Chaotic Rapier vs Longsword

[Squisher_33]

All I know about eagle eye (Except from what the KB/RS wiki/TIF have to say) is when fighting someone wearing it, I was told in my chatbox that they reduced damage by 13, 18, and 18 damage respectively, against my rapier. So 49 damage out of their 990, while my divine would have soaked up 297 damage.

 

thanks, also what attack was that defending against? since eagle only reduces range and mage

 

im hoping with the new hitsplat and reduce splat update that they shields will get buffed/fixed

 

jagex stated the reaosn behind this update was the dung shiles so maybe theyll become worth it. or at least balanced to be as good as the chaotic weapons

[stonewall337]

All I know about eagle eye (Except from what the KB/RS wiki/TIF have to say) is when fighting someone wearing it, I was told in my chatbox that they reduced damage by 13, 18, and 18 damage respectively, against my rapier. So 49 damage out of their 990, while my divine would have soaked up 297 damage.

 

thanks, also what attack was that defending against? since eagle only reduces range and mage

 

im hoping with the new hitsplat and reduce splat update that they shields will get buffed/fixed

 

jagex stated the reaosn behind this update was the dung shiles so maybe theyll become worth it. or at least balanced to be as good as the chaotic weapons

Oh, my bad. He was using the KITESHIELD, I misread what you said.

[xpx]

Judging by the ''up to 20%'' on rs kb(well, it can't always be wrong, can it?) and the feedback i've got from the few people that have the shields, it is UP TO 10/20% for hits that would otherwise hit for OVER 199 damage. Overall, the damage deducted could be much lower than 5%, so they don't seem worthwhile enough. Both spectral and arcane are better than the range/mage shields and can be bought freely from the ge, the chaotic kite might be good for it's superior defensive stats but divine still seems much better. Also 100k an hour...

[PereGrin]

because of the increased weapon speed, does CR degrade faster then CLS?

[Squisher_33]

because of the increased weapon speed, does CR degrade faster then CLS?

 

i own a rapier and i can personaly say mine has lasted nearly 40 hours per recharge

[gypsyeater]

because of the increased weapon speed, does CR degrade faster then CLS?

 

No, in theory it should degrade slower. As it kills most things faster. Therefore you wont be engaged in combat as long.

[xpx]

because of the increased weapon speed, does CR degrade faster then CLS?

In theory, slower, but the degrading mostly depends on how many monsters you are killing at once- for example, the rapier wouldn't last 5 hours at lighthouse dagannoths, but would last extremely long(~50 hours) at low hp monsters like greater demons. For me, a rapier lasts for around 900k slayer xp(only tasks with rapier counted, using it on every task). 9th charge going right now...

[gypsyeater]

because of the increased weapon speed, does CR degrade faster then CLS?

In theory, slower, but the degrading mostly depends on how many monsters you are killing at once- for example, the rapier wouldn't last 5 hours at lighthouse dagannoths, but would last extremely long(~50 hours) at low hp monsters like greater demons. For me, a rapier lasts for around 900k slayer xp(only tasks with rapier counted, using it on every task). 9th charge going right now...

 

But even at a slayer task killing dragannoths you will be still killing them quicker than a cls. Also even if you where getting 99 str there. It'd still be slower, as you will get 99 faster. Because you will still leave quicker than a cls.

[Obtaurian]

because of the increased weapon speed, does CR degrade faster then CLS?

In theory, slower, but the degrading mostly depends on how many monsters you are killing at once- for example, the rapier wouldn't last 5 hours at lighthouse dagannoths, but would last extremely long(~50 hours) at low hp monsters like greater demons. For me, a rapier lasts for around 900k slayer xp(only tasks with rapier counted, using it on every task). 9th charge going right now...

 

But even at a slayer task killing dragannoths you will be still killing them quicker than a cls. Also even if you where getting 99 str there. It'd still be slower, as you will get 99 faster. Because you will still leave quicker than a cls.

 

With dags, the vast majority of the damage you deal is from your cannon and combat familiar.

[Elf Spice]

So, on slayer tasks, is it recommended to use rapier in single-combat only?

[crashNburn]

It still can make quite a difference if your targets have high hp.

 

Only tasks I don't use my rapier on are daggs/abby specs.

[Zaaps1]

Personally, for Dagannoths (assuming Lighthouse), Kalphites, Aberrant Spectres and Scarabites, I would not use a Chaotic weapon. I'd bring a whip or something because the cannon does a majority of the work. It's not worth paying the 100k or whatever to finish that task with a CR or CLS or whatever.

[Obtaurian]

So, on slayer tasks, is it recommended to use rapier in single-combat only?

