What ever happened to inidividuals desiring items for their own merit; not taking into consideration what might impress others?

 

Food for thought.

MMORPGs happened :razz:

What ever happened to inidividuals desiring items for their own merit; not taking into consideration what might impress others?

 

Food for thought.

MMORPGs happened :razz:

 

More like basic human nature happened.

 

The fundamental driving force of our consumerist society is the fact we like to look good* to others while also displaying some personality.

It's why we decorate our homes, it's why most families will have 'good' plates and 'good' cutlery stashed somewhere that only comes out when guests arrive.

It's why we spend millions a year on cosmetics to make our skin and hair look good.

It's why we spend millions on clothes to make ourselves look good.

It's why we go to gyms and fund the fad diet industry to get good bodies.

 

*Good being highly subjective here as it depends on lifestyle choices etc. Eg what looks good to a materialist and a naturalist aren't the same

What ever happened to inidividuals desiring items for their own merit; not taking into consideration what might impress others?

 

Food for thought.

MMORPGs happened :razz:

 

More like basic human nature happened.

 

The fundamental driving force of our consumerist society is the fact we like to look good* to others while also displaying some personality.

It's why we decorate our homes, it's why most families will have 'good' plates and 'good' cutlery stashed somewhere that only comes out when guests arrive.

It's why we spend millions a year on cosmetics to make our skin and hair look good.

It's why we spend millions on clothes to make ourselves look good.

It's why we go to gyms and fund the fad diet industry to get good bodies.

 

*Good being highly subjective here as it depends on lifestyle choices etc. Eg what looks good to a materialist and a naturalist aren't the same

That is true. I was more-so referring to the MMO part of Runescape, in comparison to single player RPGs with my post.

We still need values for the lamps. We have the values for the following levels:

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Huge Level 73

Huge Level 99

Large Level 85

Large Level 89

Medium Level 1

Medium Level 2

Medium Level 7

Medium Level 9

Medium Level 20

Medium Level 25

Medium Level 31

Medium Level 37

Medium Level 45

Medium Level 46

Medium Level 49

Medium Level 50

Medium Level 51

Medium Level 53

Medium Level 54

Medium Level 58

Medium Level 61

Medium Level 62

Medium Level 64

Medium Level 66

Medium Level 67

Medium Level 69

Medium Level 70

Medium Level 71

Medium Level 72

Medium Level 73

Medium Level 74

Medium Level 75

Medium Level 76

Medium Level 77

Medium Level 78

Medium Level 79

Medium Level 80

Medium Level 81

Medium Level 82

Medium Level 83

Medium Level 84

Medium Level 85

Medium Level 86

Medium Level 87

Medium Level 88

Medium Level 89

Medium Level 90

Medium Level 91

Medium Level 92

Medium Level 93

Medium Level 94

Medium Level 95

Medium Level 97

Medium Level 98

Medium Level 99

Medium Level 120

Small Level 1

Small Level 2

Small Level 3

Small Level 4

Small Level 5

Small Level 6

Small Level 7

Small Level 9

Small Level 10

Small Level 13

Small Level 14

Small Level 18

Small Level 19

Small Level 20

Small Level 21

Small Level 22

Small Level 23

Small Level 25

Small Level 26

Small Level 27

Small Level 28

Small Level 29

Small Level 31

Small Level 32

Small Level 33

Small Level 35

Small Level 36

Small Level 37

Small Level 39

Small Level 40

Small Level 41

Small Level 42

Small Level 43

Small Level 44

Small Level 45

Small Level 46

Small Level 47

Small Level 48

Small Level 50

Small Level 51

Small Level 52

Small Level 53

Small Level 54

Small Level 56

Small Level 57

Small Level 58

Small Level 59

Small Level 60

Small Level 62

Small Level 64

Small Level 65

Small Level 66

Small Level 69

Small Level 70

Small Level 71

Small Level 72

Small Level 73

Small Level 74

Small Level 75

Small Level 76

Small Level 77

Small Level 79

Small Level 80

Small Level 81

Small Level 82

Small Level 83

Small Level 84

Small Level 85

Small Level 86

Small Level 87

Small Level 88

Small Level 89

Small Level 90

Small Level 90

Small Level 91

Small Level 92

Small Level 93

Small Level 94

Small Level 95

Small Level 96

Small Level 97

Small Level 98

Small Level 99

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looks like you have more then enough to figure out a formula...

I was about to say the same.

Dunno if anyone still needed confirmation, but I had Ely as "rare" a day ago and now

Obviously I didn't get it but this at least proves it's not super rare only.

