Moderator Application Discussion Thread - Check your Inboxes

[Albosky]

I'd like to remind everyone to READ the announcement..

 

 

 

 

 

ANY contact with ANY member of our staff asking for the status of an application or how they are reviewed is grounds for an instant denial.

 

 

 

YOU will here from US if you are chosen to move further in the process.

[Gin_and_Tonic]

I've seen many people posting on this particular thread alot, but i wouldn't say i've seen you on other parts of this forum :-s

 

 

 

Anyway guys, i'll post my goodlucks. Nothing wrong with healthy rivalry.

[n_odie]

 

Of course, since I am essentialy behind two firewalls, I am hacker-proof. \

 

 

 

Keep telling yourself that if it makes you feel better.

 

 

 

lol, no one is safe in this technological world

 

 

 

XD

[Codguy]

Well I was going to send in an application, but just had one question to clarify. When it asks for our operating system, what does this mean exactly? Both words are quite vague, even when in the same phrase. Does this mean our computer system, internet system or browser? Or something else that I'm not thinking of? Just wanted to clarify before I sent something in.

[____]

I haven't heard of a single situation where the reason for leaving was personal problems with other staff members.

Living under a rock when I quit were you :P

 

 

 

 

 

Personal problems with other staff members has been the bane of 3, maybe 4, people quiting that I know of.

[Freesia]

Well I was going to send in an application, but just had one question to clarify. When it asks for our operating system, what does this mean exactly? Both words are quite vague, even when in the same phrase. Does this mean our computer system, internet system or browser? Or something else that I'm not thinking of? Just wanted to clarify before I sent something in.

 

Operating systems are programs that run your software in your computer. Things like Windows, Mac, Linux are operating systems (OS).

[Codguy]

Alright, thanks for that. That was my first guess, but I didn't want to have a completely clueless answer up there in case I was wrong.

[Gamerr]

I'll give my views on this "new" way of going:

 

 

 

1. I've said it elsewere, and I say it again. Why the hell is it of big importance what kind of PC you got? I'll tell you, I have windows 98, no firewall, no virus scan even and I have not got ANY virus, popups etc. in 8 years. How does it come? I don't visit sites and don't download things that aren't thrustable. And that, ladies and gentleman is important instead of what operation system you have. For all the people who will pick on this, I am not applying but I just find it ridiculous that the computer you have matters in applications.

 

 

 

2. Tip it wants more traffic, and then some staff members are overreacting over people who are interested in knowing how it goes with their application. I'd say, people who SHOW interest should be rewarded. But meh.

[Bobbington]

I'll give my views on this "new" way of going:

 

 

 

1. I've said it elsewere, and I say it again. Why the hell is it of big importance what kind of PC you got? I'll tell you, I have windows 98, no firewall, no virus scan even and I have not got ANY virus, popups etc. in 8 years. How does it come? I don't visit sites and don't download things that aren't thrustable. And that, ladies and gentleman is important instead of what operation system you have. For all the people who will pick on this, I am not applying but I just find it ridiculous that the computer you have matters in applications.

 

 

 

2. Tip it wants more traffic, and then some staff members are overreacting over people who are interested in knowing how it goes with their application. I'd say, people who SHOW interest should be rewarded. But meh.

 

 

 

How do you know? most viruses keyloggers and other spyware are not their to destroy your computer..... then sit at the back and will go unnoticed. You say you have no firewall, antivirus etc? Well you almost definatly have some spyware.

 

 

 

Account security is very very important! if you somhow recived a very bad virus you have no defence against it. You must understand moderators have acsess to very sensivtive infomation, protected by Data protection laws, and infomation on prodeurce and operations that cannot be out in the general public.

 

 

 

The adminisraitors need to be sure that you are safe! sure you will never be 100% safe, but there needs to be alot of security. I will admit windows 98 is one of the best windows systems there has been, although now with it's age there are alot of flaws in it.

 

 

 

Your computer is not secure, in alot of cases you only need to be connected to the internt to be at risk, especially without a firewall! it's crazy in this day and age to not use a firewall!

 

 

 

Also remember, even tip.it forums is not secure, there are images and files zapping around all over the place.... although it is well managed, and i would not class it as a dangerous place to be it is most definatly not secure.

 

 

 

 

 

As for point 2, it comes down to fairness..... the moderators and admin have a right to be left in peace, they dont want to be constanly harrased about aplicatiosn that they probaly dont know about.

