Jagex is Going to Kill Bounty Hunter.

[HistoriK]

Well, everyone is all excited about the new PvP update (the new wildy), but one thing Jagex is not telling you people is that with the release of PVP worlds, they are also going to make Bounty Hunter a "safe" mini-game. That is, the loot system currently installed on BH, where when you kill a player you receive all their items, will be removed. So to be honest, this update will be completely bittersweet. This change to Bounty Hunter will make the minigame completely obsolete and pointless.

 

 

 

The new PVP is no replacement to the true wilderness style of BH. The loot system on new PVP will be completely different from that in Bounty Hunter. Jagex is so paranoid about RWT that they are implementing this new PVP system to replace the BH looting, and thereby (in their minds) further thwart RWT.

 

 

 

The fact is, RWT in this day and age is ruled by asian farmers. These players log into their customers' accounts and just play all day, earning them gold in the game. Any update you make to the Bounty Hunter will only stop the small guys. If you are still in a battle against RWT (which in my mind has nearly completely stopped since the trade updates), you'll need to figure out a way to stop the farmers. Messing around with Bounty Hunter is not going to fix anything.

[Outsanity]

First of all, you have no proof they will take the looting out of BH. None what-so-ever. Prove me wrong.

 

 

 

Secondly, this is the Tip.It Forums. If you want to urge Jagex to do something, go the Runescape Forums.

 

 

 

And lastly, it isn't just asian farmers. A big chunk of it probably is, but it's not all Jagex is fighting against.

[SwordKing]

Do want proof.

[Ixindor]

Even if they replace the looting system with the new PvP system, it still wouldn't make it a "Safe Minigame." I'll give you that, if they do this, yes...BH will probably be officially dead. But that is pure speculation. There is absolutely no proof they will make any changes to the current version of the minigame.

[CampbellMC]

Proof? This thread is pointless and pretty much just spam until you provide some kind of proof.

[Nenga]

I would love your source of such information. Seriously where did you get an idea like this, it is completely outside the realm of events that even have a possibility to happen. Now I figure BH won't be playable on these new worlds, but not that they will take it out completely. It just doesn't sound like jagex... (I can back up that statement to so don't try me)

 

 

 

Jagex better not take world 64 for a pvp world because that's my home and I hate pvp. :evil:

[Naive]

No pic no proof :shame:

 

 

 

If you wanted to make an honest arguement you should've had some actual evidence, not base it off of pure speculation.

[mervinator_9]

Seriously there is not any solid proof for this or even anything that has hinted at this.

 

 

 

Anyway if they were to do this they way as well just remove Bh because it just wont serve a purpose after it.

 

 

 

Also your comment of Asian gold farmers is way off imo, alot of wealth is being transfered by BH, more than people just letting farmers log onto the accounts. The term "Asian gold farmers" is kinda FUBAR imo, you have no idea of the nationality of a gold farmer, granted the majority are possibly asian. Anyway the farmer is the little guy, Its the guy pulling the strings who does the most damage. But W/e

 

 

 

Bh aint dead so this thread is not relavent until there is some i guess,

[EU Slayer]

I'd hate to quote /b/ But...

 

"proof or it didn't happen" Comes into play here :roll:

[Lady_Shahdie]

Woah hold your horses there! Firstly, Jagex has made no statement whatsoever that BH's loot system will change. I am not doubting that there is a possibility it will but I highly doubt it. Also, BH was never intended to be the real replacement (or supplement) for the wilderness. Its primary purpose is to be a combat minigame. What is so frightening if this minigame essentially dies and rarely anyone will play it anymore? I'm sure you members have plenty of minigames that are virtually dead and not many people play.

 

 

 

Regarding real world trading, I'm pretty sure Jagex will put accounts logged into an IP address thousands of miles away from where they usually log in under high suspicions. You may think they are not taking huge steps to crack down on these accounts but they do, we just don't notice the immediate effect because a sizable influx of them still make their way into the game. The amount of RWTers doing this however are probably no where near the numbers that it use to be. The RWTers would rather stick with a MMO they can profit off of without the hassles that RuneScape poses. After all, their biggest business was selling gold directly from a supplier, powerleveling (or earning gold directly on an account) really came secondary.

 

 

 

Ultimately I see nothing that indicates the coming of pk worlds will be a doom and gloom scenario. Lets give Jagex a chance to present this new style of pk and analyze it on the day of release ;) .

[InToxication]

Proof please? I honestly don't see this happening :shame:

[Kimberly]

To be honest...I had the same exact thought ever since I read the "Future PvP Updates" article.

 

 

 

Clans now have places to have returning fights, safe fights, rule constricted fights. There are free for all 'safe' arenas for those to try out their skills. There's a dangerous arena as well, for those who like a challenge. The major factor seperating Dangerous FFA and BH? Ranking systems and Classic looting.

 

 

 

The new PvP game will allow looting, regardless of it's sort. Dangerous FFA can easily have a ranking system implemented.

 

 

 

So why allow BH, a place where transferring of all sorts goes on consistantly, exist?

 

 

 

Still, I don't think the update would be done without quite a bit of upset, if at all.

