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I'd argue the yellow stuff has a much higher chance, the white is only slightly above yellow, and rare is far below 4% from what I've heard. (Note that lucky AGS can be a rare item, not super rare.) Super rare is far below 1%, too. Using your own 1,400,000 spins, you'd expect 56000 rares and 14000 super rares in the game by now.

 

If i had to make an educated guess I'd go with something like:

 

White = 60%

Yellow = 39.94%

Rare = 0.05%

Super rare = 0.01%

 

This leaves 70 rares and 14 super rares, which sounds about right from the number we've seen.

 

I think this is the best estimation so far. In my experience I have received white and yellow rewards at about the same ratio with a slight preference for the white. Maybe the rares are rarer than what powerfrog suggests but the non rares seem to be right.

 

Given that % has to add up to 100 the white and yellows can't be right but the rares needing to be rarer; that would result in unused percentage.

It isn't that difficult to figure out what I meant. If the the two rare categories got smaller, the two non rare categories would go up by the same amount. Everything will still add up to 100%

 

Example:

 

White = 60%

Yellow = 39.94%

Rare = 0.05%

Super rare = 0.01%

Total=100%

 

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White = 60.015%

Yellow = 39.955%

Rare = 0.025%

Super rare = 0.005%

Total= Still 100%

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Updates like these make me feel angry, it got nothing to deal with RS.

Last time I was just walking around with a noobaccount and just by walking around I slowly received money :S?

I meen honoustly, this is not the game I once liked any more, not even close actually...

 

I actually hope Jagex will lose a big bunch of players soon because of trash like this, throw all the bullshit overpowered weapons away and go back to 2004 or something.

 

Completely agree. Just useless things to acquire more money by throwing in some ridiculous flashy update.

Yeah what kind of business deliberately makes updates with the intention of making money from it?! Oh... Wait... All of them.

 

Logical flawed premise. It assumes, and as such precludes, the possibility that a better update could not do the same thing. As some people have stated, this is more a gimmick, to draw in customers (Think PT Barnum) rather then cosmetic appeal or enjoyable gameplay (Think graphic reworks and updated fight caves/kiln etc).

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Updates like these make me feel angry, it got nothing to deal with RS.

Last time I was just walking around with a noobaccount and just by walking around I slowly received money :S?

I meen honoustly, this is not the game I once liked any more, not even close actually...

 

I actually hope Jagex will lose a big bunch of players soon because of trash like this, throw all the bullshit overpowered weapons away and go back to 2004 or something.

 

Completely agree. Just useless things to acquire more money by throwing in some ridiculous flashy update.

Yeah what kind of business deliberately makes updates with the intention of making money from it?! Oh... Wait... All of them.

 

Logical flawed premise. It assumes, and as such precludes, the possibility that a better update could not do the same thing. As some people have stated, this is more a gimmick, to draw in customers (Think PT Barnum) rather then cosmetic appeal or enjoyable gameplay (Think graphic reworks and updated fight caves/kiln etc).

 

Regardless if it's new content or not, people are still going to [bleep] about it. A Graphical Rework or an update like the new Fight Kiln is only going to attract older players, not the new ones. The SoF sort of caters for everyone.

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Has anyone else got any lamp xp values? We have values for the following lamps/levels

