Kimberly Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Level appropriateness doesn't have to hurt variety if you exercise careful restraint. Going back to the pyramid plunder example, the highest PP challenge they have you complete is Floor 7, which requires 81 thieving to enter. If we were to look at a window of content say within a 10 level range below and above that floor, there are: gem stalls, King Lathas' chest, Dorgesh-Kaan chest, Flash Powder Factory, Paladins, Gnomes, Heros, Elves, Dwarf Traders. These don't all make it into the list, but they could have to spread the focus away from activities we would have already droned-to-death on. The same applies to fishing rocktails, when no one fishes cavefish despite being relatively close in level requirements. Do you see what I mean here? I understand why there is currently overlap, bu I'm saying it's unnecessary. When you put so much effort into working out a system designed to break away from the normal day-to-day activities, you would hope that what you implement doesn't undermine that by sending you to the same place you've likely ground levels at hours previously. Especially when lessening what you've offered on release day can help you achieve this goal considering the fact that daily challenges offered on a daily basis are limited to once per day. I am overlooking the fact that you can do these challenges outside of the Daily Challenge, and I do this intentionally. The system doesn't achieve its purpose without the reward system. It's merely "something to do" which is never heeded by players who gain more than an intermediate-level of knowledge about the game. While this next part is only an opinion, I strongly believe that this archaic system was only continued through to leave the manhours invested in a recommendation system in Burthrope not a completely lost cost. But putting it in new spot will only attract temporary attention as it has no lasting appeal in either educating or entertaining the player base without the reward structure attached. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 The thing is some of these things you are saying should be included ARE there. I have a challenge to fish cavefish sitting in my system and I have 99 fising, also I entirely disagree that things should be excluded just because they are the main training method. The system is about variety as in using ALL options, this includes the ones we do anyway; plus it's about giving us ideas of things to do we may not be planning to do as in getting us to go do a few rounds of pp when we might of been planning to sit and cook rocktails. The variety to which they refer does not necessarily mean doing alternate methods it means doing an assortment of things that you may not of thought to do creating variety in your personal day-to-day gameplay. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Then I guess we just disagree on the purpose of the system. :P Was an interesting side discussion nonetheless, thanks Sy. :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexek Posted September 20, 2012 Author Share Posted September 20, 2012 (edited) (Happy Birthday Kim!) Thanks! <3 ~ Kim Edited September 20, 2012 by Kimberly PoetryIndexed Picture 1Indexed Picture 2 Killed my maxed Zerker pure April 2010 Rebooting Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin0001 Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 Has anyone got an image of the Challenge Mystery Bag (in .png format)?Also could people post the rewards they got? In the following format:[skill]: [Challenge] - [skill level] - [XP rewarded (exact figures please, no ~Xk)] Mystery bag:[item] [Quantity] [Noted?] 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alg Posted September 20, 2012 Share Posted September 20, 2012 For fletching 336 magic longbows. I didn't keep track of the exp reward.Mystery bag:Uncut Dragonstone/25/yes I painted some stuff and put it on tumblr Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Estoc Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 uncut dragonstone/11/yesgrimy torstol/1/nogrimy lantadyme/1/no From the empty days of hope, deny the darknessFollow my voice, we'll run far away from hereIf only to hide, to escape this lifeAnd live forever, forever in the sun Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jys Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Mining: Strong Mining Urns - 64 - 16439 XP Had to fill 12 strong mining urns. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noctis Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 I have the "Defeat any boss in God Wars Dungeon" challenge. Are there any conditions I should be aware of before I try it? Like do I need to do most damage in a FFA/solo? Or does it count if I join a group and we all kill the boss together? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NukeMarine Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Updated Task list (I'll just copy/paste the whole list) -Slayer task: x47 (5,326xp @ 67 slayer)-Dagg bones: x5 (2138xp @ 74 prayer)-Smoke pouch: x4 (1126xp @65 summ) 181 noted pure ess. @ 15.5k gp-C6 dungeon: x1 did medium 1:1 (101,399xp @70 dung) -Carved Teak Magic Wardrobe: x120 (19,452xp @71 constr)-Teak Toy Boxes: x120 (19,452 @72 constr)-Gem Stalls: x11 (39,337xp @ 80 thieving) world hopped for this one-Adamantite items: x210 (16,933 @85 smith) 238 rocktail @506k gp-Kill lvl 145 creature: x21 (16,951 @82 str) Learn how to Learn Japanese on your own - Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners in JapaneseStop Forgetting Stuff for College and Life - Anki - a program which makes remembering things easyReach Elite Fitness - CrossFit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTheory Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Will you receive the same xp for doing any dungeon? Like a c6 large or a c1 small? