Dangarous3 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 While looking at guides for various things, and talking to some players, I hear a lot about D.I.Y. in Runescape. For instance, players making their own rune armor or gathering there own 2nd ingredients for Herblore. I never understood this because the way I look at it, gathering your own 2nd ingredients can maybe net you 200-400k per hour profit if you sold them, whereas there are many ways to make 3x, 4x even 5x and more that amount by doing various other things.. So what are the benefits of "doing it yourself?" Besides the bs about "the joy of accomplishing it on your own or whatever" because making the money and buying the supplies and still having 600k seems like a much better "accomplishment" to me.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 It's 100% just for fun. No "real benefit". [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trade_With Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Different play-style for people who want a bit more of a challenge on a new account. No real benefits. @Trade_With Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Runar Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I play this game for fun, I don't care about xp waste or efficiency. DIYing just happens to be the most fun for me. The Runar's (OSRS) DIY blog - most viewed Blogscape blog ever! Contract? /人◕ ‿‿ ◕人\ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Omar Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 If your approach to Runescape is to find the fastest method, you're working, not playing... Matt: You want that eh? You want everything good for you. You want everything that's--falls off garbage can Camera guy: Whoa, haha, are you okay dude? Matt: You want anything funny that happens, don't you? Camera guy: still laughing Matt: You want the funny shit that happens here and there, you think it comes out of your [bleep]ing [wagon] pushes garbage can down, don't you? You think it's funny? It comes out of here! running towards Camera guy Camera guy: runs away still laughing Matt: You think the funny comes out of your mother[bleep]ing creativity? Comes out of Satan, mother[bleep]er! nn--ngh! pushes Camera guy down Camera guy: Hoooholy [bleep]! Matt: FUNNY ISN'T REAL! FUNNY ISN'T REAL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hedgehog Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I play this game for fun, I don't care about xp waste or efficiency. DIYing just happens to be the most fun for me.Efficiency is a measure of output gained per unit of input. In Runescape, the input are time and effort, and the outputs are xp and fun. Don't say that fun and efficiency are even remotely conflicting ever again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arceus Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 The people who do this drive me crazy, and even when I try to explain it to them they don't seem to understand that they could make money and then buy the stuff faster. They don't say "I know, but this is more fun" which I could respect. "Fight for what you believe in, and believe in what you're fighting for." Can games be art? --- My blog here if you want to check out my Times articles and other writings! I always appreciate comments/feedback. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sir_Squab Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 If your approach to Runescape is to find the fastest method, you're working, not playing...Efficiency is a measure of output gained per unit of input. In Runescape, the input are time and effort, and the outputs are xp and fun. Don't say that fun and efficiency are even remotely conflicting ever again. ftfy Also, some people enjoy figuring out what the most efficient method is. Squab unleashes Megiddo! Completed all quests and hard diaries. 75+ Skiller. (At one point.) 2000+ total. 99 Magic.[spoiler=The rest of my sig. You know you wanna see it.]my difinition of noob is i dont like u, either u are better then me or u are worst them meBuying spins make you a bad person...don't do it. It's like buying nukes for North Korea.Well if it bothers you that the game is more fun now, then you can go cry in a corner. :shame:your article was the equivalent of a circumcized porcupineThe only thing wrong with it is the lack of a percentage for when you need to stroke it. Poignant Purple to Lokie's Ravishing Red and Alg's Brilliant Blue. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 There is no benefit if your goal is to obtain maximum levels in the shortest game time possible. I prefer to not always be efficient because I find it more enjoyable and fun. Many people prefer to save up items over time rather than earn cash to buy those items. Keep in mind, that if every single player on RS tried to do the most efficient methods, then those methods have to change. For example let us assume that the best method for crafting XP is black leather crafting. What happens when every single player decides there is a better alternative than killing black dragons? Of course the prices change and suddenly it becomes worth killing them again. DIY means that you don't have to worry about whether someone does the lower level tasks required to do whatever method you chose (creating air orbs, for example.) It comes at a cost of significant time increase to obtain some rewards. Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I play this game for fun, I don't care about xp waste or efficiency. DIYing just happens to be the most fun for me.Efficiency is a measure of output gained per unit of input. In Runescape, the input are time and effort, and the outputs are xp and fun. Don't say that fun and efficiency are even remotely conflicting ever again. I don't see him saying that at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quyneax Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 If your approach to Runescape is to find the fastest method, you're working, not playing...Efficiency is a measure of output gained per unit of input. In Runescape, the input are time and effort, and the outputs are xp and fun. Don't say that fun and efficiency are even remotely conflicting ever again.ftfyI don't see him saying that at all.Probably a misquote :P. Anyway, DIY can give a sense of achievement just like levelling can. It's awesome to put your own, DIY-ed rare drops on. More directly, when glacors were released I bought an arcane sigil for 5m under the price of an arcane spirit shield - being able to forge the shield made me 4m