[Satenza]

 

 

 

2. Tip it wants more traffic, and then some staff members are overreacting over people who are interested in knowing how it goes with their application. I'd say, people who SHOW interest should be rewarded. But meh.

 

 

 

Yes, thats quite ironic. "Show your interest and submit an application, show your intrest any further and be denied".

[Gamerr]

How do you know? most viruses keyloggers and other spyware are not their to destroy your computer..... then sit at the back and will go unnoticed. You say you have no firewall, antivirus etc? Well you almost definatly have some spyware.

 

 

 

I don't got spyware, and if I do it's because of the ads of tip it who link to keyloggers. :-w

[Laikrob]

 

 

 

2. Tip it wants more traffic, and then some staff members are overreacting over people who are interested in knowing how it goes with their application. I'd say, people who SHOW interest should be rewarded. But meh.

 

 

 

Yes, thats quite ironic. "Show your interest and submit an application, show your intrest any further and be denied".

 

 

 

As one of the TET leaders, I have dealt with TET applications. That process have worked similar to this one, so I have a fair idea of what amount of work it takes. I would guess each of us spent a total of an hour on each application - these might easily require more time.

 

 

 

If 50 applicants PMs us once a week, we'd get nothing done or we'd have people upset because we don't reply. I am pretty sure the amount of people interested in becoming moderators is a lot bigger than the number of TET applicants, maybe several hundreds. We already know they're interested, otherwise they wouldn't be bothered to spend time on filling out the application. :) If people have general questions, they can ask them on this thread - that's why it's here.

 

 

 

Short version is: The less time the Admins spend to reply to curious PM's (sometimes quite pushy PMs), the less time it takes before they can send their replies to the interested users.

 

 

 

Bobbington replied very well on the other point.

 

 

 

Laikrob

[Satenza]

Yes, i remember going through the CTET applications and that being difficult. If someone is being pushy make that the reason for rejecting them, not contacting or asking a question to a staff member.

[Gamerr]

 

 

 

2. Tip it wants more traffic, and then some staff members are overreacting over people who are interested in knowing how it goes with their application. I'd say, people who SHOW interest should be rewarded. But meh.

 

 

 

Yes, thats quite ironic. "Show your interest and submit an application, show your intrest any further and be denied".

 

 

 

As one of the TET leaders, I have dealt with TET applications. That process have worked similar to this one, so I have a fair idea of what amount of work it takes. I would guess each of us spent a total of an hour on each application - these might easily require more time.

 

 

 

If 50 applicants PMs us once a week, we'd get nothing done or we'd have people upset because we don't reply. I am pretty sure the amount of people interested in becoming moderators is a lot bigger than the number of TET applicants, maybe several hundreds. We already know they're interested, otherwise they wouldn't be bothered to spend time on filling out the application. :) If people have general questions, they can ask them on this thread - that's why it's here.

 

 

 

Short version is: The less time the Admins spend to reply to curious PM's (sometimes quite pushy PMs), the less time it takes before they can send their replies to the interested users.

 

 

 

Bobbington replied very well on the other point.

 

 

 

Laikrob

 

 

 

My point is that some admins and some mods around here really feel better then the users, and let it notice quite clearly.

[Freesia]

1. I've said it elsewere, and I say it again. Why the hell is it of big importance what kind of PC you got? I'll tell you, I have windows 98, no firewall, no virus scan even and I have not got ANY virus, popups etc. in 8 years. How does it come? I don't visit sites and don't download things that aren't thrustable. And that, ladies and gentleman is important instead of what operation system you have. For all the people who will pick on this, I am not applying but I just find it ridiculous that the computer you have matters in applications.

 

Firewalls are walls that stand between the internet and computer. If you enter the internet without a proper firewall, you are more or less holding a sign "hack me" to the sea of hackers out there, and they don't have to use malware to harm your computer.

[Dragontotem]

1. I've said it elsewere, and I say it again. Why the hell is it of big importance what kind of PC you got? I'll tell you, I have windows 98, no firewall, no virus scan even and I have not got ANY virus, popups etc. in 8 years. How does it come? I don't visit sites and don't download things that aren't thrustable. And that, ladies and gentleman is important instead of what operation system you have. For all the people who will pick on this, I am not applying but I just find it ridiculous that the computer you have matters in applications.

