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HOW TO FLESHSPOILER: THE GUIDE.

Mage prayer untill he pops his eyeball out and melees you, then switch to melee pray. He will only melee you after that unless he switches targets. Melee pray on the 2nd form.

 

wooo no deaths on flesh ever again

As i've said to you time and again, it's not that easy if you have a rager(which you should). With only 1-2 people with ragers on first form, those players will be targeted heavily and flesh will switch between ragers and you, so all that melee prayer stuff goes out of the window- you will likely be dealing with one form on 500s no matter what and just hope people do high enough damage for you to survive. This is not a problem when the team gets 3-5 ragers(which they always should) and can share all the damage equally and not worry about melee prayer at all, but the effect of ragers can't be underestimated, and with a low level summoning/mining it's understandable that you'd not know this stuff.

 

Am still waiting for a guide to get that damn skelleton trio archer not damaging me faster than I can eat -.-

The method is to do TF@@@@@@(45-47 rows) and have trio less than 5% of the time.

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HOW TO FLESHSPOILER: THE GUIDE.

Mage prayer untill he pops his eyeball out and melees you, then switch to melee pray. He will only melee you after that unless he switches targets. Melee pray on the 2nd form.

 

wooo no deaths on flesh ever again

As i've said to you time and again, it's not that easy if you have a rager(which you should). With only 1-2 people with ragers on first form, those players will be targeted heavily and flesh will switch between ragers and you, so all that melee prayer stuff goes out of the window- you will likely be dealing with one form on 500s no matter what and just hope people do high enough damage for you to survive. This is not a problem when the team gets 3-5 ragers(which they always should) and can share all the damage equally and not worry about melee prayer at all, but the effect of ragers can't be underestimated, and with a low level summoning/mining it's understandable that you'd not know this stuff.

In sub 25s sometimes you can't get ragers and tbh with more than 2 hexes (which is becoming common now) flesh is a joke ragers or no ragers.

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HOW TO FLESHSPOILER: THE GUIDE.

Mage prayer untill he pops his eyeball out and melees you, then switch to melee pray. He will only melee you after that unless he switches targets. Melee pray on the 2nd form.

 

wooo no deaths on flesh ever again

 

The problem comes when multiple people use Bloodragers, at which point Flesh changes targets like a madman during the speccing. If the entire team isn't on the ball/gets unlucky with the target switching, it might be better to save the ragers for the second form only and just kill Flesh normally when the designated tanker.

 

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what I've noticed on flesh spoiler is, even if people are using ragers, he will still always try to go back onto on person. He's kind of Like Bal'lak, where he'll pick one target, and will seem to go out of his way to try and kill that target.

 

It's still easy though, with a few ragers, the first form won't last long, and simply asking the team to drop some food for the tank, you'll survive since his attack speed is fairly slow.

Ragers do mess up the melee pray thing, but even with that, if your team is actually...you know...a team...you'll make it through death-less with amazing ease.

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A question to more experienced DNGneers about rings:

 

I only have 1 ring atm which is berserker T8 and it would probably help some to get one other ring up to bar as well.

My binds are SS hood, prom 2h, law runes.

 

Most of the dungeones I am purely a DPSer, due to my farming lvl I have at times taken the role of the snaper as well.

 

SO I am debating on weather it would be worth it to get gatherer ring up for second?

 

I dont have a CSB and I don't really plan on either, due to my lowish rc lvl. Also I am dngin with DG sweepers exclusevly and we usually have ppl with CSBs in team, so I'll just grab the runes off the starting table + monster drops to help out with mage so I don't really think if a mage ring is worth it.

 

SO to the pros around: is a gatherer ring for farming worth it or should i get mage ring for second? Or is there a third option that is even better?

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If you're pure melee and you snape a lot, then yeah, gatherer. I highly recommend that you get 70 rc and a csb as soon as possible, but until then, zerker/gatherer is good.

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I've also been thinking about CSB, since I've exclusively run with the law bind since for most of my time DGing. In reality the CSB helps in a lot more situations than the laws do, however I do really like the laws for c1s. Which means it might make sense for me to just bind laws, then run c1 x2 and then find another surgebox until I hit the end of my reset and rebind laws again and repeat.

 

Is anyone doing anything similar and want to share their experience in running CSB and laws? I'm wondering how practical it really is.

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I've also been thinking about CSB, since I've exclusively run with the law bind since for most of my time DGing. In reality the CSB helps in a lot more situations than the laws do, however I do really like the laws for c1s. Which means it might make sense for me to just bind laws, then run c1 x2 and then find another surgebox until I hit the end of my reset and rebind laws again and repeat.

 

Is anyone doing anything similar and want to share their experience in running CSB and laws? I'm wondering how practical it really is.

 

Surgeboxes are pretty uncommon, so it's likely that you'd be using laws the majority of the time anyway. As a keyer, I think you should go with whatever you're comfortable with, but it's definitely worth noting that one more CSB on warped floors is always helpful (bosses).

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A question to more experienced DNGneers about rings:

 

I only have 1 ring atm which is berserker T8 and it would probably help some to get one other ring up to bar as well.

My binds are SS hood, prom 2h, law runes.

 

Most of the dungeones I am purely a DPSer, due to my farming lvl I have at times taken the role of the snaper as well.

 

SO I am debating on weather it would be worth it to get gatherer ring up for second?

 

I dont have a CSB and I don't really plan on either, due to my lowish rc lvl. Also I am dngin with DG sweepers exclusevly and we usually have ppl with CSBs in team, so I'll just grab the runes off the starting table + monster drops to help out with mage so I don't really think if a mage ring is worth it.

 

SO to the pros around: is a gatherer ring for farming worth it or should i get mage ring for second? Or is there a third option that is even better?

Really the max amount of herbs you will need from a patch is 4 lycos/magebanes for melee potions (after you have a spare wg/lyco for skill potions, obviously) - gatherers seems a bit much seeing as you'll usually get at least 2-3 herbs from a patch anyways.

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Just to give you guys a heads-up, DGS is thinking about separation from tip it forums.

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Just to give you guys a heads-up, DGS is thinking about separation from tip it forums.

 

That's a great idea !

Imo this clan could become the BEST and MOST POPURAL dung clan on rs with doing this. :D

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Was actually going to go post this question in TheAncient's topic in gen disc, but seeing as one of the admins deleted it (:roll:), I guess I'll ask here.

 

DGS still has it's own site, right? Because I may not come in much (read: at all, lol - but I will soon, probably, seeing as I'm closing in on my rapier and getting sick of solo), but I do read this topic here pretty much every day, plus I'd hate to see this clan go under because of this... whatever this argument is between TIF staff and you guys (if it's just a couple people, then I apologise).

 

Basically, I hate to see you guys go, but if you have to, I would more than likely migrate over to your guys' site as well. A similar situation happened with a different forum, and a whole slew of modders for that game migrated onto their own site. I missed most of it, but it seems to have caused a lot of chaos.

 

I hope everything turns out alright :P

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Opening it to the general rs public will just make the idiots flood in imo...

But don't ask me, I don't even dung anymore

It's not really about opening to the general public as it is about not having enough support from the administration to keep going under the tif banner.

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hi im looking for blade :-(

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hi im looking for blade :-(

Bladewing will only truly have left TIF when none here remain loyal to him.

What a wonderful way for me to bump this.

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