I enjoy the update, it gave me 10k as soon as I made my account which helped me out a bit. :)

Dunno if anyone still needed confirmation, but I had Ely as "rare" a day ago and now

Obviously I didn't get it but this at least proves it's not super rare only.

I'd rage so hard if I got super rare.

Those values should be sufficient for a formula, aside from double-checking...

Managed to get the 10m coin Thursday.. Just never wanted to put it out there on this thread really.

I feel it's really gimmicky and reflects badly on Jagex and the game in general. :unsure:

Has anyone else got any lamp xp values? We have values for the following lamps/levels

[hide]Huge Level 99

Large Level 85

Large Level 89

Medium Level 1

Medium Level 2

Medium Level 7

Medium Level 25

Medium Level 37

Medium Level 45

Medium Level 46

Medium Level 49

Medium Level 50

Medium Level 51

Medium Level 53

Medium Level 54

Medium Level 58

Medium Level 61

Medium Level 62

Medium Level 64

Medium Level 66

Medium Level 67

Medium Level 69

Medium Level 70

Medium Level 71

Medium Level 72

Medium Level 74

Medium Level 75

Medium Level 76

Medium Level 78

Medium Level 80

Medium Level 81

Medium Level 82

Medium Level 83

Medium Level 85

Medium Level 86

Medium Level 87

Medium Level 88

Medium Level 89

Medium Level 90

Medium Level 91

Medium Level 92

Medium Level 93

Medium Level 94

Medium Level 95

Medium Level 97

Medium Level 98

Medium Level 99

Medium Level 120

Small Level 1

Small Level 2

Small Level 3

Small Level 4

Small Level 9

Small Level 10

Small Level 13

Small Level 14

Small Level 19

Small Level 20

Small Level 21

Small Level 22

Small Level 23

Small Level 26

Small Level 28

Small Level 29

Small Level 31

Small Level 36

Small Level 37

Small Level 39

Small Level 41

Small Level 42

Small Level 43

Small Level 48

Small Level 50

Small Level 51

Small Level 52

Small Level 53

Small Level 54

Small Level 57

Small Level 62

Small Level 66

Small Level 69

Small Level 71

Small Level 73

Small Level 74

Small Level 75

Small Level 76

Small Level 77

Small Level 80

Small Level 81

Small Level 82

Small Level 83

Small Level 85

Small Level 87

Small Level 88

Small Level 89

Small Level 90

Small Level 91

Small Level 92

Small Level 94

Small Level 95

Small Level 96

Small Level 97

Small Level 98

Small Level 99[/hide]

Small lamp lvl 99 = 8602 xp.

 

EDIT: Oh wait. Thought you said we need..

Got my first 'rare' spin today. It was a lamp and on a f2p account, but still.

 

 

I try to spin on all my accounts in the hope of a unique super rare, but no luck yet.

 

Out of 6 spins so far today, I've seen 3 tattoos though :).

So you have to subscribe right away to claim the item, or else it's lost? How does that work anyway?

I would actually be really annoyed with coins/huge lamp reward :P, would much rather get something that could show off.

 

And just what would you "show off"? Your dumb luck?

 

It is no different than "showing off" your wealth by buying trimmed armor. To be honest though, I'd be more impressed by someone who got the "Lucky Divine Spiritshield" than a trimmed completionist cape.

What ever happened to inidividuals desiring items for their own merit; not taking into consideration what might impress others?

 

Food for thought.

 

Because personally, I ascribe more value to the "impressing" factor then I do to the simple "cool" factor. That is why I strive to be the best. I'd rather show how much better I am then most people, then simply use an item I might find slightly more attractive.

I would actually be really annoyed with coins/huge lamp reward :P, would much rather get something that could show off.

 

And just what would you "show off"? Your dumb luck?

 

It is no different than "showing off" your wealth by buying trimmed armor. To be honest though, I'd be more impressed by someone who got the "Lucky Divine Spiritshield" than a trimmed completionist cape.

What ever happened to inidividuals desiring items for their own merit; not taking into consideration what might impress others?

 

Food for thought.

 

Because personally, I ascribe more value to the "impressing" factor then I do to the simple "cool" factor. That is why I strive to be the best. I'd rather show how much better I am then most people, then simply use an item I might find slightly more attractive.

 

You have a long way to go sonny.

So you have to subscribe right away to claim the item, or else it's lost? How does that work anyway?

