Chaotic Rapier vs Longsword

[PereGrin]

Chaotic Rapier is definately better for slayer tasks, and CLS is better for PvP (except for whip boxing) and boss hunting.

 

You can eat twice between two longsword hits. Good luck getting a ko :wink:

That's only true of the first hit. The next 2 hits you can only eat once between.

[ghjkl]

Chaotic Rapier is definately better for slayer tasks, and CLS is better for PvP (except for whip boxing) and boss hunting.

god not this again...

sometimes I wish this thread could just die

[Tenebri]

83 pages worth of discussion?

 

i thought it was rather simple

 

rapier beats cls

 

end of

[green9090]

83 pages worth of discussion?

 

i thought it was rather simple

 

rapier beats cls

 

end of

This is the case for everyone who isn't mad that they bought a longsword first and are now doomed to justify their decision for all time.

[xSxqPowerx]

83 pages worth of discussion?

 

i thought it was rather simple

 

rapier beats cls

 

end of

This is the case for everyone who isn't mad that they bought a longsword first and are now doomed to justify their decision for all time.

As much as I hate even posting here to bring this discussion back, I'm definitely on the side of the rapier even though I bought CLS first. (Back when people still thought they were even-ish <_< )

Quickly saw my error and got rapier. CLS has a few small niches, but yes, everyone should get rapier first.

[green9090]

I didn't mean to imply that everyone who bought CLS first now supports CLS, but rather that everyone who now supports CLS bought CLS first. Of course there are rational people who realized their mistake and went on to get a rapier, but it seems to me that there are a whole lot of CLS supporters who suspiciously don't own a rapier.

[GoldTatze]

I have a Rapier I might add, but I have been hit 700's on to get K0ed enough to know CLS is great for PvP.

[Just_Ne_Pker]

I bought my CLS first and I didn't regret it, since I already had 99 slayer anyway and I used CLS for TDS and DKS. Yes, I use it for slayer too, but that wasn't my priority, so I'm happy with it ^_^

 

PS: Dungeoneering is fun anyway and if you invest some time, you can get a decent stack of tokens very fast, which gives you a 2nd chaotic weapon in like what, 1 week? Just get them both and everyone is happy :D

[Soma2035]

83 pages worth of discussion?

 

i thought it was rather simple

 

rapier beats cls

 

end of

This is the case for everyone who isn't mad that they bought a longsword first and are now doomed to justify their decision for all time.

As much as I hate even posting here to bring this discussion back, I'm definitely on the side of the rapier even though I bought CLS first. (Back when people still thought they were even-ish <_< )

Quickly saw my error and got rapier. CLS has a few small niches, but yes, everyone should get rapier first.

 

To be fair, I went Rapier first and I've regretted it ever since.

[SirIzenhime]

I have a Rapier I might add, but I have been hit 700's on to get K0ed enough to know CLS is great for PvP.

 

Unless you're talking about safe pvp, that is not possible.

[GoldTatze]

I have a Rapier I might add, but I have been hit 700's on to get K0ed enough to know CLS is great for PvP.

 

Unless you're talking about safe pvp, that is not possible.

I am. Staking. and maybe i axagerated (spelling) a little bit. I have definately been hit over 700 before, but not constistantly. Didn't want to give off the vibe I just get wrecked all the time. :D

[Sir_Squab]

83 pages worth of discussion?

 

i thought it was rather simple

 

rapier beats cls

 

end of

This is the case for everyone who isn't mad that they bought a longsword first and are now doomed to justify their decision for all time.

As much as I hate even posting here to bring this discussion back, I'm definitely on the side of the rapier even though I bought CLS first. (Back when people still thought they were even-ish <_< )

Quickly saw my error and got rapier. CLS has a few small niches, but yes, everyone should get rapier first.

 

To be fair, I went Rapier first and I've regretted it ever since.

 

I'd really like to know your stats. You're the first person I've heard of who (I'm getting the impression) got the rapier then the longsword and actually likes the longsword better.

 

I'd really like to know your stats and what you do with it.

 

And lol @ above two posts:

 

"You better be talking about X use if you say CLS is good.

 

I am."

[green9090]

^This. I can't imagine a single place you'd be enjoying your CLS and wouldn't want a maul instead, unless you have a divine and exclusively solo Sara with melee and the KQ.

[Golvellius]

If your in Castle wars with profound armour then you know only two things work, rapier and CLS.

CLS if your the man.

Rapier if your the clown fishing to get owned.

[SirIzenhime]

If your in Castle wars with profound armour then you know only two things work, rapier and CLS.

CLS if your the man.

Rapier if your the clown fishing to get owned.

 

Assuming you're against other high levels with good gear (bandos+ defense wise), then you're actually correct.

 

I can't believe I just said that.... :unsure:

 

Although, the second you find a person under 120 cb (assuming average stats, and not some tank account), rapier is better for taking them down.

[Assume Nothing]

Well, that's a niche use. Why not use a VLS?

[Youmu]

Well, that's a niche use. Why not use a VLS?

You can continually use a chaotic longsword as long as you repair every 25 hours of combat or so. The repair cost is like what, 2m?

