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08-Feb-10 - Musical Update & Strykewyrms

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Does the "Inferno" special attack of Forge Regent (magic attack that can disarm your opponent's weapon or shield) end the special of the Staff of Light?

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Their special to dig under is way overpowered as i hardly can react let alone have my character run away before i get hit for a 30

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Their special to dig under is way overpowered as i hardly can react let alone have my character run away before i get hit for a 30

 

Just to think... an overpowered weapon / useful slayer addons requires a hard boss?

 

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This staff will not drop below 10m until a better item comes out. It's the best mage staff in the game.

 

It's not...

 

Claws of Guthix maxes 30, +21% from Wolpertinger, +10% from Void Mace, max hit of 40.

Fire Surge maxes 28, +21% from Wolpertinger, +15% from Staff of Light, max hit of 39.

 

So for raw damage, Void Mace > Staff of Light. Void Mace also provides prayer bonuses.

 

Miasmic Barrage maxes 32, +21% from Wolpertinger, +10% from Zuriel's Staff, max hit of 42.

Ice Barrage maxes 30, +21% from Wolpertinger, +15% from Staff of Light, max hit of 41.

 

For raw damage while using Ancients, Zuriel's Staff > Staff of Light.

 

Rune-saving sounds really nice. It probably is very cost-efficient for rune-intensive activities like bursting. But when max hit matters (bosses, where you need to do as much damage as you can to beat out crashers, or PvP, where you need to kill your opponent before he or she can heal), Staff of Light comes second whether you're using the standard spellbook or ancient magicks spellbook. Finally, Black Salamanders provide very cheap magical damage for single target combat. Prayer isn't particularly expensive if you're geared right either. It takes me less than three prayer potions for an entire hour of killing Rex with protect melee and a Black Salamander.

 

If the Staff stays above 10M, it won't be because it's "the best", it'll be because it's rare. It may as well be Abyssal Whip rarity... except you need 8 more slayer levels, you must be on task, which also means you can't use wild pies to reach the level (doesn't work for slayer tasks), and you need a fire cape (lol-worthy requirement but I thought I'd mention it anyways). Or it could be because it's an incredible melee weapon, but rumors I've heard imply that it's the same speed as a Godsword (4 speed, or 20 attacks per minute)...

at 2k per barrage if you barrage from 94-99 mage at 200 xp per cast average you need about 30k casts

 

normal staff of 10% call it 30k

 

this staff saves about 4% more i think so thats 1200 off making it 28800

 

of the 28800 7 or ouf 8 are using runes so 25200 casts which saves 9.6m

 

definately worth if for barraging, saves its price in runes for 99 + you can just resell or burst past 99 if u want charms

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Hello,

 

Hopefully, you'll be pleased to know that we will be adding Jungle Strykewyrms to Kuradal's list.

 

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at 2k per barrage if you barrage from 94-99 mage at 200 xp per cast average you need about 30k casts

 

normal staff of 10% call it 30k

 

this staff saves about 4% more i think so thats 1200 off making it 28800

 

of the 28800 7 or ouf 8 are using runes so 25200 casts which saves 9.6m

 

definately worth if for barraging, saves its price in runes for 99 + you can just resell or burst past 99 if u want charms

 

Barraging / Bursting doesn't even reach 200 crimsons at the 9-spot. Waterfiends are easily 130+ per hour, and this number goes up as your summoning gets higher. Barraging / Bursting comes at a massive expensive, but you profit or break even when killing Waterfiends.

 

The staff is good for bursting and barraging, but bursting and barraging themselves have become more and more outdated as Jagex has improved our ability to plow through other charm droppers more efficiently. Also I'm pretty sure barrages net you ~300 xp per cast, when potted up, which means you're exaggerating the amount of runes necessary (and therefore, the savings).

The focus sight is really great. I'm trying it with mithril knives and a fero ring at abyssal demons, and even at rapid and with their high defence, 0's are rare and my max hit is ~18 (with only 85 ranged+pot). :thumbup:

 

I wonder how well this works with chins on a nech task. :shock:

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The focus sight is really great. I'm trying it with mithril knives and a fero ring at abyssal demons, and even at rapid and with their high defence, 0's are rare and my max hit is ~18 (with only 85 ranged+pot). :thumbup:

 

I wonder how well this works with chins on a nech task. :shock:

 

Off-topic but nice signature. =p

 

By the way, it sounds like the Staff of Light is actually speed 5, matching the speed of a longsword. At least, that's what you find if you search "speed" on RSOF. It may be wrong but with this many people saying it, and several of them in the game already, plus the similarity to Dragon Longsword in stats, it's very possible.

 

Which makes it kind of disappointing, since it'll be no better of a melee weapon than Dragon Longsword is.

Wow, you guys are seriously messed up. For once, Jagex has released a great magic weapon, and what the RS comunity think?: "Now how can I use this for melee? Hmm."

 

 

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Their special to dig under is way overpowered as i hardly can react let alone have my character run away before i get hit for a 30

You're supposed to mage from afar where you have much more time to run away. Just bring a pony when you kill the desert/jungle ones and you don't even need to worry about the 30s.