 

Firewalls are walls that stand between the internet and computer. If you enter the internet without a proper firewall, you are more or less holding a sign "hack me" to the sea of hackers out there, and they don't have to use malware to harm your computer.

 

 

 

oh, i dont know if im going a bit off-topic in this chat, but umm..

 

Yes, waht Freesia said, is quite correct, and ->I<- think that if you dont have a virus stuffs or firewalls, you might get a keylogger/something even you dont know (like.. how can you tell if you dont have a program to tell?) and then if you become member of tip.it staff, then your virus spreads all over the pages and woof, jagex gonna banz tip.it as a "fansite of virus'".. yea, perhaps not, but i assure you that it sounded better in my head than now that i write it!

 

 

 

[misterxman]

 

My point is that some admins and some mods around here really feel better then the users, and let it notice quite clearly.

 

 

 

That point/view has nothing to do with your earlier statement regarding people asking for their application progress, but Laikrob pretty much explained the issue.

[mario_sunny]

Tip.it needs to stop focusing on their security of the site and start focusing on the behavior of their staff members. Staff members are supposed to be mature, understanding people; but I have seen some of them feel they are "superior" to users. I will not go into detail nor mention any names, but this is all true. Is this the kind of haughty behavior moderators should carry?

 

 

 

Moderators are supposed to be respected people; people everyone can look up to. But with these arrogant remarks I don't think some of them deserve that definition anymore.

 

 

 

One of the first things you will have to learn to do is your actions are noticed by everyone. Things that would have been acceptable to post as a user aren't quite as acceptable afterwards.

 

 

 

An excellent quote.

 

 

 

So, what the staff needs to focus on is personal interviews. A simple application with a few questions isn't enough to determine if you've got yourself a good moderator or not.

 

 

 

Take jagex, for example. How do they pick their forum mods? They study their actions as a user and if they feel the user is fit for the job then they will ask the user if he wants to be uped to the mod status. Now I don't know about you, but that's a foolproof plan. I'm sure bobbington can tell you this is all true.

 

 

 

With tip.it applications though, it's just a simple recruitment drive. You don't actually know anything about the user you are making the moderator, he/she just answers a few questions and in days is a moderator.

 

 

 

Interviews will help eliminate this though. I'd seriously say shooting for a half hour or more interview where a respected member of the staff(perferably an admin) personally interviews users who wish to try out for a moderator position. Also, more questions. Ask them about their previous jobs as a high status member; anyone could lie or simply think they have but don't have the skills on the "Do you have the skills to work well on a team?" question. Instead of "Do you have time to commit to helping us make Tip.It the best RuneScape forum?," ask them about their time schedule, and be specific with days of weeks and everything.

 

 

 

Make the conversation like you're actually talking to your friend, make it casual so the user feels comfortable answering questions honestly. Get personal with your users.

 

 

 

This decision to make sure all moderators have a secure PC is comparable to denying someone entry to a restaurant because they wear a certain pair of clothes; it's borderline ridiculous, I really can't put it any nicer way. This decision greatly limited the amount of eligible moderators, possible "non-secure" moderators before that could have been better than the "secure" moderators. Believe it or not, not that many people have good firewalls that are constantly updated. How many times do you hear about someone being hacked with a firewall? Yes it pops up, but very rarely.

 

 

 

Tip.it needs to stop limiting and focus more on the behavior of their moderators and future moderators. I must say though, the majority of the moderators out there have been doing an excellent job at keeping these boards clean and at the same time, doing it in a mature manner.

 

 

 

Also, could you also explain a little bit more about what generally is in the moderator trainee program? It could be the actual mod training program should be more personal too.

[eyehawk78]

Take jagex, for example. How do they pick their forum mods? They study their actions as a user and if they feel the user is fit for the job then they will ask the user if he wants to be uped to the mod status. Now I don't know about you, but that's a foolproof plan. I'm sure bobbington can tell you this is all true.

 

Which is how TIF's have been doing it up until this temporary recruitment drive. Is it not?

 

 

 

With tip.it applications though, it's just a simple recruitment drive. You don't actually know anything about the user you are making the moderator, he/she just answers a few questions and in days is a moderator.

 

You have massively over simplified. The people who have applied will have there forum history thoroughly checked, the same as any other new moderater that is nominated by a current staff member currently does.

 

All this recruitement drive is doing is telling the admins who would be willing to take up the job. Some people are asked to take on the role and turn it down.

