Flamebait, or is it?

[AlexDT]

It's an internet game aimed at kids and young adults. People frequently pick fights for no solid reason, due simply to the anonymity. Unfortuntely, it's part of the territory. However, I do agree - unless what you've done is against the rules, you've trained the skill in the correct way. Of course, it might be a bit much to say that 99 cooking achieved by buying the raw fish is as much an achievement as doing it by cooking fish that you've fished yourself, but obviously the additional 99 fishing would make that obvious.

 

 

 

Also, with the magic-in-fight-pits thing, if you can't beat them, join them. If you can't actually cast the devastating spell, you shouldn't be flaming the person in the first place. But if you can, why not use it? It's like flaming someone in the duel arena because they're using a godsword and you're wearing a whip and a santa hat.

[-Sardonic-]

Well I think my general response to this type of topic is pretty much what you insinuated. Jealousy, envy and all of those other negative selfish descriptive words.

 

 

 

Play like me or be an outcast.

 

 

 

as an example to my above post, let me point out a flamboyant hypocrite in action.

 

 

 

i used to see you in several in-game runescape chats pestering and harassing players for using cheap and efficient methods other than slayer. god forbid.

[Laura]

the hypocrisy of this thread and the posters is rampant.

 

 

 

many people ive seen agreeing with the original poster of this thread have flamed and criticized players on these boards and in-game for using quick and efficient methods of training, like pest control.

 

 

 

edit: so has the original poster.

 

I'm sure we've all done it before maybe without realizing it, but that's not my point now is it? It's the broad spectrum of people who deem it acceptable and do it towards a group or specific number of people. On that note I'd like you to quote me where I had flamed a specific user/s.

[-Sardonic-]

there is no moral estrangement between the murderer that deems his actions acceptable and the murderer that rejects his actions as wrong.

 

 

 

i dont have time or patience to search through your post history to come up with quotes of you flaming. you already know the instances in which you have criticized others for how they play a game, and therefore there is no need for me to cite examples.

[Laura]

there is no moral estrangement between the murderer that deems his actions acceptable and the murderer that rejects his actions as wrong.

 

 

 

i dont have time or patience to search through your post history to come up with quotes of you flaming. you already know the instances in which you have criticized others for how they play a game, and therefore there is no need for me to cite examples.

 

So you're saying:

 

 

 

a) You've never passed judgement upon another player for what he thinks is the best way.

 

B) Say that I am hypocritical because I flame another player/s, but offer no proof of the matter. I'm sorry my memory is a bit short and I don't recall any. But if you believe I have, you're free to refresh it.

 

 

 

I'd ask for only discussions of the topic from this point on, please.

[Toad]

Well the game depends on how long you play, or how deep your pixel pocket is, i honestly dont respect cooking, fletching thieving firemaking or quest capes.. but thats just me personally i mean i dont say anything but when i say grats to a friend who says "YES 98 COOKING" i dont really mean it, i'm just being polite.

 

 

 

why flame in a game though i do it out of frustration sometimes but i dont attack the player i usually say it at their action not them personally like i lined up 3 orbs at great orb project then the kid on ourteam repelled them away. i ranted of it because i want to win obviously but in the long term thats insignificant.

 

 

 

but this arguement is based on opinion the game impliments experience points to train a skill if you use one of those items whether its making sarabrews or attack pots at the end of the day its time taken/xp but you cant judge this game on skill because its click and wait, its not reaction time and accuracy like a FPS.

 

 

 

most people flame out of jealousy, like i see people with phats or a rare, and low stats and think its a waste, but i would love to have that money to spend on skills, so more like i wish them personally would have spent it on something better.

 

 

 

Runescape is a game you can't win, theres black and white, say i have 70 slayer, people will say haha lame.. then i get 99 slayer one day and im a nerd not that i'm not one already i admit that but i dont really care.

 

 

 

People in combat who say things like farcaster, or don't safe, don't pray, have simply done too much monster killing pvp is supposed to be hard so they aren't prepared they should bring a bow or whatever.

 

 

 

To me i've played this game nearly 7 years now and to be honest with you i never really flamed in that time, i started playing when i was 11 turning 12 and i depended on total strangers when i started off playing which i think now if i went around as a level 3 now i wouldnt get the help i would have done in an old tight knit community, i asked someone politely if they would buy me bronze knives when i started a low level character for me to train for fun he did, if that was a higher level they would tele or blank me, so i dont think its right to generalise, i know some really nice 138s and they can be a jerk, but they can also be sweet, it depends on first impressions.