[das]

Proof? This thread is pointless and pretty much just spam until you provide some kind of proof.

 

 

 

 

 

I remember many naysayers saying that about pking and trade the first time, Its an interesting conceptual arguement on trust and paranoia those updates last december did for people.

[pryomancer]

From a practical point of view, it's not a good idea to completely stop all RWT 100%, since this is greatly detrimental to gameplay and appeal. RWT has been decreased by a massive margin already, so it's really not a serious issue anymore.

 

Gameplay and that 'fun factor' should always rule over stopping stuff like RWT, otherwise you've just got a game which is a fight against people who want to abuse it. You might as well just close down RuneScape if you take that attitude.

[HistoriK]

To be honest...I had the same exact thought ever since I read the "Future PvP Updates" article.

 

 

 

Clans now have places to have returning fights, safe fights, rule constricted fights. There are free for all 'safe' arenas for those to try out their skills. There's a dangerous arena as well, for those who like a challenge. The major factor seperating Dangerous FFA and BH? Ranking systems and Classic looting.

 

 

 

The new PvP game will allow looting, regardless of it's sort. Dangerous FFA can easily have a ranking system implemented.

 

 

 

So why allow BH, a place where transferring of all sorts goes on consistantly, exist?

 

 

 

Still, I don't think the update would be done without quite a bit of upset, if at all.

 

 

 

This is exactly their reasoning. They speak of their new looting system very highly, and obviously see computer-generated drops as the wave of the future. It's very unfortunate, but it seems as if RWT will be taking another great piece of game content away.

 

 

 

From a practical point of view, it's not a good idea to completely stop all RWT 100%, since this is greatly detrimental to gameplay and appeal. RWT has been decreased by a massive margin already, so it's really not a serious issue anymore.

 

Gameplay and that 'fun factor' should always rule over stopping stuff like RWT, otherwise you've just got a game which is a fight against people who want to abuse it. You might as well just close down RuneScape if you take that attitude.

 

 

 

I whole-heartedly, 100% agree. RWT will never be completely removed from any game where there is a market for it. Jagex has taken steps that have greatly reduced the amount of RWT taking place in the game, and in hindsight, it has worked out. Macroing has cleared up, and there are virtually no incentives for players to pay for membership with stolen credit cards (these were 99% of the time macroers). Also, nearly any game company will agree that a small amount of RWT is healthy for an MMORPG. Jagex themselves have announced that they will be selling items in their next project, Mechscape.

 

 

 

I am very worried, however, that Jagex is continuing their obsession of battling RWT. If they do mess with the looting system on BH, they are hurting a great part of the game that myself and many other players enjoy.

[Will H]

There is no proof that Jagex is going to change BH in that way, although they will have to change something, ranging from reducing the number of BH worlds to beefing up the rewards, just so that each crater is popular enough to be reasonably RWT proof. How they'll actually act, however, is not certain.

[I_am_Geed]

there are going to be specific worlds where you can do pvp. They would not change bounty hunter because of specific worlds marked for pking

[toast647]

Well, on the first day everyone is probably going to be trying out the new PVP worlds right? Leaving BH empty for people to x fer.

 

If it's decent people won't be wasting their time at BH, they will be PKing. So it does make sense if they removed it

[Mylez]

There's no evidence at all to suggest so, and if they did make it a "safe" mini-game, they would add some reward aspect, whether it be tokens or items of some sort. We have dual arena for risk-free PVP, so why bother with BH?

 

 

 

Before claiming that Jagex WILL do something, do your homework. Because when proved wrong, you only look stupid ;)

[Bauke]

Ok, so there might not be any proof... still, it sounds reasonable. I think there's a fair change Jagex will actually make BH safe.

 

 

 

At least the possibility could be discussed instead of just shouting "zomg no proof!".

[777thzapster]

I really think this is possible even without proof. Jagex implemented Bounty Hunter to try and keep some of the PKers around until they found a better RWT proof system of looting.

 

 

 

Sometimes I feel the people that argue the most against the RWT proofing are the real world traders themselves acting like a concerned player that actually enjoys that mini-game.

[rangeor]

Rofl he's ignoring the "where's your proof?" questions

[obidiah]

I feel it is a bit odd you are stating your speculations as if they are fact, rather than the speculations that they are. You'd have probably got less much less criticism if you'd called your thread.

 

"Do you think Jagex is going to kill bouny hunter"

 

 

 

I have no idea if they'll change bounty hunter or not, but I find it interesting that I generally heard from pkers that bounty hunter wasn't very good - yet if theres even a hint of danger that it might go - then suddenly there's some people calling it a great bit of content.

[bsmovies]

My bets are you are some sort of pure, who realises this update will kill the old generation of pures. so you dontl ike it.

[bored321]

I highly doubt that BH will change, what you are missing is that this new PvP is not really going to be as profitable as BH, with this new risk/kill skill loot system getting a decent amount of cash from a kill will probably be slim. Also changing it to the new system would be pointless, when we could just go to a PvP world without all the Timers / Restrictions and BH would be a waste of space and never used.

 

 

 

So your statement does not really make much sense. Considering all there is no "Proof" at all, not even a hint this is pure speculation and not really worth a thread IMO.