 

In short its not just answer these questions correctly and *ping* you are a mod, congratulations.

 

 

 

This decision to make sure all moderators have a secure PC is comparable to denying someone entry to a restaurant because they wear a certain pair of clothes; it's borderline ridiculous, I really can't put it any nicer way. This decision greatly limited the amount of eligible moderators, possible "non-secure" moderators before that could have been better than the "secure" moderators. Believe it or not, not that many people have good firewalls that are constantly updated. How many times do you hear about someone being hacked with a firewall? Yes it pops up, but very rarely.

 

Still if someone with an infected computer managed to infect sensitive areas of the forum software/servers etc, we'd could be royally screwed. I believe this is sensible action, better to be safe than sorry.

[tripsis]

Okay I think we all need to cool down a little bit :wall: To respond to a few of your comments, mario_sunny:

 

 

 

Tip.it needs to stop focusing on their security of the site and start focusing on the behavior of their staff members. Staff members are supposed to be mature, understanding people; but I have seen some of them feel they are "superior" to users. I will not go into detail nor mention any names, but this is all true. Is this the kind of haughty behavior moderators should carry?

 

 

 

Moderators are supposed to be respected people; people everyone can look up to. But with these arrogant remarks I don't think some of them deserve that definition anymore.

 

 

 

Trust me when I say that we do not permit any of our staff members that disrespect other users. If you see it happen, you can't just complain about it and not inform us. We have a lot to do as it is and will obviously not catch every comment made by every staff member. If you see something that stands out to you in a negative fashion, let an administrator know. That way we can actually handle it. If you refuse to inform us, then you really have no reason whatsoever to complain because by refusing to act, you are also letting them get away with it.

 

 

 

So, what the staff needs to focus on is personal interviews. A simple application with a few questions isn't enough to determine if you've got yourself a good moderator or not.

 

 

 

Take jagex, for example. How do they pick their forum mods? They study their actions as a user and if they feel the user is fit for the job then they will ask the user if he wants to be uped to the mod status. Now I don't know about you, but that's a foolproof plan. I'm sure bobbington can tell you this is all true.

 

 

 

With tip.it applications though, it's just a simple recruitment drive. You don't actually know anything about the user you are making the moderator, he/she just answers a few questions and in days is a moderator.

 

 

 

That's certainly not true. We will not pick our candidates based 100% on the application. There's much more to it than that, and I'm not sure why you thought that is all we would do. We make an effort to study users' behavior, we don't just rely on how well they answer a series of questions. There are just a few specific answers we need to help guide us in our decision making.

 

 

 

This decision to make sure all moderators have a secure PC is comparable to denying someone entry to a restaurant because they wear a certain pair of clothes; it's borderline ridiculous, I really can't put it any nicer way. This decision greatly limited the amount of eligible moderators, possible "non-secure" moderators before that could have been better than the "secure" moderators. Believe it or not, not that many people have good firewalls that are constantly updated. How many times do you hear about someone being hacked with a firewall? Yes it pops up, but very rarely.

 

 

 

I think that is a very, very extreme comparison. If someone wears a certain pair of clothes into a restaurant, they will not affect anybody whatsoever. Some people may not like their outfit, but whatever. They're not hurting anybody by wearing it. Denying someone access to a restaurant because of it is a matter of picking and choosing favourites. It's not like we're saying, "You're not using my favourite virus scanner, so we cannot allow you to join the team." If someone joins the moderator team who does not have a secure PC, they put the entire forum and community at risk. You would be surprised at how many people have keyloggers and don't even know it. What happens if we allow someone to join the staff who has a keylogger? Someone gains access to their account, and now they have the power to erase important stickies, guides or blogs that took hours to create. Or they can delete days/weeks/months/years of work off of the Tip.it Website.

 

 

 

In fact, if an administrator for example, doesn't have a secure PC and gets keylogged, you may not have a Tip.it to come back to. So much damage could be done and that it's not a risk we're willing to take.

 

 

 

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I hope I didn't come across as harsh, as that was certainly not my intention. I'm just trying to successfully get my point across, in hopes that you will see our side of the situation. In summary, we do care about the entire staff's behavior. If you see an inappropriate post made by a staff member, you're encouraged to let us know. Just because we have opened moderator applications does not mean that we're relying on them to make our decision. It is a much longer and in-depth process than that. And security is extremely important and is not all that difficult to obtain. Download some virus and spyware scanners and make weekly scans. In my opinion, I'd think that people would strive to make their PC secure, whether they're on the staff or not. I can't imagine why anybody would want to have a computer that is unstable or has a serious lack of security.