 

 

 

In combat minigames i do get frustrated so i rarely go, i havent been pking since BH, i rarely enter castlewars because usually its a 20 V 1 me on the recieving end and my way of venting is logging off, and i think the reason peopel say such things is because they know its a person behind that character that they can get some kind of response that will make them feel better about themselves, they wouldnt say farcaster to aberrant spectres.

 

 

 

So yeah theres no answer to this topic i've done the typical thing of writing jibberish until it makes sense and it doesnt, thanks.

 

 

 

I think on the whole its down to the person and the ignore list is really your friend i wish i could mute the half of RS, but for now its chat on hide.

[Amaranth_GTO]

Nice read :

 

 

 

Most people say it because they're jealous, or because they didn't know about that way to train when they were your level. Or just because they're rotten people.

[Blingkachi50]

This thread reminds me of someone who hangs around edge sometimes, who thinks he's better than everyone because he's 1 summoning.

 

 

 

Mc you pc prod L0L...

[nwor]

If I started flaming people for being self righteous braggarts, would it mean that I'm jealous because I really want to be self righteous enough to consider myself better than everyone, or because I'm too stupid or lazy to know how to brag properly?

 

 

 

<3 the irony of the thread though :thumbsup: people flaming people for being flamers is 100% pure unadulterated lulz.

 

We aren't flaming them. We are saying that the flames aren't as socially acceptable as to think they are. Other then that, what are you talking about? :?

 

 

 

You're funny when you try to troll people.

 

 

 

Or maybe you're funny when you're oblivious?

 

 

 

I don't know, but I'm laughing either way, and thank you for that. :)

 

 

 

If you want a serious reply, this is all I have- the internet is filled with people that act like even bigger jerks than they really are IRL (IRL is important, because the internet isn't real and it's not part of anyone's life). There's as many different reasons behind why they act like a jerk as there are people. The fastest easiest most efficient most respectable way to deal with it is just don't waste your time letting it bother you. Because if you let it get under your skin, and then you start complaining about it, you just might end up sounding like just as big of a jerk as the people you're complaining about, but for different reasons.

[Maximusa]

I think theres a big difference between the days when PC gave tons of xp and chinning at ape atol or whatever. The xp was TOO good due to the nature of the skill. The difference then was there was barely any maxed out combat characters. Those generally who were high combat had the high stats. No before I get those people saying bla bla I had high combat with low stats.. good for you.. but dont argue with the fact the majority DID have high stats and you KNEW you could look up to them. They were mature etc. Pc changed that.. it made alot of people angry because suddenly those who they respected became right childish gits. Everywhere you went you saw a maxed out combat character who wernt very mature for their age.

 

 

 

Now certain things like the cooking skill, some people are pissed off because they did it the harder way. They 'didnt have the choice' about the cook-x option. Now personally I didnt have 99 cooking before cook-x, I still dont.. I think I can understand why it must be frustrating though. I think its easier for anyone who didnt achieve 99 cooking before cook-x to just flame those who hate the cooking skill without thinking about their reasons. Anyone else is an jealous idiot though.

 

 

 

Things like chinning imo are great examples of using your brain. Its not like cook-x at all.. its simply a new weapon that makes things better for the skill. You can choose to use it at the 'cost' of the chins or continue to range some other way. It 'costs' money to chin so its hardly an 'easy' choice for most people. I think anyone who hates chinning is a die hard ranger, poor, doesnt know how to chin, or some other random reason I cant think of.

 

 

 

As for the the original post.. Since the release of summoning granite mining has changed. It is now both fast xp and good money. Its one of the main secondary items for summoning so its great money mining granite 500g aswell as fast xp. Use a camulet or the scepter to tele there, teleport to castlewars to bank, use a beast of burden to carry items. Use the tiara to protect from dying of thirst. Use the achievement armor for the chance of mining more than one ore, use the advanced desert bottoms to protect from the heat etc etc. Good money and fast xp.

[Dharockslayer]

When people start flaming you, they want something of you, or want to bring you down. In either cases, you lose.

 

 

 

Ignore list, or use inner peace, because the anonymous brats aren't going to stop whining and ranting. Its the internet, have fun.

[Our_Moon]

We flame because we can't think of a better way to express our feelings; (it's the same with swearing, too, actually.)

