Chaotic Rapier vs Longsword

[aspeeder]

 

 

The rapier is definitely the best weapon for general use. CLS and CM are more niche weapons, IMO. I'm going with the rapier because it's definitely the best weapon for my purposes, which is slayer, safe PVP, and a little boss hunting.

Based on what friends have told me, wouldn't the CLS be better in any PvP situation?

my friends told me law staff is the best. because they say it is best does not make it so.

You don't have any real friends then.

 

oh snap bladewing, you should go cry in a corner.

 

 

+1.

Sarcasm

And I agree with blade that general advice from random rs friends are rubbish; they're fun to talk to but they're complete rubes when it comes to what's best

 

 

+2, although its funny coming from someone's whose siggy shows her slaying in a DFS :P

Sold it for 90 herb, and it was mostly for show and random clan wars :P ; I was never under the impression that it was good it just looked pretty. Thankfully I did that with something that can be bought and sold, rather than an untradable weapon obtained through tokens.

[Silmandra]

^chaotic longsword.

[Lep]

I think it's safe to say that chaotic rapier is officially better than chaotic longsword.

 

 

Oh well at least it's more balanced with lower lvl weapons like the shields are now from soaking update.

[Th e Doctor]

It always was...not sure why that pic is relevent.

[Quyneax]

It always was...not sure why that pic is relevent.

Look closer...

 

Is that just a display issue, a fake, or is the sword actually without bonusus now?

[Lep]

It always was...not sure why that pic is relevent.

Look closer...

 

Is that just a display issue, a fake, or is the sword actually without bonusus now?

 

Lmao nevermind mines just broken haha, never had it broken before. Why it looks exactly the same when it's broken is beyond me. :oops:

[Peronix]

 

It gives 0 stats now lol. I was wondering why I was always getting owned at clan wars.

 

Wow seriously? :lol:

 

It better not take Jagex a week to fix this one... out of concern for fairness of course. I own a rapier.

 

EDIT: Oh, is that all?

[Silmandra]

Imagine some1 staking millions at old duel arena with this bug..

 

Atleast cls won't get soaked so often..

[Peronix]

Imagine some1 staking millions at old duel arena with this bug..

 

Atleast cls won't get soaked so often..

 

At old dual arena someone with a CLS would have been laughed at and subsequently pwnt by rapier anyway.

[Aurrok]

After reading all these posts, I'll probably be getting a CLS due to the fact I will be maxed when I obtain either or, and I enjoy seeing higher hits, and face it everybody the CLS simply does look better :)

[ghjkl]

Hf dont regret your choice

[MstrMonopoly]

I like Prada guys so I think I'll get the $300 Prada handbag instead of an Xbox 360.

[SirIzenhime]

I don't remember saying you called him dumb...I was referring to where you made the CR>CLS comment and then on.

Nobody said otherwise to that, so there was no reason to bring it up.

 

But now that you did call him dumb (mental), why? What if he never plans to fight bosses/train again...ever. Maybe he just wants a cool looking weapon (subjective) to hold around. It's not like those dung tokens would be going anywhere else.

 

It's a different opinion. Far from mental.

[All_Is_Great]

I don't remember saying you called him dumb...I was referring to where you made the CR>CLS comment and then on.

Nobody said otherwise to that, so there was no reason to bring it up.

 

But now that you did call him dumb (mental), why? What if he never plans to fight bosses/train again...ever. Maybe he just wants a cool looking weapon (subjective) to hold around. It's not like those dung tokens would be going anywhere else.

 

It's a different opinion. Far from mental.

 

Of course the guy's mental, he's getting CLS! God forbid ANYONE get a CLS because the rapier is PROVEN, MATHEMATICALLY to be better. CLS are for idiots who like longer swords {insert [developmentally delayed] sex joke here}. How can the guy pick the CLS when the obvious choice is the rapier, gosh, mental.