[Bobbington]

The recruitment method for the offical forums is flawless, if there is a problem to be spotted it can be spotted. I am not sure how exactly it works (as they dont tell us) but they can watch our every move for weeks, getting a huge amount of knowledge on our attiture on the forums, and ingame. Sure especially with player mods the odd bad one gets through.... but from no fault of Jagex.

 

 

 

for this forum it is limited strictly to the forums sadly, although good desissions are still made, there is a small equasions that can work on.

 

 

 

1. is the computer secure?

 

 

 

it yes proceed

 

 

 

2. Do the have along enough history to call a judgment on

 

 

 

If yes proceed

 

 

 

3. How is their posting attitude? spelling, grammer (helpfull but not essensial), etc etc

 

 

 

if good proceed.

 

 

 

4. How strong is their aplication?

 

 

 

If good Mod!

 

 

 

 

 

The views are problay those of many differnt peopel to spot issues.

[ThruItAll]

I sent mine in, hope I get in. Good luck to all applicants... :D

[mario_sunny]

Okay I think we all need to cool down a little bit :wall: To respond to a few of your comments, mario_sunny:

 

 

 

Believe me that I wasn't trying to be harsh in this. If I was, I apologize.

 

 

 

Tip.it needs to stop focusing on their security of the site and start focusing on the behavior of their staff members. Staff members are supposed to be mature, understanding people; but I have seen some of them feel they are "superior" to users. I will not go into detail nor mention any names, but this is all true. Is this the kind of haughty behavior moderators should carry?

 

 

 

Moderators are supposed to be respected people; people everyone can look up to. But with these arrogant remarks I don't think some of them deserve that definition anymore.

 

 

 

Trust me when I say that we do not permit any of our staff members that disrespect other users. If you see it happen, you can't just complain about it and not inform us. We have a lot to do as it is and will obviously not catch every comment made by every staff member. If you see something that stands out to you in a negative fashion, let an administrator know. That way we can actually handle it. If you refuse to inform us, then you really have no reason whatsoever to complain because by refusing to act, you are also letting them get away with it.

 

 

 

I have informed a staff member of such a behavior. I do not remember the staff member's name nor the moderator who felt himself "superior" to a user in one such post; but I do remember reporting them.

 

 

 

What I am trying to achieve with my idea is to stop bad moderator behavior before it happens. I am aware that I can report the behavior to a staff member, but wouldn't it be great if we could actually prevent this?

 

 

 

That's what my idea is about. I believe starting now staff members need to get more personal so things like this don't happen. Moderator is supposed to be an important job right? So make the recruitment important!

 

 

 

So, what the staff needs to focus on is personal interviews. A simple application with a few questions isn't enough to determine if you've got yourself a good moderator or not.

 

 

 

Take jagex, for example. How do they pick their forum mods? They study their actions as a user and if they feel the user is fit for the job then they will ask the user if he wants to be uped to the mod status. Now I don't know about you, but that's a foolproof plan. I'm sure bobbington can tell you this is all true.

 

 

 

With tip.it applications though, it's just a simple recruitment drive. You don't actually know anything about the user you are making the moderator, he/she just answers a few questions and in days is a moderator.

 

 

 

That's certainly not true. We will not pick our candidates based 100% on the application. There's much more to it than that, and I'm not sure why you thought that is all we would do. We make an effort to study users' behavior, we don't just rely on how well they answer a series of questions. There are just a few specific answers we need to help guide us in our decision making.

 

 

 

Are you refering to the Trainee program? Please explain how this works so I can have a better understanding of it. I apologize for assuming that.

 

 

 

This decision to make sure all moderators have a secure PC is comparable to denying someone entry to a restaurant because they wear a certain pair of clothes; it's borderline ridiculous, I really can't put it any nicer way. This decision greatly limited the amount of eligible moderators, possible "non-secure" moderators before that could have been better than the "secure" moderators. Believe it or not, not that many people have good firewalls that are constantly updated. How many times do you hear about someone being hacked with a firewall? Yes it pops up, but very rarely.