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Pretty sure it has to be c6 to count toward the achievement. But I doubt the xp rate changes based on the size Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dexek Posted September 21, 2012 Author Share Posted September 21, 2012 My reward was basically par with the costs of creation. Second time I've recieved this challenge. PoetryIndexed Picture 1Indexed Picture 2 Killed my maxed Zerker pure April 2010 Rebooting Runescape Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fred_S Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 [Mining]: [Adamant Ore] - [99] - [20200][spoiler='Mystery Bag.png] Mystery bag:[Phoenix Quill] [1] [No] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GregorDGrim Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Dungeoneering - Delve into Daemonheim (c6 floor) - level 58 - 69,033 exp That's a ridiculous amount, but I'll take it. I gained three levels. [spoiler=No Tokens, But Still...] The musings of a newbie going after his second thousand levels. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_Warrior Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 So I have 2 challenges which I'm not sure I should complete: - Make 300 black d'leather items- Make 120 M'gany items From what I've heard, both of them are insanely expensive and are not adequately reimbursed.Is it still true? Should I just not bother with these two? Dragon Drops : 5 Dragon Medium Helmets, 3 Dragon Claws, 3 Dragon platelegs, 2 Dragon plateskirts, 2 Dragon Hatchets, 2 Dragon Spears, 7 pairs of Dragon Boots, 1 Dragon pickaxe, 10 Dragon defenders, 3 Dragon 2h swords, 1 Dragon armour Slice, 1 Dragon armour Lump, 1 Dragon chainbody, 1 Dragon kiteshield, 1 Dragon hasta, 1 Dragon ward, 25 Dragon knives pairsThe Warrior's Blog , Herblore Habitat - Efficient and profitable[hide=Stats and logs].:Adventurer's Log:.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Were Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Unless you really want the extra spins, don't bother. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Yes it's true and you should let them expire if you're looking to break even or profit from those challenges. The exp you receive from them are unlikely to match the gp/xp found by Grimy's spreadsheets. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NukeMarine Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Yes it's true and you should let them expire if you're looking to break even or profit from those challenges. The exp you receive from them are unlikely to match the gp/xp found by Grimy's spreadsheets. Looking forward to a populated "Do" or "Skip" or "Either" challenge list. Wonder how long it'll take with 700 challenges. Learn how to Learn Japanese on your own - Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners in JapaneseStop Forgetting Stuff for College and Life - Anki - a program which makes remembering things easyReach Elite Fitness - CrossFit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NukeMarine Posted September 21, 2012 Share Posted September 21, 2012 Mini-game teleports. Seems to teleport to home portals then gives an arrow. Conquest - Port SarimFlash Powder Factory - TaverlyStealing Creation - FaladorPest Control - no teleport (bug?) Should be Port SarimCastle Wars - YanilleBig Top - no teleportTroll invasion repair - no teleport (bug?) Should be BurthorpeDominion - Al KharidTemple Trekking - no teleportFight Caves - Port SarimTroll Invasion fight - no teleport (bug?) Should be Burthorpe I wonder if this works if you have not unlocked the home teleports. Learn how to Learn Japanese on your own - Nukemarine's Suggested Guide for Beginners in JapaneseStop Forgetting Stuff for College and Life - Anki - a program which makes remembering things easyReach Elite Fitness - CrossFit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Den Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Fish 44 Rocktails -> Guy takes 44 Rocktails and gives me a mysterious bag -> opens it -> gets 44 Rocktails. I laughed. Nice one Jagex. :P ........::::: Rainy's YouTube Channel - Rainy's Twitter - Rainy's Facebook - Rainy's DeviantArt - Rainy's Tumblr - Rainy's Tip.It Profile :::::......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 in reality, all he's doing is putting your stuff in bags and handing them to other people, so the chances of getting your own aren't that low Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
muggiwhplar Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 Concentrated coal x207:-17339 mining xp @ 83 mining-35 magic logs in mystery bag Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
michel555555 Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 If you get a slayer challenge you can co op it and your co ops kills will count towards your challenge. [spoiler=click you know you wanna]Me behave? Seriously? As a child I saw Tarzan almost naked, Cinderella arrived home from a party after midnight, Pinocchio told lies, Aladin was a thief, Batman drove over 200 miles an hour, Snow White lived in a house with seven men, Popeye smoked a pipe and had tattoos, Pac man ran around to digital music while eating pills that enhanced his performance, and Shaggy and Scooby were mystery solving hippies who always had the munchies. The fault is not mine! if you had this childhood and loved it put this in your signature! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Unknown_Warrior Posted September 22, 2012 Share Posted September 22, 2012 2 Large Sawmill tasks, 89 WC - 24,065 xp13 Beacons lighted, 95 FM - 54,534 xp5 Ourg bones, 95 Prayer - 2970 xp3 Extreme magic potions, 93 herblore - 6179 xp & 5 raw rocktails Dragon Drops : 5 Dragon Medium Helmets, 3 Dragon Claws, 3 Dragon platelegs, 2 Dragon plateskirts, 2 Dragon Hatchets, 2 Dragon Spears, 7 pairs of Dragon Boots, 1 Dragon pickaxe, 10 Dragon defenders, 3 Dragon 2h swords, 1 Dragon armour Slice, 1 Dragon armour Lump, 1 Dragon chainbody, 1 Dragon kiteshield, 1 Dragon hasta, 1 Dragon ward, 25 Dragon knives pairsThe Warrior's Blog , Herblore Habitat - Efficient and profitable[hide=Stats and logs].:Adventurer's Log:.[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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