[hide]Huge Level 73

Huge Level 99

Large Level 85

Large Level 89

Medium Level 1

Medium Level 2

Medium Level 7

Medium Level 9

Medium Level 25

Medium Level 37

Medium Level 45

Medium Level 46

Medium Level 49

Medium Level 50

Medium Level 51

Medium Level 53

Medium Level 54

Medium Level 58

Medium Level 61

Medium Level 62

Medium Level 64

Medium Level 66

Medium Level 67

Medium Level 69

Medium Level 70

Medium Level 71

Medium Level 72

Medium Level 73

Medium Level 74

Medium Level 75

Medium Level 76

Medium Level 78

Medium Level 79

Medium Level 80

Medium Level 81

Medium Level 82

Medium Level 83

Medium Level 85

Medium Level 86

Medium Level 87

Medium Level 88

Medium Level 89

Medium Level 90

Medium Level 91

Medium Level 92

Medium Level 93

Medium Level 94

Medium Level 95

Medium Level 97

Medium Level 98

Medium Level 99

Medium Level 120

Small Level 1

Small Level 2

Small Level 3

Small Level 4

Small Level 7

Small Level 9

Small Level 10

Small Level 13

Small Level 14

Small Level 19

Small Level 20

Small Level 21

Small Level 22

Small Level 23

Small Level 25

Small Level 26

Small Level 28

Small Level 29

Small Level 31

Small Level 32

Small Level 33

Small Level 36

Small Level 37

Small Level 39

Small Level 40

Small Level 41

Small Level 42

Small Level 43

Small Level 44

Small Level 47

Small Level 48

Small Level 50

Small Level 51

Small Level 52

Small Level 53

Small Level 54

Small Level 57

Small Level 58

Small Level 59

Small Level 62

Small Level 64

Small Level 66

Small Level 69

Small Level 71

Small Level 72

Small Level 73

Small Level 74

Small Level 75

Small Level 76

Small Level 77

Small Level 79

Small Level 80

Small Level 81

Small Level 82

Small Level 83

Small Level 85

Small Level 86

Small Level 87

Small Level 88

Small Level 89

Small Level 90

Small Level 91

Small Level 92

Small Level 93

Small Level 94

Small Level 95

Small Level 96

Small Level 97

Small Level 98

Small Level 99

Small Level 100[/hide]

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Has anyone else got any lamp xp values? We have values for the following lamps/levels

[hide]Huge Level 99

Large Level 85

Large Level 89

Medium Level 1

Medium Level 2

Medium Level 7

Medium Level 25

Medium Level 37

Medium Level 45

Medium Level 46

Medium Level 49

Medium Level 50

Medium Level 51

Medium Level 53

Medium Level 54

Medium Level 58

Medium Level 61

Medium Level 62

Medium Level 64

Medium Level 66

Medium Level 67

Medium Level 69

Medium Level 70

Medium Level 71

Medium Level 72

Medium Level 74

Medium Level 75

Medium Level 76

Medium Level 78

Medium Level 80

Medium Level 81

Medium Level 82

Medium Level 83

Medium Level 85

Medium Level 86

Medium Level 87

Medium Level 88

Medium Level 89

Medium Level 90

Medium Level 91

Medium Level 92

Medium Level 93

Medium Level 94

Medium Level 95

Medium Level 97

Medium Level 98

Medium Level 99

Medium Level 120

Small Level 1

Small Level 2

Small Level 3

Small Level 4

Small Level 9

Small Level 10

Small Level 13

Small Level 14

Small Level 19

Small Level 20

Small Level 21

Small Level 22

Small Level 23

Small Level 26

Small Level 28

Small Level 29

Small Level 31

Small Level 36

Small Level 37

Small Level 39

Small Level 41

Small Level 42

Small Level 43

Small Level 48

Small Level 50

Small Level 51

Small Level 52

Small Level 53

Small Level 54

Small Level 57

Small Level 62

Small Level 66

Small Level 69

Small Level 71

Small Level 74

Small Level 75

Small Level 76

Small Level 77

Small Level 80

Small Level 81

Small Level 82

Small Level 83

Small Level 85

Small Level 87

Small Level 88

Small Level 89

Small Level 90

Small Level 91

Small Level 92

Small Level 94

Small Level 95

Small Level 96

Small Level 97

Small Level 98

Small Level 99[/hide]

 

I'll fetch some later from my alt accounts etc, medium lamps are P2P though so, I won't be able to fetch those.

 

hopefully we can work out formula though :P

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Has it been determined if clicking the red button when the highlighter is over certain areas actually impacts the outcome of where the highlighter ends? In my own few days of spinning the wheel it seems to be relatively random even when I start the highlighter thing at the same spot every time.

 

EDIT: Wikia says this "The time at which a player presses the button does not determine the loot gained. As soon as the button is pressed, the item will be chosen randomly and the glow stops on that item." I guess the graphic doesn't actually mean anything, it's similar to the predetermined results of slot machines in real life.

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Has it been determined if clicking the red button when the highlighter is over certain areas actually impacts the outcome of where the highlighter ends? In my own few days of spinning the wheel it seems to be relatively random even when I start the highlighter thing at the same spot every time.

 

EDIT: Wikia says this "The time at which a player presses the button does not determine the loot gained. As soon as the button is pressed, the item will be chosen randomly and the glow stops on that item." I guess the graphic doesn't actually mean anything, it's similar to the predetermined results of slot machines in real life.

Yes, IIRC a mod posted on the day of release that the animations don't mean anything.

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I've also got only med lamps, but my brother was luckier...

 

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Can you ask him to check and see if you can use (or) or (sp) kits on it? If not its gonna be rather pointless to get since it will just take up bank space while normal helm can go into costume room.

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I've also got only med lamps, but my brother was luckier...

 

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Can you ask him to check and see if you can use (or) or (sp) kits on it? If not its gonna be rather pointless to get since it will just take up bank space while normal helm can go into costume room.