 

You can't spin again until the item is claimed or discarded. It seems to stay there until you either claim or discard.

I would actually be really annoyed with coins/huge lamp reward :P, would much rather get something that could show off.

 

And just what would you "show off"? Your dumb luck?

 

It is no different than "showing off" your wealth by buying trimmed armor. To be honest though, I'd be more impressed by someone who got the "Lucky Divine Spiritshield" than a trimmed completionist cape.

What ever happened to inidividuals desiring items for their own merit; not taking into consideration what might impress others?

 

Food for thought.

 

Because personally, I ascribe more value to the "impressing" factor then I do to the simple "cool" factor. That is why I strive to be the best. I'd rather show how much better I am then most people, then simply use an item I might find slightly more attractive.

 

You have a long way to go sonny.

Meh. Everyone does this. The only difference is some people deny that they do it, ironically, because it's more impressive to pretend not to care.

 

And that's not a baseless generalization, it's literally in your genes.

I would actually be really annoyed with coins/huge lamp reward :P, would much rather get something that could show off.

 

And just what would you "show off"? Your dumb luck?

 

It is no different than "showing off" your wealth by buying trimmed armor. To be honest though, I'd be more impressed by someone who got the "Lucky Divine Spiritshield" than a trimmed completionist cape.

What ever happened to inidividuals desiring items for their own merit; not taking into consideration what might impress others?

 

Food for thought.

 

Because personally, I ascribe more value to the "impressing" factor then I do to the simple "cool" factor. That is why I strive to be the best. I'd rather show how much better I am then most people, then simply use an item I might find slightly more attractive.

 

You have a long way to go sonny.

Meh. Everyone does this. The only difference is some people deny that they do it, ironically, because it's more impressive to pretend not to care.

 

And that's not a baseless generalization, it's literally in your genes.

I should have added that this was simply in video games. I play them because I enjoy the competitive aspect, as well as the progression aspect. I play to become better, and as a result I normally am better then the vast majority of players in whatever game I play. I am not above admitting this. That is part of how I have fun in a video game. Heck, others admit it too. " I am not below admitting that I like to have people oogle at my achievements, titles, and gear." QUOTE from a friend of mine on a different forum.

 

That being said, to an extent I balance personal enjoyment against being the in the top 99.5% (instead of being in the top 95%). I raid with my current guild because I think they are amazing and fun. I trained slayer in RS past 99 while leaving hunting at 70 because I found hunting useless (and boring) and slayer was enjoyable. I could have had max cape by the time I quit, but I enjoyed certain things more then others.

 

This is not to negate my previous statement: I wish to be the best, or amongst the best, but I still balance this with a certain level of what I find enjoyable.

 

What I don't understand is why people chose to be WORSE then they could. I understand not doing something because you dislike it, but I find people doing the same activity as me in an inferior way, when they have the capability to do it at the same level, mind boggling. I'm not talking about AFK training (ivy) v something faster but more attention based (teaks or w/e it is now). Im talking about things like not using potions when slaying, or using a godsword, or w/e. Maybe they find that fun? IDK, perhaps. I just find it incomprehensible.

 

A bit off topic, but germane to the quoted section of the discourse.

I think that it is a cheap way to try and make people go P2P because Jagex allows to win rewards that they need to subscribe to receive, but personally I think that it is a nice way to supplement my cash stack with a couple of thousand gp every day.

I don't know if naming names is allowed in a positive sense, but I saw this on the RSOF and decided to share: A player named 'mefrog' got a lucky Divine from the SoF. It's too far down his RSS feed to see on his adventurers log, but it's on the long version.

 

Can be seen here: http://services.runescape.com/m=adventurers-log/g=runescape/rssfeed?searchName=mefrog

 

Guess they do actually exist :o

I don't know if naming names is allowed in a positive sense, but I saw this on the RSOF and decided to share: A player named 'mefrog' got a lucky Divine from the SoF. It's too far down his RSS feed to see on his adventurers log, but it's on the long version.

 

Can be seen here: http://services.runescape.com/m=adventurers-log/g=runescape/rssfeed?searchName=mefrog

 

Guess they do actually exist :o

I love the way he starts steadily training his prayer to 75 after that ...

For Howlin: Small Lamp (Firemaking) - 8,348xp at Level 97.

 

@Above picture: So it does happen :o I don't seem to be having that "luck".

 

 

Happened to me too... and I had to get the 50gp. ;_;

That's why I just press the button and close my eyes. I don't want to experience the probably fallacious yet natural feeling that I just missed something epic by a small margin.