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While looking at guides for various things, and talking to some players, I hear a lot about D.I.Y. in Runescape. For instance, players making their own rune armor or gathering there own 2nd ingredients for Herblore. I never understood this because the way I look at it, gathering your own 2nd ingredients can maybe net you 200-400k per hour profit if you sold them, whereas there are many ways to make 3x, 4x even 5x and more that amount by doing various other things..

 

So what are the benefits of "doing it yourself?" Besides the bs about "the joy of accomplishing it on your own or whatever" because making the money and buying the supplies and still having 600k seems like a much better "accomplishment" to me..

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It's 100% just for fun. No "real benefit".


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If your approach to Runescape is to find the fastest method, you're working, not playing...


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I play this game for fun, I don't care about xp waste or efficiency. DIYing just happens to be the most fun for me.

Efficiency is a measure of output gained per unit of input. In Runescape, the input are time and effort, and the outputs are xp and fun.

 

Don't say that fun and efficiency are even remotely conflicting ever again.

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The people who do this drive me crazy, and even when I try to explain it to them they don't seem to understand that they could make money and then buy the stuff faster. They don't say "I know, but this is more fun" which I could respect.


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If your approach to Runescape is to find the fastest method, you're working, not playing...

Efficiency is a measure of output gained per unit of input. In Runescape, the input are time and effort, and the outputs are xp and fun.

 

Don't say that fun and efficiency are even remotely conflicting ever again.

 

ftfy

 

Also, some people enjoy figuring out what the most efficient method is.


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There is no benefit if your goal is to obtain maximum levels in the shortest game time possible. I prefer to not always be efficient because I find it more enjoyable and fun. Many people prefer to save up items over time rather than earn cash to buy those items.

 

Keep in mind, that if every single player on RS tried to do the most efficient methods, then those methods have to change. For example let us assume that the best method for crafting XP is black leather crafting. What happens when every single player decides there is a better alternative than killing black dragons? Of course the prices change and suddenly it becomes worth killing them again.

 

DIY means that you don't have to worry about whether someone does the lower level tasks required to do whatever method you chose (creating air orbs, for example.) It comes at a cost of significant time increase to obtain some rewards.


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I play this game for fun, I don't care about xp waste or efficiency. DIYing just happens to be the most fun for me.

Efficiency is a measure of output gained per unit of input. In Runescape, the input are time and effort, and the outputs are xp and fun.

 

Don't say that fun and efficiency are even remotely conflicting ever again.

 

I don't see him saying that at all.


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If your approach to Runescape is to find the fastest method, you're working, not playing...

Efficiency is a measure of output gained per unit of input. In Runescape, the input are time and effort, and the outputs are xp and fun.

 

Don't say that fun and efficiency are even remotely conflicting ever again.

ftfy

I don't see him saying that at all.

Probably a misquote :P.

 

Anyway, DIY can give a sense of achievement just like levelling can. It's awesome to put your own, DIY-ed rare drops on.

 

More directly, when glacors were released I bought an arcane sigil for 5m under the price of an arcane spirit shield - being able to forge the shield made me 4m there.


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I have a DIY account, and while it isn't yet very high level, I'm really enjoying it. Just getting my first dragon weapons felt like a much bigger achievement!

And even though the playstyle is DIY, it doesn't mean I can't still be efficient within the accounts restrictions, which is nice


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As everyone else mentioned, just for fun :rolleyes:

 

It's also nice not to have the pressure of selling an expensive item, you find/make something, you keep it..

 

Eg. Hunting some butterflies earlier, in jars they're 1.2k each, and I'm DIY, so I'm not going to sell them, but I still banked them, just as a collection. Then I googled them, turns out the butterflies are an ingredient in Summoning, so I'll keep saving them <_<

 

DIY brings some more diversity to the game, you don't spend 50 hours camping a monster for money to buy some new armour, you go and solo the boss that drops it *for 50 hours :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: *


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Whats the benefit of turning up the difficulty level on a video game nowadays?

It's for people who like a challenge.

Before the grand exchange, it was more of a mainstream style since trading took forever and so many noobs tried to rip you off.


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it was more of a mainstream style since trading took forever and so many noobs tried to rip you off.

 

I don't think DIY has been 'mainstream' since early RSC a la Bluerose-era smithing.


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I think there's another element to DIY-ing...

 

I think, that gathering almost everything yourself provides you with a sense that in this never-stands-still game could be the island of peace for you... Think of how fast updates follow one another, and how that can affect XP-rates or prices of products... Or how about the fluctuations of the market itself...

 

No, I think that gathering these products yourself, you'll know how long it might take you, you know how much it will cost you in the end (very little, ofc), and above all; you know how much you're getting out of it...

 

A sense of security in this ever changing game is, to some people, worth far more than a few GP or a slightly faster XP-rate...

This is just as big a reason for some people, just as fun is for others...


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Hit the nail on the head ^^

 

Being DIY, you can ignore the economy collapsing/items skyrocketing, just do whatever you want really :blink:

 

It might be slower, but it's very satisfying when you finally unlock something.


