 2h

- assume maul is 10 mins faster than zs

-assume wfs task is 1 in 15

-after 180 slay tasks ill have got my time back

-maul can also better utilise your triple charms

 

for being paid back after only 5m slay xp thats definately decent

 

also i dont see it as "just speeds up 1 task" but it literaly makes one of the slowest tasks a good deal faster, making a fast task even faster with rapier may save you 3 mins, but making a slow task faster realy packs a punch in ur overall slay xp/h

 

just my 2 cents on the maul for slaying matter

 

You'll get 1 WF task out of maybe 20 tasks, assuming you'd use the rapier on the other 19 tasks, the rapier saves you 57 minutes according to you vs, the 10 minutes the maul saves.

The Rapier is FAR better for slayer then maul. It's honestly not even worth mentioning the maul for slayer :unsure:

[Matt_Marche]

i bought maul solely for wfs tasks, anyone who says a 1 task weapon isnt worth the time

 

1. if i dont spend the tokens on items id just spend it on 200k xp instead

- 200k xp takes 2h

- assume maul is 10 mins faster than zs

-assume wfs task is 1 in 15

-after 180 slay tasks ill have got my time back

-maul can also better utilise your triple charms

 

for being paid back after only 5m slay xp thats definately decent

 

also i dont see it as "just speeds up 1 task" but it literaly makes one of the slowest tasks a good deal faster, making a fast task even faster with rapier may save you 3 mins, but making a slow task faster realy packs a punch in ur overall slay xp/h

 

just my 2 cents on the maul for slaying matter

 

You'll get 1 WF task out of maybe 20 tasks, assuming you'd use the rapier on the other 19 tasks, the rapier saves you 57 minutes according to you vs, the 10 minutes the maul saves.

The Rapier is FAR better for slayer then maul. It's honestly not even worth mentioning the maul for slayer :unsure:

 

That may be true that maul is specifically not good for slayer, but when you end up with the extra tokens you might as well get it seeing as how 200k tokens will be possible in a few hours with warped floors.

[SirIzenhime]

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i bought maul solely for wfs tasks, anyone who says a 1 task weapon isnt worth the time

 

1. if i dont spend the tokens on items id just spend it on 200k xp instead

- 200k xp takes 2h

- assume maul is 10 mins faster than zs

-assume wfs task is 1 in 15

-after 180 slay tasks ill have got my time back

-maul can also better utilise your triple charms

 

for being paid back after only 5m slay xp thats definately decent

 

also i dont see it as "just speeds up 1 task" but it literaly makes one of the slowest tasks a good deal faster, making a fast task even faster with rapier may save you 3 mins, but making a slow task faster realy packs a punch in ur overall slay xp/h

 

just my 2 cents on the maul for slaying matter

 

You'll get 1 WF task out of maybe 20 tasks, assuming you'd use the rapier on the other 19 tasks, the rapier saves you 57 minutes according to you vs, the 10 minutes the maul saves.

The Rapier is FAR better for slayer then maul. It's honestly not even worth mentioning the maul for slayer :unsure:

 

That may be true that maul is specifically not good for slayer, but when you end up with the extra tokens you might as well get it seeing as how 200k tokens will be possible in a few hours with warped floors.

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Yes, it's good to get as a second weapon, but the fact he got the maul first only to serve the purpose of speeding up Waterfiend tasks......

[gremmy]

I'm pretty sure Squisher's already got a rapier, lol.

[SirIzenhime]

the way he worded it made it seem like he got it first to me. If it's his second weapon, then yea that makes perfect sense, because now he's got the best of both ends for melee weapons.

[Obtaurian]

You find the greatest conversations when barbarian fishing. This guy was level 114.

 

 

His proof?

 

[AnneFrank]

You find the greatest conversations when barbarian fishing. This guy was level 114.

 

 

His proof?

 

 

Cls works on corp now Obt

[stonewall337]

You find the greatest conversations when barbarian fishing. This guy was level 114.

 

 

His proof?

 

 

Cls works on corp now Obt

It always worked, just not well :D

[jaspershu]

How about this Both cls and rapier has thier perks

 

Cls: bosses

Rapier:Slayer, Sgw, Training

 

Cls=underpowered one handed godsword that is a bit faster w/o spec

Rapier=Whip jacked up on steriods that can stab

Maul=Weaker ags spec every hit