there. Supporter of Zaros | Quest Cape owner since 22 may 2010 | No skills below 99 | Total level 2595 | Completionist Cape owner since 17th June 2013 | Suggestions 99 summoning (18th June 2011, previously untrimmed) | 99 farming (14th July 2011) | 99 prayer (8th September 2011) | 99 constitution (10th September 2011) | 99 dungeoneering (15th November 2011) 99 ranged (28th November 2011) | 99 attack, 99 defence, 99 strength (11th December 2011) | 99 slayer (18th December 2011) | 99 magic (22nd December 2011) | 99 construction (16th March 2012) 99 herblore (22nd March 2012) | 99 firemaking (26th March 2012) | 99 cooking (2nd July 2012) | 99 runecrafting (12th March 2012) | 99 crafting (26th August 2012) | 99 agility (19th November 2012) 99 woodcutting (22nd November 2012) | 99 fletching (31st December 2012) | 99 thieving (3rd January 2013) | 99 hunter (11th January 2013) | 99 mining (21st January 2013) | 99 fishing (21st January 2013) 99 smithing (21st January 2013) | 120 dungeoneering (17th June 2013) | 99 divination (24th November 2013) Tormented demon drops: twenty effigies, nine pairs of claws, two dragon armour slices and one elite clue | Dagannoth king drops: two dragon hatchets, two elite clues, one archer ring and one warrior ring Glacor drops: four pairs of ragefire boots, one pair of steadfast boots, six effigies, two hundred lots of Armadyl shards, three elite clues | Nex split: Torva boots | Kalphite King split: off-hand drygore mace 30/30 Shattered Heart statues completed | 16/16 Court Cases completed | 25/25 Choc Chimp Ices delivered | 500/500 Vyrewatch burned | 584/584 tasks completed | 4000/4000 chompies hunted Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Octarine Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I have a DIY account, and while it isn't yet very high level, I'm really enjoying it. Just getting my first dragon weapons felt like a much bigger achievement!And even though the playstyle is DIY, it doesn't mean I can't still be efficient within the accounts restrictions, which is nice Blog of DG, Bossing (mostly Glacors) and stuff - Runetrack Play Safe! - Got useful information for the tip.it website? Post here! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabbage5 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 As everyone else mentioned, just for fun :rolleyes: It's also nice not to have the pressure of selling an expensive item, you find/make something, you keep it.. Eg. Hunting some butterflies earlier, in jars they're 1.2k each, and I'm DIY, so I'm not going to sell them, but I still banked them, just as a collection. Then I googled them, turns out the butterflies are an ingredient in Summoning, so I'll keep saving them <_< DIY brings some more diversity to the game, you don't spend 50 hours camping a monster for money to buy some new armour, you go and solo the boss that drops it *for 50 hours :wall: :wall: :wall: :wall: * Click for blog - Thanks to Iglw for the amazing signature ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Golvellius Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Whats the benefit of turning up the difficulty level on a video game nowadays?It's for people who like a challenge.Before the grand exchange, it was more of a mainstream style since trading took forever and so many noobs tried to rip you off. Exclusive Legacy Mode Player He just successfully trolled you with "courtesy" and managed to get a reaction out of you. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 it was more of a mainstream style since trading took forever and so many noobs tried to rip you off. I don't think DIY has been 'mainstream' since early RSC a la Bluerose-era smithing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ts_Stormrage Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I think there's another element to DIY-ing... I think, that gathering almost everything yourself provides you with a sense that in this never-stands-still game could be the island of peace for you... Think of how fast updates follow one another, and how that can affect XP-rates or prices of products... Or how about the fluctuations of the market itself... No, I think that gathering these products yourself, you'll know how long it might take you, you know how much it will cost you in the end (very little, ofc), and above all; you know how much you're getting out of it... A sense of security in this ever changing game is, to some people, worth far more than a few GP or a slightly faster XP-rate...This is just as big a reason for some people, just as fun is for others... Former Leader of The Tal Shiar Alliance - An Original Tip.it ClanMember of the Wilderness Guardians and Founder of the Silent GuardiansFounder of The Conclave - A Tip.it Clan institutionTip.it Times author (click for all my articles) - When I use the wrong reasons to make the right statement, argue the reason, not the statement.MSSW4 General - Did we kick your ass too?Check us out!==> No seriously, if you like FREE GP, XP and Dung tokens, as well as Community, Opportunity and above all FUN... <==CLICK IT! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kabbage5 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Hit the nail on the head ^^ Being DIY, you can ignore the economy collapsing/items skyrocketing, just do whatever you want really :blink: It might be slower, but it's very satisfying when you finally unlock something. Click for blog - Thanks to Iglw for the amazing signature ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blakdragon39 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 While looking at guides for various things, and talking to some players, I hear a lot about D.I.Y. in Runescape. For instance, players making their own rune armor or gathering there own 2nd ingredients for Herblore. I never understood this because the way I look at it, gathering your own 2nd ingredients can maybe net you 200-400k per hour profit if you sold them, whereas there are many ways to make 3x, 4x even 5x and more that amount by doing various other things.. So what are the benefits of "doing it yourself?" Besides the bs about "the joy of accomplishing it on your own or whatever" because making the money and buying the supplies and still having 600k seems like a much better "accomplishment" to me.. Yeah, to YOU. Not everyone has the same opinions as you, as you can clearly see by some of the replies on this thread. People do what's fun in this game. Some people think efficiency is really fun. Some people think taking things easy and doing things themselves is fun. No need to call bs on something just because you don't agree. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ellac Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I've never been completely DIY but I had somebody teach me how to be semi-DIY (Yes I know that sounds stupid) a few months ago. It was almost like getting in a time machine and going back to pre-Grand Exchange RS, back then I had a lot more fun playing for whatever reason. A lot of it is just nostalgia for me. Thanks to Iglw for the amazing signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