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While looking at guides for various things, and talking to some players, I hear a lot about D.I.Y. in Runescape. For instance, players making their own rune armor or gathering there own 2nd ingredients for Herblore. I never understood this because the way I look at it, gathering your own 2nd ingredients can maybe net you 200-400k per hour profit if you sold them, whereas there are many ways to make 3x, 4x even 5x and more that amount by doing various other things..

 

So what are the benefits of "doing it yourself?" Besides the bs about "the joy of accomplishing it on your own or whatever" because making the money and buying the supplies and still having 600k seems like a much better "accomplishment" to me..

 

Yeah, to YOU. Not everyone has the same opinions as you, as you can clearly see by some of the replies on this thread. People do what's fun in this game. Some people think efficiency is really fun. Some people think taking things easy and doing things themselves is fun. No need to call bs on something just because you don't agree.


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I've never been completely DIY but I had somebody teach me how to be semi-DIY (Yes I know that sounds stupid) a few months ago. It was almost like getting in a time machine and going back to pre-Grand Exchange RS, back then I had a lot more fun playing for whatever reason. A lot of it is just nostalgia for me.


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Just for the record: DIY means DECIDING that you choose to do actions with the limitation of your own character at that point. There is a big difference between people not knowing other methods, not having means to other methods or the actual DIY who willingly and knowingly chooses to do so (which we are discussing here).

 

Like I said, just for the record, so we are all on the same page.


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I'm largely DIY on my main, which has 2338 total at the moment. Apart from the adamant bars for 99 smithing, there are few things I've bought. My armour (the classical whip, bandos, neitiznot helmet, dfs,...) are gathered by myself, I slay without familiars or potions (which changed a little now, I use a pack yak for dragon bones and infernal ashes and so on, and of course prayer potions and antifire potions for deflecting high damages, but I don't use super/extreme/overloads).

I don't know why I play like this, but I enjoy it, I don't care about the exp I get per hour. I largely play the same way as I used to play 8 years ago, call me old fashioned, but I like how things go now, which is why I'm slightly annoyed when Jagex suddenly reworks certain parts of the game.

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There aren't any real benefits to DIYing, but you have a huge E-Penis when you do it right.


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While looking at guides for various things, and talking to some players, I hear a lot about D.I.Y. in Runescape. For instance, players making their own rune armor or gathering there own 2nd ingredients for Herblore. I never understood this because the way I look at it, gathering your own 2nd ingredients can maybe net you 200-400k per hour profit if you sold them, whereas there are many ways to make 3x, 4x even 5x and more that amount by doing various other things..

 

So what are the benefits of "doing it yourself?" Besides the bs about "the joy of accomplishing it on your own or whatever" because making the money and buying the supplies and still having 600k seems like a much better "accomplishment" to me..

There's benefits to making your own stuff and gathering your own stuff, like what you said. Your % profit per will go up, your feeling of 'achievement' will go up. It is not necessarily the best way to go about playing, since you can do things for quicker cash and spend the extra money on getting it done faster. Same goes for xp rates.

 

For full DIY (no trading except quest-required things like Heroes/Shield of Arrav or NPC's), you can benefit by not worrying about the price of x items going down or up (that's my main benefit if I were to go full DIY), a different style of gameplay, more 'achievements' so to speak, larger challenges. There are negatives like effort and time spent, but the overall objective of a "Game" is to have fun. Just do as you please.

 

I'm largely DIY on my main, which has 2338 total at the moment. Apart from the adamant bars for 99 smithing, there are few things I've bought. My armour (the classical whip, bandos, neitiznot helmet, dfs,...) are gathered by myself, I slay without familiars or potions (which changed a little now, I use a pack yak for dragon bones and infernal ashes and so on, and of course prayer potions and antifire potions for deflecting high damages, but I don't use super/extreme/overloads).

I don't know why I play like this, but I enjoy it, I don't care about the exp I get per hour. I largely play the same way as I used to play 8 years ago, call me old fashioned, but I like how things go now, which is why I'm slightly annoyed when Jagex suddenly reworks certain parts of the game.

 

After posting my first bit I remembered something that relates to this post. 8 years ago or so, when I first played RuneScape, I had been basically all DIY. I had bought a nice amt of items that were hard to find like Rune Battleaxe or the kiteshield, but up until I was a member, I got everything on my own from shops and the like. I can say with a nice amount of confidence that I was a happier scaper back before I did trading a lot or became member even.


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For me it depends on what I am doing.

Sometimes when you try and but the things you want on GE you find no one is selling. Then I have no choice but to get it myself (summer pies for me atm are not selling, so I had to make my own yesterday)

 

I find it self satisfying knowing I did it myself. I play for fun and diy is fun for me. I care about xp gains at times, but 95% its fun driven for the game.

When it stops being fun, then there is no point in playing. If you find that buying the stuff you want is what floats yr boat that fine with me. Its a personal choice- and after all thats one of the things that makes us human, not copying everyone else, and being unique.


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I could be described as semi-DIY as well... All those little things like, making dyes at Aggie in Draynor or making my own equipment for achievment diaries or quests, making my own potions (I just unlocked super str). This also helps to break the monotony when I'm grinding :) So you could say I'm kind of DIY. But still I'm like an average player, buying the fighting equipment from GE, buying logs for fletching from GE.

 

In the end it's up to everyone else to decide their gamestyle.

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