Loffelicious Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Yep Lof, would only make prayer a little cheaper I think - actually I don't think it will change the price at all because you spread the ashes the same way you would bury bones = only a little exp. Very unlikely you'll be able to use these ashes on gilded altar imo. You can take the ashes to ectofungus :D Skeletal wyvern guide: 100-150 crimsons per hour and PROFIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebrim Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Just curious, but why does everybody keep going on about merchanting as if it's the only quick way to make money? The same recent update also made it so you can get full loot from player killing again and staking is allowed to profit now as well. All three methods of money making listed in my post have potential to be the fastest profit in the game and all three bear risk which is more than acceptable to somebody that can weigh it well and make wise choices about where they invest or who they fight. I'd venture to say that if somebody knew what they were doing, staking is easily the fastest money in the game, though it's fairly high-risk due to the large number of bugs which have existed for a long while without being reported since no profit was gained by exploiting them; once those get patched over and staking is safer, shouldn't we start considering its potential as a major money-maker for anybody attempting this goal, especially so for those that have outright opposed arbitrage as a way to grow their bank? After all, if you had a decent starting fund you could potentially make all the money to finish every buyable skill in only an hour or two. (Though you could equally well lose the same amount in that time, but that's where picking your fights carefully comes in.)Really? Cuz I thought getting straight donations would be even faster cash than staking. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bartuccio3 Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Really? Cuz I thought getting straight donations would be even faster cash than staking.Yeah, but the problem there is getting people that are willing to obtain large sums of money and then give them to you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
xpx Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Really? Cuz I thought getting straight donations would be even faster cash than staking.Yeah, but the problem there is getting people that are willing to obtain large sums of money and then give them to you.The problem with staking is that it's basically all luck. The problem with pking is that it gives no xp and has no guarantees. Merchanting is still easily the best moneymaker, and, make no mistake, even the best of stakers can't reach the mountains of cash merchants have. First to 99 Farming on 27. September, 2005.First to 3766 Port Score on 20. March, 2014.First to 4664 Port Score on 2. March, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Moama Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Really? Cuz I thought getting straight donations would be even faster cash than staking.Yeah, but the problem there is getting people that are willing to obtain large sums of money and then give them to you.The problem with staking is that it's basically all luck. The problem with pking is that it gives no xp and has no guarantees. Merchanting is still easily the best moneymaker, and, make no mistake, even the best of stakers can't reach the mountains of cash merchants have.Lol really? Stakers back in the day were very rich if not the richest.. you might forget that this element of the game has been gone for 3years so of course stakers cant be that rich right now. Give them some time and you will see the big stakers back in business with more money then anyone. Can you make 1b, max cash, party hat set in a matter of a minute merchanting? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shadiochao Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Lol really? Stakers back in the day were very rich if not the richest.. you might forget that this element of the game has been gone for 3years so of course stakers cant be that rich right now. Give them some time and you will see the big stakers back in business with more money then anyone. Can you make 1b, max cash, party hat set in a matter of a minute merchanting? Can you lose 1b, max cash or a partyhat set in a matter of a minute merchanting? =/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kjarqu Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 with merchanting being more profitable now, it is a shame he refuses to attempt it, a few weeks of successful merching could help him out significantly. Merchanting got better for items like ely/div/rares, but much worse for everything else.It took a week but the margins on the regular items before the update are now *very* small to the point that merching is slower cash/hr than other sources.So it is a huge hit for people without buyables done, but not so much if they weren't merching before. Trust me, that sucks just as much for me lol. That means I can no longer get good money if I ever decided to merch. 