 

Vesta's longsword degrades after 1 hour and costs over 30m to buy another.

[Assume Nothing]

Well, that's a niche use. Why not use a VLS?

You can continually use a chaotic longsword as long as you repair every 25 hours of combat or so. The repair cost is like what, 2m?

 

Vesta's longsword degrades after 1 hour and costs over 30m to buy another.

 

That's true, but it's still a niche use nonetheless. I would always choose Rapier first, for one simple reason: It's hard to get bored of it.

[Soma2035]

83 pages worth of discussion?

 

i thought it was rather simple

 

rapier beats cls

 

end of

This is the case for everyone who isn't mad that they bought a longsword first and are now doomed to justify their decision for all time.

As much as I hate even posting here to bring this discussion back, I'm definitely on the side of the rapier even though I bought CLS first. (Back when people still thought they were even-ish <_< )

Quickly saw my error and got rapier. CLS has a few small niches, but yes, everyone should get rapier first.

 

To be fair, I went Rapier first and I've regretted it ever since.

 

I'd really like to know your stats. You're the first person I've heard of who (I'm getting the impression) got the rapier then the longsword and actually likes the longsword better.

 

I'd really like to know your stats and what you do with it.

 

And lol @ above two posts:

 

"You better be talking about X use if you say CLS is good.

 

I am."

 

I don't do anything with a Longsword, because I don't have one. I don't do anything with my Rapier either besides the occasional slayer task, and that's the problem. Since I've gotten my first Chaotic, I've basically only done the following:

 

- Nex, where Rapier isn't that useful, even on mages

- Corporeal Beast, where Rapier is basically useless unless you're fooling around

- Dungeoeering, where Rapier is entirely useless

- Training non-cb skills (Farming, Crafting, Construction, Fishing, Smithing, Herblore), during which Rapier is entirely useless

 

I'd much rather have gone Crossbow - Rigour - Maul than Rapier - Maul - Crossbow like I've done. I might get back to Slaying one day, but I'm pretty sure I'd be able to afford another Chaotic long before I start power-slaying again.

[Sir_Squab]

If your in Castle wars with profound armour then you know only two things work, rapier and CLS.

CLS if your the man.

Rapier if your the clown fishing to get owned.

 

Assuming you're against other high levels with good gear (bandos+ defense wise), then you're actually correct.

 

I can't believe I just said that.... :unsure:

 

Although, the second you find a person under 120 cb (assuming average stats, and not some tank account), rapier is better for taking them down.

 

Wow. A person who is more or less from the efficiency crowd said Gol is correct. -mind[bleep]-

 

*brain explodes*

 

To above poster: Slayer is actually one of the areas where Rapier really, really shines. From that list of what you do though, pretty sure the CLS would also be useless.

[Soma2035]

 

To above poster: Slayer is actually one of the areas where Rapier really, really shines. From that list of what you do though, pretty sure the CLS would also be useless.

 

Quickly saw my error and got rapier. CLS has a few small niches, but yes, everyone should get rapier first.

 

To be fair, I went Rapier first and I've regretted it ever since.

 

Reading comprehension please. I know it's good for slayer, but for me, that's all it's good for, and I don't do much of it anymore.

 

I never once said I wanted CLS instead. I just said I regretted getting Rapier first, in response to someone saying everyone should get Rapier first.

[Sir_Squab]

 

To above poster: Slayer is actually one of the areas where Rapier really, really shines. From that list of what you do though, pretty sure the CLS would also be useless.

 

Quickly saw my error and got rapier. CLS has a few small niches, but yes, everyone should get rapier first.

 

To be fair, I went Rapier first and I've regretted it ever since.

 

Reading comprehension please. I know it's good for slayer, but for me, that's all it's good for, and I don't do much of it anymore.

 

I never once said I wanted CLS instead. I just said I regretted getting Rapier first, in response to someone saying everyone should get Rapier first.

 

Fair enough. But I'm curious. What DO you wish you got before it?

[Soma2035]

Fair enough. But I'm curious. What DO you wish you got before it?

 

I went Rapier, Maul, Crossbow, and I'm currently working on Rigour.

 

I think I would've preferred Maul, Crossbow, Rigour, with the next 200K being saved for either a replacement CCB or a Rapier if I decide to go back to Slayer.

[Aiel]

Fair enough. But I'm curious. What DO you wish you got before it?

 

I went Rapier, Maul, Crossbow, and I'm currently working on Rigour.

 

I think I would've preferred Maul, Crossbow, Rigour, with the next 200K being saved for either a replacement CCB or a Rapier if I decide to go back to Slayer.

cmaul is only significantly better at nex, sgwd (team), WFS, wyverns

CCBow is only really good at nex and agwd as karils/HC out dps's it everywhere else. Rigour should always be gotten before ccbow.

 

rapier is best at bandos, dks, zgwd, slayer, frosts, all training.

 

PKing and TDs are a toss up depending on play style.

 

The fact is, CCBow and maul are more of niche weapons, and CR is much more useful overall, so while CR may not have been best for your play style, over all it is the better choice.

[Obtaurian]

All Soma does is Nex. :P