 

Jesus, Izenhime, you've been around this thread for quite a while and have over 100 dg, how do you not think someone is a [developmentally delayed] for picking a CLS.

 

If I saw someone with a CLS, I'd ask them why they picked it, and then tell them they are stupid over and over again, and list all the calculations as to why, until he gets that he made the worst mistake of his RS career. Now that idiot has to waste another 20 hourse to get a rapier. I advise you to do the same, so we never have to see another CLS in the game again. Ok?

[SirIzenhime]

I'm going to assume that was sarcasm....

[TheAncient]

Again, to be completely fair, I wouldn't say CLS is useless. It's very marginally better for TD's (depending on switch style), Bandos w/ shield, Safe pvp.

 

The OVERALL better choice is rapier, since it's far better than CLS against low defense and comparable everywhere else. However, that isn't to say rapier is CATEGORICALLY better, in all ways. There's a difference. I don't think it's right to call CLS users "stupid", but I think it IS a mistake to get CLS as your first chaotic.

 

For GENERAL USE:

Rapier>CBow>Maul>Rigour>Staff>CLS>FKS>CKS>EEKS

[SirIzenhime]

For GENERAL USE:

Rapier>CBow>Maul>Rigour>Staff>CLS>FKS>CKS>EEKS

 

Aww, I love my eagle Eye...then again, I only use it for warring as a range tank, which isn't exactly general use :P

[TheAncient]

For GENERAL USE:

Rapier>CBow>Maul>Rigour>Staff>CLS>FKS>CKS>EEKS

 

Aww, I love my eagle Eye...then again, I only use it for warring as a range tank, which isn't exactly general use :P

 

Yeah, I'm probably actually getting EEKS before CKS despite my rank order, but this is because CKS will be useless after I get a div/ely. EEKS will still be useful for avoiding barrages.

 

I still think spectral is better than EEKS, though. I just have no use for tokens and a steady supply from DGing for fun

[All_Is_Great]

Again, to be completely fair, I wouldn't say CLS is useless. It's very marginally better for TD's (depending on switch style), Bandos w/ shield, Safe pvp.

 

The OVERALL better choice is rapier, since it's far better than CLS against low defense and comparable everywhere else. However, that isn't to say rapier is CATEGORICALLY better, in all ways. There's a difference. I don't think it's right to call CLS users "stupid", but I think it IS a mistake to get CLS as your first chaotic.

 

For GENERAL USE:

Rapier>CBow>Maul>Rigour>Staff>CLS>FKS>CKS>EEKS

 

Then again, it COMPLETELY depends on what you do. Some people, like me, don't play on slaying long term. I plan to stop after 85, and getting 40k slayer exp with a whip sounds fine to me. Instead, I planned to play castle wars, so I got a cstaff, and rune fights at edge, so I got a maul (arguably, rapier is good at this too, but it's my preference). If at any time in the future I wanted to train slayer/in general, I'd train dungeoneering for a rapier. It's not like once you choose a CLS first, you can NEVER go back for a second or third item. There are many things a rapier can't do, for example, can you mage with it? Can you range with it?

 

 

One more thing, for those who do intend on only getting 80 dungeoneering, wouldn't it be best to get a well rounded weapon? The cls is very good in pvp, and is probably better than the whip at slaying, and its also good at all those other things you said. So wouldn't it make sense for some people who hate dungeoneering to get the average (but better than other non-dg) weapon for most if not all things? That's just what I think.

[TheAncient]

Again, to be completely fair, I wouldn't say CLS is useless. It's very marginally better for TD's (depending on switch style), Bandos w/ shield, Safe pvp.

 

The OVERALL better choice is rapier, since it's far better than CLS against low defense and comparable everywhere else. However, that isn't to say rapier is CATEGORICALLY better, in all ways. There's a difference. I don't think it's right to call CLS users "stupid", but I think it IS a mistake to get CLS as your first chaotic.