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after 5 trys at jad for firecape so i could finaly get new task...

 

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jagex or whoever said "lets make firecape a requirement for slayer!" can go die....

 

i have 2 friends with 99 slayer... who cant kill them cuz they cant get a firecape like me...

after 5 trys at jad for firecape so i could finaly get new task...

 

jagex or whoever said "lets make firecape a requirement for slayer!" can go die....

 

i have 2 friends with 99 slayer... who cant kill them cuz they cant get a firecape like me...

 

I'm sorry... if you're 99 slayer and can't properly prayer switch you are terrible at Runescape combat.

TD's are harder than jad. And I can farm TD's like they're goblins...

 

All it takes to beat jad is practicing prayer switching. If you've developed proper prayer switching skills, with 99 HP jad should be a walk in the park.

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This staff will not drop below 10m until a better item comes out. It's the best mage staff in the game.

 

It's not...

 

Claws of Guthix maxes 30, +21% from Wolpertinger, +10% from Void Mace, max hit of 40.

Fire Surge maxes 28, +21% from Wolpertinger, +15% from Staff of Light, max hit of 39.

 

So for raw damage, Void Mace > Staff of Light. Void Mace also provides prayer bonuses.

 

Miasmic Barrage maxes 32, +21% from Wolpertinger, +10% from Zuriel's Staff, max hit of 42.

Ice Barrage maxes 30, +21% from Wolpertinger, +15% from Staff of Light, max hit of 41.

 

For raw damage while using Ancients, Zuriel's Staff > Staff of Light.

 

Rune-saving sounds really nice. It probably is very cost-efficient for rune-intensive activities like bursting. But when max hit matters (bosses, where you need to do as much damage as you can to beat out crashers, or PvP, where you need to kill your opponent before he or she can heal), Staff of Light comes second whether you're using the standard spellbook or ancient magicks spellbook. Finally, Black Salamanders provide very cheap magical damage for single target combat. Prayer isn't particularly expensive if you're geared right either. It takes me less than three prayer potions for an entire hour of killing Rex with protect melee and a Black Salamander.

 

If the Staff stays above 10M, it won't be because it's "the best", it'll be because it's rare. It may as well be Abyssal Whip rarity... except you need 8 more slayer levels, you must be on task, which also means you can't use wild pies to reach the level (doesn't work for slayer tasks), and you need a fire cape (lol-worthy requirement but I thought I'd mention it anyways). Or it could be because it's an incredible melee weapon, but rumors I've heard imply that it's the same speed as a Godsword (4 speed, or 20 attacks per minute)...

 

You're forgetting some things-

The Void Mace isn't up for other spells, unlike the Staff of Light.

Zuriel's staff can't last longer than an hour (which basicly makes it a lot more expensive than SoL, if you're going to use Zuriel's staff regularly), and is basicly only used in PvP worlds (and perhaps BH worlds too).

SoL has an amazing special attack, and for it, it is probably better than Zuriel's staff for PvP.

SoL makes rune-cost degrade by a whole lot, especialy when combined with the FOG robes (pretty awesome for things like Castle Wars, bursting, and any other comat Magic-training).

Lastly (although it doesn't make it better as a staff, but it still is a major role in the staff's price), it's great for melee (for it's special and not so bad melee stats), and, combined with the Elysian shield and a melee-protection Prayer, can almost completely negate melee PvP damage (imagine that in Castle Wars for example...).

Wow, you guys are seriously messed up. For once, Jagex has released a great magic weapon, and what the RS comunity think?: "Now how can I use this for melee? Hmm."

 

 

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Its melee capabilities are definitely relevant.

 

The greatest strength of the staff is its spec - melee protection. But this effect only occurs if you have the staff equipped for the whole 1 minute the spec is active.

 

If the staff is a terrible melee weapon, then you're stuck using magic only while you have the spec active. But since the staff has melee potential, it's possible to hybrid mage/melee with the staff while the spec is active. Or even just melee with it.

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I'm 94 Slayer without Fire cape (had twice, lost within 24 hours xD), and you don't see me complaining. I'll just wait till I get a jad task and own the heck out of him. Then I have deserved the privilege to fight Ice Strykewyrms (yes, a privilege, not a right).

 

If you can't beat Jad, you're not worthy to fight the hardest slayer monster in RS. Simple as that.

 

 

 

EDIT: I don't understand all the fuzz about the staffs special, isn't it exactly the same as prot meele, only that it doesn't protect 100% against monsters...?

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EDIT: I don't understand all the fuzz about the staffs special, isn't it exactly the same as prot meele, only that it doesn't protect 100% against monsters...?

 

50% melee protection for 1 minute = tank twice as many claw / ags specs against you

= you can pray range / mage against a boss you'd normally have to pray melee against (e.g. Corp beast)

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This staff will not drop below 10m until a better item comes out. It's the best mage staff in the game.

 

It's not...

 

Claws of Guthix maxes 30, +21% from Wolpertinger, +10% from Void Mace, max hit of 40.

