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May-11-2012 - The Evolution of Combat


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Inb4 summer update is not actually here until 30th August =(.
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Really looking forward to this. The people who are against a complete overhaul of combat are, quite frankly, deluded. Runescape's combat is a throwback to the past and for it to stay competitive it needs to change.

Glad to see something that people can be positive about. So tired of the SoF posts that are clogging up every thread I read.

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If it ends effective pjing and balances pvp I will be extremely happy.

Also will be extremely happy if these new things work in staking, to bring more skill into it, even rebalancing different armours weaknesses/weapon bonuses could have a big impact in staking. (armour on staking I am talking about, boxing will prob not be effected).
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Tip.it Web crew are probably now being like "ah feck" whilst scrambling to organise to make sure someone in the crew owns every single weapon and armour by release day so that when this arrives they can fairly swiftly swap in all the new stat data. Before off on to the mass of monster research that may very well be needed.

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Inb4 summer update is not actually here until 30th August =(.


Technically summer ends on Sept 21.

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Im gob smacked. They finally realise the huge untapped resource among us players who be willing to test their game for free. So we dont have to deal with so many freaking bugs..! Glitches..! Game breaking content..! Aswel as the obvious just testing things to see how we like it and make adjustments.

Im talking about the really OBVIOUS things that shouldnt exist.

Anyway as for the combat update.. I have no emotion or comment just yet. I will wait and see. The beta thing seems hopeful they are testing it properly for once which cant be a bad thing.
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A much-much needed update that can't come soon enough. With a combination of the facts that RS combat is dead, and that they're doing a beta, it shows a lot of promise. But i won't get my hopes up too high until i actually can test it for myself. I find that it really helps to have no expectations for updates. Because if they're good like bonfires and runespan, you're extra suprised :P
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I'm not excited for this at all. I like how simple RS combat is, I really don't want it to get any more "complex". However, Jagex giving us beta testing sounds kinda awesome.


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Inb4 runescape ends up looking exactly like WoW.

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About time they're making a smart move, we need more beta tests for big updates, so we can avoid game breaking glitches tbh... Also


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Really looking forward to this. The people who are against a complete overhaul of combat are, quite frankly, deluded. Runescape's combat is a throwback to the past and for it to stay competitive it needs to change.


RuneScape engine tick needs to change, because having a 600ms tick is unacceptable.
And having better combat while keeping the 600ms tick will not make anything more competitive.

Also, they are seriously going to destroy PvE with this update. Just saying you will regret it.

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I can see it now...(Amazed no one said it yet)


"We are pleased to announce the combat beta is live! Wondering where those pesky beta keys might be? Well if you get lucky you might just see one on the squeal of fortune!


In other news:

We have removed daily spins due to player feedback...."
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If it works out to be optional then I could see it being almost the perfect update. Like keep traditional combat, but if you use the active one, you get more damage/additional effects. People can still AFK, but people who actually play get rewarded.

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Cautiously optimistic.

It could be cool... or it could end up basically destroying the game and making it into a cheesier version of every other MMO already out there.
I'm also worried that balance issues are simply going to be shifted, instead of fixed.

They've stated that they're not happy with how meleers can put on ranged armour to get huge mage defense bonuses in pvp... which is fine, however, this is basically a staple in pvm combat.

It could also eliminate things like kiting.



Dunno, I'll reserve my judgement until I actually see it.

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I'm still very skeptical about this whole thing. I don't see it being anything other than a carbon copy of every other MMO out there's combat system, and I like the simple and relaxing nature of Runescape's current combat system. That said, I'd be lying if I said I wasn't somewhat excited. I'm wondering if they'll finally do away with grid based movement.
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I'm hoping they don't just copy other combat systems, but do manage to improve interaction during combat, as well as ensure that the triangle actually exists. Right now we end up with lots of issues because swapping combat gear doesn't always provide penalties to each combat style.

I want to see a lot of the issues fixed without just copying other MMOs. I also hope they are willing to fully fix old issues, for example fix/remove soaking and the life point boosts on armors. Don't just keep "adding". One interesting idea for how to fix the difference between mage/range and melee though would be for attack to be named "accuracy" and apply to all types of attacks (in combination with the main one as well) instead of just applying to melee. (Of course this would really annoy some people, but the pure system is going to have to change anyways.) But this would remove the difference between having mage/range only use one skill without having to add a new skill for both range and mage (like mage accuracy etc.) Not that I wouldn't mind having those new skills added.. But there is always the question of how to apply current xp that would be split into two changed skills it would just be a nightmare.

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Inb4 runescape ends up looking exactly like WoW.

What kind of a game would want to look and feel like WoW in 2012 ? Quite frankly, WoW looks and feels terribly outdated...


... Not saying Runescape doesn't ...

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I think it will be great because of the beta,they need to beta test every single update

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If they pull any of that you-have-to-be-a-member-to-help-us-with-beta-testing stuff...

Based on the 1 previous beta test they did (RS2) I'm gonna guess there's a 12/10 chance of it being members only, especially since 90% of the combat mechanics, gear and bosses that matter are, and will remain, members features.


RS2 beta was free to play for the last few days.


Really? Cause my account was created on RSC and I didn't get members until after RS2 launch and I don't recall being allowed on the Beta at all.


I was f2p until I could pay for it myself (i.e., way after RS2 launched), and I 100% remember doing beta for a few days (I remember doing rune mysteries twice, for one thing)

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