 

 

 

Some level 82 or 86, i forget, came up to me while cannoning Hellhounds last night, and told me to put my f-ing cannon away. I'm muted, so i just stopped its shooting, and continued after he ran off a bit, irritating him until he hopped. He's jealous because he can't do what i'm doing, or because my training inhibits his training. Hellhounds are never "open" to one person per world; if you want that, go to Ardougne, and kill them. We were all made equal, and thus, he's not better than me by any means.

[Perakp]

I'm sure we've all been flamed before, for one thing or another.

 

I have not been flamed, because I know how to and when to use my ignore list.

 

 

 

All rants or discussions about problems in the 'community' are only around because of people's inability to use their ignore lists.

 

 

 

:wall:

[alex_Lei1993]

I don't have to say much, but I'm sure everyone knows what I'm talking about. 4 words: Cooking and Quest capes.

[sarg1010]

Everything you do is flamebait to someone else. No matter what. Whether you win a minigame because of "farcasting"* or get a skill faster than others, it's always the "bad way" of doing it.

 

 

 

*btw, farcasting has got to be the stupidest insult (besides def nub) ever made. I mean mage isn't meant to be up close and personal combat wise. Mage robes have barely any defense, so it's only sensible to cast from afar. Just like range.

[tintin113]

People only flame you when you're doing something better than them. It's jealousy taking the form of trying to make the better person feel insecure in some pathetic attempt to console themselves. If you get flamed, feel proud that you're so much better than that person that they feel the need to ridicule you.

[Fairness]

Don't you know the first rule of MMO's? Anyone higher level than you has no life, and anyone lower than you is a noob.

 

thx for the sig

 

 

 

I have the original, credit to Gid:

 

 

 

[Wouter828]

Well, the people training that same skill the slow inefficient way need to have some way to reason why they did it that way and not the other.

 

People making other people feel bad to feed their self-esteem isn't new to this world :roll:

[SwreeTak]

The more flamed something is the better or more efficient it is. People try to flame someone elses skills to compensate for what they are lacking. They flame methods because they can't do it. They flame items because they can't afford them. All in all most of the flamers are jerks who are jealous.

 

 

 

This pretty much explains everything when it comes to flaming. Why it is there and how it works. It is as simple as people who flame others are actually envious on the person that they do flame.

[999134]

99% of flaming is out of jealousy.

 

98% of stantitics are made up ;)

[Rune_User]

If you don't conform with everyone else, you're seen as an outcast.

 

 

 

It's always been like this.

[Omali]

Don't you know the first rule of MMO's? Anyone higher level than you has no life, and anyone lower than you is a noob.

 

thx for the sig

 

 

 

I have the original, credit to Gid:

 

 

 

 

 

 

It's like what George Carlin said with driving.

 

 

 

Did you notice anyone going slower than you is an [wagon]? And anyone going faster than you is a maniac?

 

 

 

It's all part of the great double standard that a majority of humans share. Put down all that is different or mysterious, except in real life it usually ends up with some minority being killed or oppressed.

[alphakoldes]

Well I think my general response to this type of topic is pretty much what you insinuated. Jealousy, envy and all of those other negative selfish descriptive words.

 

 

 

Play like me or be an outcast.

 

 

 

as an example to my above post, let me point out a flamboyant hypocrite in action.

 

 

 

i used to see you in several in-game runescape chats pestering and harassing players for using cheap and efficient methods other than slayer. god forbid.

 

 

 

Don't try to pretend you know who I am or what I stand for. Anytime I've ever JOKED with someone about their methods of training is simply that, jokes.

 

 

 

You can't always detect sarcasm through text, so don't pretend to know who I am and call me a hypocrite because I might have offended certain people in a blogscape chat.

 

 

 

I couldn't care less how people play this game; any of my TRUE friends who actually KNOW me would know that I always support them in their goals no matter how skewed they are in comparison to what I do.

 

 

 

I respect people playing the game the way they want to and having fun, no matter what they do.

 

 

 

Thanks.

[BBC3]

99% of flaming is out of jealousy.

 

98% of stantitics are made up ;)

 

 

 

97% of people cant spell

[Inuashakent]

99% of flaming is out of jealousy.

 

98% of stantitics are made up ;)

 

 

 

97% of people cant spell

 

 

 

99% of people don't use punctuations, such as periods.