12pure34 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 Just for the record: DIY means DECIDING that you choose to do actions with the limitation of your own character at that point. There is a big difference between people not knowing other methods, not having means to other methods or the actual DIY who willingly and knowingly chooses to do so (which we are discussing here). Like I said, just for the record, so we are all on the same page. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HunterDexter Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 I'm largely DIY on my main, which has 2338 total at the moment. Apart from the adamant bars for 99 smithing, there are few things I've bought. My armour (the classical whip, bandos, neitiznot helmet, dfs,...) are gathered by myself, I slay without familiars or potions (which changed a little now, I use a pack yak for dragon bones and infernal ashes and so on, and of course prayer potions and antifire potions for deflecting high damages, but I don't use super/extreme/overloads). I don't know why I play like this, but I enjoy it, I don't care about the exp I get per hour. I largely play the same way as I used to play 8 years ago, call me old fashioned, but I like how things go now, which is why I'm slightly annoyed when Jagex suddenly reworks certain parts of the game. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Boris5000 Posted April 9, 2012 Share Posted April 9, 2012 There aren't any real benefits to DIYing, but you have a huge E-Penis when you do it right. Luck be a Lady Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ren Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 While looking at guides for various things, and talking to some players, I hear a lot about D.I.Y. in Runescape. For instance, players making their own rune armor or gathering there own 2nd ingredients for Herblore. I never understood this because the way I look at it, gathering your own 2nd ingredients can maybe net you 200-400k per hour profit if you sold them, whereas there are many ways to make 3x, 4x even 5x and more that amount by doing various other things.. So what are the benefits of "doing it yourself?" Besides the bs about "the joy of accomplishing it on your own or whatever" because making the money and buying the supplies and still having 600k seems like a much better "accomplishment" to me..There's benefits to making your own stuff and gathering your own stuff, like what you said. Your % profit per will go up, your feeling of 'achievement' will go up. It is not necessarily the best way to go about playing, since you can do things for quicker cash and spend the extra money on getting it done faster. Same goes for xp rates. For full DIY (no trading except quest-required things like Heroes/Shield of Arrav or NPC's), you can benefit by not worrying about the price of x items going down or up (that's my main benefit if I were to go full DIY), a different style of gameplay, more 'achievements' so to speak, larger challenges. There are negatives like effort and time spent, but the overall objective of a "Game" is to have fun. Just do as you please. I'm largely DIY on my main, which has 2338 total at the moment. Apart from the adamant bars for 99 smithing, there are few things I've bought. My armour (the classical whip, bandos, neitiznot helmet, dfs,...) are gathered by myself, I slay without familiars or potions (which changed a little now, I use a pack yak for dragon bones and infernal ashes and so on, and of course prayer potions and antifire potions for deflecting high damages, but I don't use super/extreme/overloads). I don't know why I play like this, but I enjoy it, I don't care about the exp I get per hour. I largely play the same way as I used to play 8 years ago, call me old fashioned, but I like how things go now, which is why I'm slightly annoyed when Jagex suddenly reworks certain parts of the game. After posting my first bit I remembered something that relates to this post. 8 years ago or so, when I first played RuneScape, I had been basically all DIY. I had bought a nice amt of items that were hard to find like Rune Battleaxe or the kiteshield, but up until I was a member, I got everything on my own from shops and the like. I can say with a nice amount of confidence that I was a happier scaper back before I did trading a lot or became member even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fat_Slug Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 For me it depends on what I am doing.Sometimes when you try and but the things you want on GE you find no one is selling. Then I have no choice but to get it myself (summer pies for me atm are not selling, so I had to make my own yesterday) I find it self satisfying knowing I did it myself. I play for fun and diy is fun for me. I care about xp gains at times, but 95% its fun driven for the game.When it stops being fun, then there is no point in playing. If you find that buying the stuff you want is what floats yr boat that fine with me. Its a personal choice- and after all thats one of the things that makes us human, not copying everyone else, and being unique. Runescape nick : Fat_SlugOwner of Ears, Scythe and a 10 year veteran cape :D Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Marquis Posted April 10, 2012 Share Posted April 10, 2012 I could be described as semi-DIY as well... All those little things like, making dyes at Aggie in Draynor or making my own equipment for achievment diaries or quests, making my own potions (I just unlocked super str). This also helps to break the monotony when I'm grinding :) So you could say I'm kind of DIY. But still I'm like an average player, buying the fighting equipment from GE, buying logs for fletching from GE. In the end it's up to everyone else to decide their gamestyle. Dark MarquisVisit my tiny blog. The current HYT relationships Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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