600+ tds kills so far, no effigies or claws or anything yet, frost bones went from 14k to 22k ea, meaning I now need over 6b for 200m prayer (something negative always happens for the skill that I'm training to 200m). Oh, and, unlike other top players, no donations for me AT ALL. No luck ftw? And don't even suggest staking, with my luck I'll lose a 500m stake against a lvl 80 with 99 str or something lol. In other words, no choice but to give up on 200m prayer, and I've gone back to 7 hours of sleep since I'm fed up of waiting on that guinness record to be placed. Hooray. :( wait until the ashes update before you give up drumgun. i think this is one update you will benefit from, dont give up ;-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jebrim Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 The thing is, all those methods actually still require a significant amount of time compared to getting donations AND those methods all have some sort of risk factor. If you're getting a donation, there is an almost zero risk cashwise. The only potential risk would be a troll doing a fake donation to waste your time, but that time would be insignificant compared to the other methods and their risks. Agilitizing my way to 1,000,000,000xp!Follow my progress on my Youtube channel: http://www.youtube.com/The1Jebrim Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
haimonek Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I wouldn't say staking is a "good" moneymaker. A good moneymaker is a solid income without risking to lose to much. That's everything staking isn't. With staking there's a to big risk of losing everything instead of making bank. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamajig Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Drumgun, do any of the 200m's you have left give potential profit, even if this means not doing the fastest method? If so, perhaps you could just adjust your plans for a bit to make money. Fishing rocktails? Mining rune ore? Runecrafting bloods? Farming herbs? Thieving master farmers with Ardougne Cape 4, Gloves of Silence, inventory with only the seeds you want? I don't know :x Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumgun Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 None of those methods would come near earning 6b I'm afraid :s , but ty for trying to help hehe :) http://www.youtube.com/user/DeskDrumGun?feature=mhee My Yt chan, still under construction :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslan Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Herb farming to 200M should get you the 6B but it'd be slow xp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumgun Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Planting which seeds? Apperentaly torstol would be good money with that farming scroll from dung + juju farm pots. I've bought and used the scroll + it took me 6 hours to get 10 measly ugune seeds, gaining no exp in these 6 hours. A torstol seed is 250k, and I use 4 patches (so 1m per run). The average torstols I'm getting per run (90 mins) is 30-35, excluding the chance of herbs dying etc. while using the scroll + juju farm pots. A torstol herb is worth 40k max each. So from each trip, I only get roughly 300k profit max, and takes 5 mins each trip, then wait another 90 mins. Does that sound like a valid method? Note I'm only getting a little bit of exp for this and it takes a longggg time to prepare if you want to make decent money off this, let alone the time it takes to use up all those seeds you'd have to plant. Pretty sure getting zeal for 200m pray would be even faster lol :s http://www.youtube.com/user/DeskDrumGun?feature=mhee My Yt chan, still under construction :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Viv Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Planting which seeds? Apperentaly torstol would be good money with that farming scroll from dung + juju farm pots. I've bought and used the scroll + it took me 6 hours to get 10 measly ugune seeds, gaining no exp in these 6 hours. A torstol seed is 250k, and I use 4 patches (so 1m per run). The average torstols I'm getting per run (90 mins) is 30-35, excluding the chance of herbs dying etc. while using the scroll + juju farm pots. A torstol herb is worth 40k max each. So from each trip, I only get roughly 300k profit max, and takes 5 mins each trip, then wait another 90 mins. Does that sound like a valid method? Note I'm only getting a little bit of exp for this and it takes a longggg time to prepare if you want to make decent money off this, let alone the time it takes to use up all those seeds you'd have to plant. Pretty sure getting zeal for 200m pray would be even faster lol :syeh herb farmingi snt good as a solle moneymaker but the money adds up u should use 5 patches, magic secturerS and stuff Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslan Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I use snapdragon(easier to buy the seeds in bulk).Ugune seeds are easier to get from the level 78 hunter jadinkos(carrion) or from the draconic jadinkos(got about 7-8 ugune seeds from 300k xp).Sure it may not seem much but a seed will give you about 7+ juju potions(smallest harvest was 6,only got this once, and biggest one was 15).A single juju dose will last you a complete farm run(5 normal patches+ 1 from the HH,for more ugunes).Profit is around 250-300k/run.Biggest profit was about 600k