 

 

 

I think that is a very, very extreme comparison. If someone wears a certain pair of clothes into a restaurant, they will not affect anybody whatsoever. Some people may not like their outfit, but whatever. They're not hurting anybody by wearing it. Denying someone access to a restaurant because of it is a matter of picking and choosing favourites. It's not like we're saying, "You're not using my favourite virus scanner, so we cannot allow you to join the team." If someone joins the moderator team who does not have a secure PC, they put the entire forum and community at risk. You would be surprised at how many people have keyloggers and don't even know it. What happens if we allow someone to join the staff who has a keylogger? Someone gains access to their account, and now they have the power to erase important stickies, guides or blogs that took hours to create. Or they can delete days/weeks/months/years of work off of the Tip.it Website.

 

 

 

Ok, I can agree we need security around here at tip.it. I am still bothered, though, by the fact that the eligible amount of people for moderator has dramatically decreased. The limiting really needs to stop here, there are some good possible moderators out there that now won't be able to join.

 

 

 

I hope I didn't come across as harsh, as that was certainly not my intention. I'm just trying to successfully get my point across, in hopes that you will see our side of the situation. In summary, we do care about the entire staff's behavior. If you see an inappropriate post made by a staff member, you're encouraged to let us know. Just because we have opened moderator applications does not mean that we're relying on them to make our decision. It is a much longer and in-depth process than that. And security is extremely important and is not all that difficult to obtain. Download some virus and spyware scanners and make weekly scans. In my opinion, I'd think that people would strive to make their PC secure, whether they're on the staff or not. I can't imagine why anybody would want to have a computer that is unstable or has a serious lack of security.

 

 

 

A cheap little virus scan won't cut it, honestly. It's the firewalls you actually pay for monthly that are detirmined to keep the keyloggers off your computer. Mc afee and norton are some awesome firewalls that are automatically updated weekly and run automatic virus scans. If you really want tip.it to be secure you would make sure people have a good, not decent or cheap, firewall.

 

 

 

I'm not surprised actually how many people have a keylogger. There are so many people out there who simply don't have a firewall because they think they are "in-hackable" because they have never been hacked before. Sadly, not that many people strive to make their PC secure.

 

 

 

Also, could you please reply to my interview idea? I want some feedback on that, and I'm not giving it up.

 

 

 

Also- there is a tool that allows you to view every user's posts he ever made. This could be a handy tool in deciding whether or not someone is fit for a moderator position.

[Abelmisi]

I don't get some people here...

 

 

 

The application process is not only limited to reading the application, I assume Moderators and Admins (or whoever looks at the apps) take time to look at your posting habits and much more. It's not just 5 minutes of reading the PM and then deciding whether the person is fit for the job or not.

 

We will also not get told how the exact process is, just accept the staff's word that they take their time well.

[Bobbington]

Also, could you please reply to my interview idea? I want some feedback on that, and I'm not giving it up.

 

 

 

Also- there is a tool that allows you to view every user's posts he ever made. This could be a handy tool in deciding whether or not someone is fit for a moderator position.

 

 

 

I will give you my view on this, whilst yes inverviews are quite good there is a limit to their usefullness. If i was doing one I would only include questions about personality, intrests, aims in life etc to better understant the person.

 

 

 

I would never use an interview in this situation to judge the suitability to the moderator postion..... as esentially people will lie! It's a sad fact of life that means the chances are it's not worth trusting alot of people.

 

 

 

The use of tool for viewing posts I almost certainaly guarentee is already used! it is probaly the most effective tool that tip.it has in it's limited arseonal.

 

 

 

As already stated this job comes with alot of risk and responsiblity, as a moderator more people will attempt to gain you account, so if you security is not upto scratch you are at a greater then normal risk. This is why account security is so very important.

 

 

 

Also it is a must to get a feel for the users personality, although not reflective of suiablity the first posts a user made can show alot of personality. The position is hard! it's like the army adverts 99.9% need not apply..... the chances are you won't like the responsibility that comes with the job. Admin also has the challenge of trying to root out all the people who they think wont like the job, if a moderator leaves after a few days, they are taking all that infomation with them and can cause alot of damage.

 

 

 

 

 

Personally I am not applying due to time shortages in real life, although I did consider it.... it's a case that I can't currently provide the commitment level needed to the team and it's not fair of me to apply (also I am not the worlds best :P).

 

 

 

I do wish good luck to all people applying though, if you honestly think you can provide the commitment, and the level of respect I wish you all the best.