Fire Surge maxes 28, +21% from Wolpertinger, +15% from Staff of Light, max hit of 39.

 

So for raw damage, Void Mace > Staff of Light. Void Mace also provides prayer bonuses.

 

Miasmic Barrage maxes 32, +21% from Wolpertinger, +10% from Zuriel's Staff, max hit of 42.

Ice Barrage maxes 30, +21% from Wolpertinger, +15% from Staff of Light, max hit of 41.

 

For raw damage while using Ancients, Zuriel's Staff > Staff of Light.

 

Rune-saving sounds really nice. It probably is very cost-efficient for rune-intensive activities like bursting. But when max hit matters (bosses, where you need to do as much damage as you can to beat out crashers, or PvP, where you need to kill your opponent before he or she can heal), Staff of Light comes second whether you're using the standard spellbook or ancient magicks spellbook. Finally, Black Salamanders provide very cheap magical damage for single target combat. Prayer isn't particularly expensive if you're geared right either. It takes me less than three prayer potions for an entire hour of killing Rex with protect melee and a Black Salamander.

 

If the Staff stays above 10M, it won't be because it's "the best", it'll be because it's rare. It may as well be Abyssal Whip rarity... except you need 8 more slayer levels, you must be on task, which also means you can't use wild pies to reach the level (doesn't work for slayer tasks), and you need a fire cape (lol-worthy requirement but I thought I'd mention it anyways). Or it could be because it's an incredible melee weapon, but rumors I've heard imply that it's the same speed as a Godsword (4 speed, or 20 attacks per minute)...

 

You're forgetting some things-

The Void Mace isn't up for other spells, unlike the Staff of Light.

Zuriel's staff can't last longer than an hour (which basicly makes it a lot more expensive than SoL, if you're going to use Zuriel's staff regularly), and is basicly only used in PvP worlds (and perhaps BH worlds too).

SoL has an amazing special attack, and for it, it is probably better than Zuriel's staff for PvP.

SoL makes rune-cost degrade by a whole lot, especialy when combined with the FOG robes (pretty awesome for things like Castle Wars, bursting, and any other comat Magic-training).

Lastly (although it doesn't make it better as a staff, but it still is a major role in the staff's price), it's great for melee (for it's special and not so bad melee stats), and, combined with the Elysian shield and a melee-protection Prayer, can almost completely negate melee PvP damage (imagine that in Castle Wars for example...).

 

Actually, I'm not forgetting anything. Void Mace is perfectly capable of casting other spells, and will still get +10%. And it ALSO retains it's prayer bonus, which, pending on your situation, can mean far more than 5% damage.

 

Zuriel's Staff is less than 1M last I checked. Staff of Light is worth an easter egg. An easter egg is priced at 300M street. Even at half that, that's a significant amount of playtime before it approaches the cost.

 

Like I said, I'm not saying it's a bad weapon. No, it's a very good item - just not the best.

 

The Staff of Light has balance, but:

 

Accuracy - Beaten by master wand

 

Damage Output - Beaten by Void Mace and Zuriel's Staff

 

Price - Beaten by Salamander

 

So if you need a low price but a Salamander doesn't work (need range or splash, for example, bursting), Staff of Light is great. But if you just need accuracy to land your special effects (freezing for example), Master Wand is superior. If you're likely to be crashed while fighting a boss, Void Mace is superior. If you're PKing and need higher damage to KO as well as effects, Zuriel's Staff is better.

 

Finally, since you can't de-equip the staff and it sounds like it's only speed-5, you can't effectively melee with the staff taking advantage of the special. So if you're taking a ton of melee damage but can't use melee prayer, then sure, Staff of Light might be good. If you're planning on attacking solely through magic. In Castle Wars or the like, expect people to simply slap on mage defense and laugh at you, because if you try to use a bow or sword, your protection is gone.

 

 

EDIT: I don't understand all the fuzz about the staffs special, isn't it exactly the same as prot meele, only that it doesn't protect 100% against monsters...?

 

50% melee protection for 1 minute = tank twice as many claw / ags specs against you

= you can pray range / mage against a boss you'd normally have to pray melee against (e.g. Corp beast)

 

I mentioned this already. It was good in theory, until someone tested it and found that it's too slow. It would be like using a D Long against the Corp, you simply won't do enough damage to make it worthwhile.

should i be doing sumona or duradel if i want desert / jungle ones?

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EDIT: I don't understand all the fuzz about the staffs special, isn't it exactly the same as prot meele, only that it doesn't protect 100% against monsters...?

 

50% melee protection for 1 minute = tank twice as many claw / ags specs against you

= you can pray range / mage against a boss you'd normally have to pray melee against (e.g. Corp beast)

 

I mentioned this already. It was good in theory, until someone tested it and found that it's too slow. It would be like using a D Long against the Corp, you simply won't do enough damage to make it worthwhile.

 

That's disappointing but at least it isn't OP. Either way, it's still viable for just straight up tanking hits / piles.

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should i be doing sumona or duradel if i want desert / jungle ones?

wait till next update because they will be a kuradal assignment a jmod said

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