 

The only two tasks that I would be wary of using a rapier on (but would probably use it anyway) would be dags and spectres.

[Aneron]

because of the increased weapon speed, does CR degrade faster then CLS?

In theory, slower, but the degrading mostly depends on how many monsters you are killing at once- for example, the rapier wouldn't last 5 hours at lighthouse dagannoths, but would last extremely long(~50 hours) at low hp monsters like greater demons. For me, a rapier lasts for around 900k slayer xp(only tasks with rapier counted, using it on every task). 9th charge going right now...

 

wait, so what you're saying is that fighting 2 monsters simultaneously for 1 minute = 2 minutes of combat for chaotic weapon purposes?

[stonewall337]

Personally, for Dagannoths (assuming Lighthouse), Kalphites, Aberrant Spectres and Scarabites, I would not use a Chaotic weapon. I'd bring a whip or something because the cannon does a majority of the work. It's not worth paying the 100k or whatever to finish that task with a CR or CLS or whatever.

Lighthouse dag task=15 minutes MAX. The CR lasts longer then 10 hours, easily. So its more like 10k for dags, if that.

 

I am still undecided what my 2nd purchase will be. Considering CLS, but I don't know. Crossbow is nice, and I do TD a bit, as well as DKS, besides a little arma, but by far I melee.

[Georgelemmons]

Personally, for Dagannoths (assuming Lighthouse), Kalphites, Aberrant Spectres and Scarabites, I would not use a Chaotic weapon. I'd bring a whip or something because the cannon does a majority of the work. It's not worth paying the 100k or whatever to finish that task with a CR or CLS or whatever.

Lighthouse dag task=15 minutes MAX. The CR lasts longer then 10 hours, easily. So its more like 10k for dags, if that.

 

I am still undecided what my 2nd purchase will be. Considering CLS, but I don't know. Crossbow is nice, and I do TD a bit, as well as DKS, besides a little arma, but by far I melee.

 

15 minutes x the number of dagganoth attacking you = degradation for your Rapier. It'd easily be an hour's worth, possibly more than 2 if the lighthouse is fairly empty.

[Zaaps1]

It's 2m for 10 hours right? That's 200k per hour, so 15 minutes would be 50k, or am I missing something?

[SirIzenhime]

It's 2m for 10 hours right? That's 200k per hour, so 15 minutes would be 50k, or am I missing something?

 

 

 

15 minutes x the number of dagganoth attacking you = degradation for your Rapier. It'd easily be an hour's worth, possibly more than 2 if the lighthouse is fairly empty.

[Zaaps1]

It's 2m for 10 hours right? That's 200k per hour, so 15 minutes would be 50k, or am I missing something?

 

 

 

15 minutes x the number of dagganoth attacking you = degradation for your Rapier. It'd easily be an hour's worth, possibly more than 2 if the lighthouse is fairly empty.

 

So let me get this straight. In 15 minutes, with one monster attacking you, your degrade 1%, but if there are two monsters attacking you, it's 2% The more monsters, the more the degrades?

 

Suddenly, I understand why people told me I was wasting money when I used my CLS at Pest Control :\

[stonewall337]

It's 2m for 10 hours right? That's 200k per hour, so 15 minutes would be 50k, or am I missing something?

 

 

 

15 minutes x the number of dagganoth attacking you = degradation for your Rapier. It'd easily be an hour's worth, possibly more than 2 if the lighthouse is fairly empty.

 

So let me get this straight. In 15 minutes, with one monster attacking you, your degrade 1%, but if there are two monsters attacking you, it's 2% The more monsters, the more the degrades?

 

Suddenly, I understand why people told me I was wasting money when I used my CLS at Pest Control :\

 

No, it goes by YOU attacking, it is similar to barrows. The number of monsters doesn't change degrade speed, except for the shields.

[Zaaps1]

So it doesn't degrade if you aren't attacking?

[xSxqPowerx]

They do degrade faster when you are being attacked more - so it seems likely that it does NOT go by you attacking, but when you get attacked.

[stonewall337]

They do degrade faster when you are being attacked more - so it seems likely that it does NOT go by you attacking, but when you get attacked.

I'd be interested in proof of that, in my (albeit informal) tests, there was no discernible difference.

[Bladewing]

They do degrade faster when you are being attacked more - so it seems likely that it does NOT go by you attacking, but when you get attacked.

I'd be interested in proof of that, in my (albeit informal) tests, there was no discernible difference.

Take it to CT dags and you will have your proof. Went down like 8% in 20 mins there.

[AnneFrank]

Chaotic weapons don't degrade faster when attacked.

Shields degrade faster when soaked.