 

or better yet, can you still alch lucky items?

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I've also got only med lamps, but my brother was luckier...

 

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Can you ask him to check and see if you can use (or) or (sp) kits on it? If not its gonna be rather pointless to get since it will just take up bank space while normal helm can go into costume room.

 

or better yet, can you still alch lucky items?

I'm pretty sure someone earlier in the thread said you can't.

 

I don't understand why anyone would want to though. Surely you can't have 700+ items in your bank that are more important than these extremely rare (Many currently more rare than blue phats) items.

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I've also got only med lamps, but my brother was luckier...

 

squeal20120305.jpg

 

Can you ask him to check and see if you can use (or) or (sp) kits on it? If not its gonna be rather pointless to get since it will just take up bank space while normal helm can go into costume room.

 

or better yet, can you still alch lucky items?

I'm pretty sure someone earlier in the thread said you can't.

 

I don't understand why anyone would want to though. Surely you can't have 700+ items in your bank that are more important than these extremely rare (Many currently more rare than blue phats) items.

 

Because, unlike a blue phat, a lucky dfull is useless. It is not tradeable. It is not a good piece of gear. Is can't be alched. Other then any "value" assigned to it because of looks, it has no use. A phat has value because 1.) Its actually valuable as an item with resale value and therefore 2.) It is a status symbol because of the wealth attached to the item, much as owning a fancy car would be. This item is "rare", yes, but that doesn't intrinsically make it "good". There are many, real life objects which are rare, but completely useless, and of no value.

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I've also got only med lamps, but my brother was luckier...

 

squeal20120305.jpg

 

Can you ask him to check and see if you can use (or) or (sp) kits on it? If not its gonna be rather pointless to get since it will just take up bank space while normal helm can go into costume room.

 

or better yet, can you still alch lucky items?

I'm pretty sure someone earlier in the thread said you can't.

 

I don't understand why anyone would want to though. Surely you can't have 700+ items in your bank that are more important than these extremely rare (Many currently more rare than blue phats) items.

 

Because, unlike a blue phat, a lucky dfull is useless. It is not tradeable. It is not a good piece of gear. Is can't be alched. Other then any "value" assigned to it because of looks, it has no use. A phat has value because 1.) Its actually valuable as an item with resale value and therefore 2.) It is a status symbol because of the wealth attached to the item, much as owning a fancy car would be. This item is "rare", yes, but that doesn't intrinsically make it "good". There are many, real life objects which are rare, but completely useless, and of no value.

 

But because "lucky" items have a dull sheen to them to differentiate them from regular items, even if they did have "lucky party hats" no one would be impressed by it because a) it is not tradeable and b) it clearly looks different than a regular one so there's really not much point to bragging about it.

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I've also got only med lamps, but my brother was luckier...

 

squeal20120305.jpg

 

Can you ask him to check and see if you can use (or) or (sp) kits on it? If not its gonna be rather pointless to get since it will just take up bank space while normal helm can go into costume room.

 

or better yet, can you still alch lucky items?

I'm pretty sure someone earlier in the thread said you can't.

 

I don't understand why anyone would want to though. Surely you can't have 700+ items in your bank that are more important than these extremely rare (Many currently more rare than blue phats) items.

 

Because, unlike a blue phat, a lucky dfull is useless. It is not tradeable. It is not a good piece of gear. Is can't be alched. Other then any "value" assigned to it because of looks, it has no use. A phat has value because 1.) Its actually valuable as an item with resale value and therefore 2.) It is a status symbol because of the wealth attached to the item, much as owning a fancy car would be. This item is "rare", yes, but that doesn't intrinsically make it "good". There are many, real life objects which are rare, but completely useless, and of no value.

 

But because "lucky" items have a dull sheen to them to differentiate them from regular items, even if they did have "lucky party hats" no one would be impressed by it because a) it is not tradeable and b) it clearly looks different than a regular one so there's really not much point to bragging about it.

Stonewall is talking about regular party hats and the value they hold compared to most of these "lucky" items. There is no mention of "lucky party hats".

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I believe there's a pinned topic on RSOF stating that there is no discontinued items obtainable from SoF.

Was I that unclear that everyone is missing the point of the compassion between NORMAL party hats and certain LUCKY items, specifically the DFH?

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Because having a lucky godsword or divine with no level requirement isn't overpowered...

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Because having a lucky godsword or divine with no level requirement isn't overpowered...

It will be, for the two or three pures worldwide that actually manage to get one :mrgreen:

 

In all seriousness, it doesn't make much sense to do that. It really only rewards lucky pures (And in theory, skillers, but skillers have no use for lucky combat items).

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