and a seed back.Not that bad for about 5 minutes every 2 hours of training.Can easily combine farming with hourly training(no matter if it's 2 hours of slayer or other form of camping). Juju farm pot+magic secatures+supercompost+scroll of life, starting from the Trollheim spot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drumgun Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Damn, should've talked to you earlier Aslan XD Asked alot of people about which jadinko dropped ugune seeds the fastest, but no one knew lol. Saw on some vid that commons dropped them atleast, so I gave up and just went with those. I'm skipping the trollheim one on purpose btw, it's a long walk so I didn't think the juju dose would last for longer than HH patch + the 4 others. One more thing, since hunt exp is irrelevant to me; are carrions faster ugune seed droppers than draconics? :P http://www.youtube.com/user/DeskDrumGun?feature=mhee My Yt chan, still under construction :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Signature Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Actually, you start your herb run in Trollheim, and the Juju potion lasts the entire 5 patch run no problem, most of the time you could probably hit HH for the 6th patch before the dose runs out, you should try. Usually, I finish 5 patches before I even get the warning message (You can speed up runs slightly by noting the herbs as grimy vs cleaning them first). I have also noticed Carrion being faster for Ugunes than Draconic, plus you get some Samadens which are amazing for Gold mining in LRC. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langer Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Wow that HH info is gold! I just started farming juju potions and training hunter there for strange rocks. Thanks guys. Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stommel Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I normally get the '1 minute remaining' warning between Camelot and Ardougne (my last two patches on a 5 patch run, i dont have Ardy cloak 4), so it's not too tight for time. Hadn't thought about doing the HH patch too, nice advice Aslan/Signature Join "DGS" Guest Clan Chat for Dungeoneering Floors | Accepting all tipiters who are Willing to Learn Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
yoooooooooooooooooooo Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 It's possible to do all 5 patches with the juju potion without starting at trollheim. I usually finish at least 30 seconds before the warning message appears. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
langer Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Any of you guys expecting a bonus XP week-end in march? I already farmed enough herbs to cover at least 96 herb. Follow the progress of top players and my weekly updates here: 200M in all SkillsLatest Milestones Chart update : page 602Latest top 15 update : page 6026 slowest skills chart : page 563 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslan Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 They'll most likely push it back, seeing as wild was released now.Perhaps sometimes in the summer when school/uni starts to keep the players. Oh and for carrion vs draconics I don't really know what to say.Carrion are more annoying to catch,all the damn plants and the bushes on the beach aswell make the trap settings harder.For draconics I used the spots in the video linked below.Got a hunter level there (4 arctic bear pouches used) and got enough seeds to keep me going for a while.Will try and note down the seeds I get when training there. http://forum.tip.it/topic/286607-advanced-guide-to-jadinko-hunting-actual-250k-xphr-results/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Drum, are you sure slayer wouldn't cover the cost to train prayer? Even if not, by the time you got 200m exp in it, you would have at least made a major dent in that figure. Maybe adding in one or two slower but better money tasks into the training. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thai_tong Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 Drum, are you sure slayer wouldn't cover the cost to train prayer? Even if not, by the time you got 200m exp in it, you would have at least made a major dent in that figure. Maybe adding in one or two slower but better money tasks into the training.Drum said he'd slay when it was faster xp. Drumgun why don't you try staking? maybe in a few months when bugs are fixed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thingamajig Posted February 7, 2011 Share Posted February 7, 2011 I heard scamming was good money :shame: But seriously though, I think maybe you could do slayer, but always consider the greatest potential for profit: eg kbd for black drags, Zamorak Boss for greater demons, etc. Also, for a daily boost, I heard some assistance offers can rake in up to 500K? Alternatively, pking people on the penguin hunting world might be good. Maybe you can kill baby dragons with bonecrusher to 200M? Or maybe you could do TDs for effigys and claws, and use all effigies on prayer? Perhaps you could solo or duo Corp? Or go Nex with a team In summary, choose either PvM or PvP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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