 

For GENERAL USE:

Rapier>CBow>Maul>Rigour>Staff>CLS>FKS>CKS>EEKS

 

Then again, it COMPLETELY depends on what you do. Some people, like me, don't play on slaying long term. I plan to stop after 85, and getting 40k slayer exp with a whip sounds fine to me. Instead, I planned to play castle wars, so I got a cstaff, and rune fights at edge, so I got a maul (arguably, rapier is good at this too, but it's my preference). If at any time in the future I wanted to train slayer/in general, I'd train dungeoneering for a rapier. It's not like once you choose a CLS first, you can NEVER go back for a second or third item. There are many things a rapier can't do, for example, can you mage with it? Can you range with it?

 

 

One more thing, for those who do intend on only getting 80 dungeoneering, wouldn't it be best to get a well rounded weapon? The cls is very good in pvp, and is probably better than the whip at slaying, and its also good at all those other things you said. So wouldn't it make sense for some people who hate dungeoneering to get the average (but better than other non-dg) weapon for most if not all things? That's just what I think.

yes, but only in very extreme cases. Realistically, your claim only applies to accounts whichdo not meler at all. i am confident you made the wrong choice in staff over rapier if you pvp with melee. staff is only more useful than rapier if you simply do not melee at all. rapier is good even if you have a maul. also rapier is proficient at basically all monsters, not just slaying. it is just exceptionally good at slaying. there is nothing remarkable about the cls; it is basically the same as rapier in some cases and much worse in others

and no, the idea of getting only a cls is laughable and stupid. reread this whole thread if you disagree. rapier is an all purpose melee weapon. cls and maul are not.

[amitoz]

So from what I can gather... Rapier>Cls?

[SirIzenhime]

............*sigh*

 

Yes.

[amitoz]

............*sigh*

 

Yes.

Okay, thanks.

[Aurrok]

Again, to be completely fair, I wouldn't say CLS is useless. It's very marginally better for TD's (depending on switch style), Bandos w/ shield, Safe pvp.

 

The OVERALL better choice is rapier, since it's far better than CLS against low defense and comparable everywhere else. However, that isn't to say rapier is CATEGORICALLY better, in all ways. There's a difference. I don't think it's right to call CLS users "stupid", but I think it IS a mistake to get CLS as your first chaotic.

 

For GENERAL USE:

Rapier>CBow>Maul>Rigour>Staff>CLS>FKS>CKS>EEKS

 

Thanks for a genuine response :) Will obviously reconsider once I reach that point. Btw guys what I was saying is, by the time I get a CLS or Rapier I WILL be maxed and most likely 99 slayer. Not to mention, I play the game for the fun not always super efficiently. Although there are times when it's necessary. I will most likely be doing a lot of skilling/TDS/Boss by the time I even get one of these.

 

I'm not dumb I swear lol, just preference :/

[amitoz]

Again, to be completely fair, I wouldn't say CLS is useless. It's very marginally better for TD's (depending on switch style), Bandos w/ shield, Safe pvp.

 

The OVERALL better choice is rapier, since it's far better than CLS against low defense and comparable everywhere else. However, that isn't to say rapier is CATEGORICALLY better, in all ways. There's a difference. I don't think it's right to call CLS users "stupid", but I think it IS a mistake to get CLS as your first chaotic.

 

For GENERAL USE:

Rapier>CBow>Maul>Rigour>Staff>CLS>FKS>CKS>EEKS

 

Thanks for a genuine response :) Will obviously reconsider once I reach that point. Btw guys what I was saying is, by the time I get a CLS or Rapier I WILL be maxed and most likely 99 slayer. Not to mention, I play the game for the fun not always super efficiently. Although there are times when it's necessary. I will most likely be doing a lot of skilling/TDS/Boss by the time I even get one of these.

 

I'm not dumb I swear lol, just preference :/

How do you prefer one over the other when you don't yet have it?