Urza285 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I have 2-3 of each crew in the 400-500+ in stats. Not to mention I also have 2 eastern overseers and a siren whalerider. I'm not too concerned. Only thing lacking is having a 3rd decent moral crew member. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Thus Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 One of my crew died and the ship got destroyed at 85%. Heavy consequences zone is irrelevant sometimes.Imagine what it would've been at 40% :P.Account would have been instabanned. Jagex would have sent hitmen to kill my family. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Robert_R Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 One of my crew died and the ship got destroyed at 85%. Heavy consequences zone is irrelevant sometimes.Imagine what it would've been at 40% :P.Account would have been instabanned. Jagex would have sent hitmen to kill my family.Seems reasonable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Lord Dan Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 One of my crew died and the ship got destroyed at 85%. Heavy consequences zone is irrelevant sometimes.Imagine what it would've been at 40% :P.Account would have been instabanned. Jagex would have sent hitmen to kill my family.Seems reasonable. I sent a 24% success voyage out with a bunch of throwaway crewmembers just to get rid of them. The voyage failed, everyone survived. But it took 300 gunpowder from me after saying it took Slate. ??? How many hotdogs does it take to mow a garage door? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birdd Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Just recruited a new crew member with the trait "pilferer". The description says "reduces chance of partial mission success". I guess that means higher chance of not failing?Actually sounds more like the crew member would steal the partial mission reward. But that's just because it's called pilferer. Might be exactly what you said :P I would imagine it does not affect actual fail/success rate, only if you roll for a "partial success" where no one is hurt and you get less supplies than you went for, that it bumps it up to a full success. That's how I read it anyways. I would hope it doesn't bump it down to a failure, I hope the pilferering is from your enemies. Do crew rerolls carryover to the next day if they are not utilized or is the max you can have 15?You keep the 3 active ones that were available and not hired, but your rerolls max at 15. Also for whoever said "can only get 1 trade good per mission blahblah" [spoiler=Levels] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Well, I had a really bad port day today. Yesterday I didn't fail one mission, today I failed four (one in the 80% range and another well over 90%). Plus one bannerman dead after a 67% trip. I just sent out my last mission at 53% - couldn't reach the 7k requirement even with good crew and all the ship updates available. Anxiously awaiting the mayhem that will come of it. You win some, you lose some, I guess. I wonder if it's better to skip the mission when you can't reach +70% or to take the risk rather than gain nothing at all. What tactics are you guys following? Doing all the missions, or do you guys leave some open at the end of the day if they're unattainable?It depends. How much you risk should be based on what you can afford to lose. If losing that crew member means not being able to meet other voyages for the day, or the resource loss is going to slow you down more than just not going on the trip, then don't. At some point, it becomes probable that you can progress faster by not completing all your missions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loreal Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 2 special missions, not 6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aspeeder Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Ok, not sure if someone else has had a similar experience, but I just sent out a ship with an ETA of 1:08 at an 85% success rate, and no kidding it returned in less than three minutes. I'm sure there's some variation but has anyone else had a noticeably shorter trip? Oh and it was a success btw, so it's not like it failed immediately and then came back to shore. http://i700.photobucket.com/albums/ww6/aspeeder/Siggy_zpsewaiux2t.png 99 Strength since 6/02/10 99 Attack since 9/19/10 99 Constitution since 10/03/10 99 Defense since 3/14/11 99 Slayer since 8/30/11 99 Summoning since 9/10/11 99 Ranged since 09/18/11 99 Magic since 11/12/11 99 Prayer since 11/15/11 99 Herblore since 3/29/12 99 Firemaking since 5/15/12 99 Smithing since 10/04/12 99 Crafting since 9/16/13 99 Agility since 9/23/13 99 Dungeoneering since 1/1/14 99 Fishing since 2/4/14 99 Mining since 2/28/14 99 Farming since 6/04/14 99 Cooking since 6/11/14 99 Runecrafting since 10/10/14 9 Fletching since 11/11/14 99 Thieving since 11/14/14 99 Woodcutting since 11/20/14 99 Construction since 12/03/14 99 Divination since 2/22/15 99 Hunter since 2/23/15 99 Invention since 01/20/17 99 Archaeology since 5/14/22Quest Point Cape since 08/20/09 Maxed since 2/23/15 Fire Cape since 02/27/13 Slayer: 3 Leaf-Bladed Swords, 8 Black Masks, 2 Hexcrests, 26 Granite Mauls, 5 Focus Sights, 32 Abyssal Whips, 9 Dark Bows, 1 Whip Vine, 3 Staffs of Light, 15 Polypore Sticks Dragon: 9 Draconic Visages, 7 Shield Left Halves, 20 Dragon Boots, 40 Dragon Med Helms, 8 Dragon Platelegs, 6 Dragon Spears, 20 Dragon Daggers, 5 Dragon Plateskirts, 1 Dragon Chainbody, 63 Off-hand Dragon Throwing Axes, 19 Dragon Longswords, 27 Dragon Maces, 1 Dragon Ward Treasure Trails: Saradomin Full Helm, Ranger Boots, Rune Body (t), Saradomin Vambraces, Various God Pages Misc:1 Onyx,1 Ahrim's Hood, 1 Guthan's Chainskirt, 1 Demon Slayer Boots Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tnt6200 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I had a 0:30 trip on the second day that came back the second I closed the shipyard screen. My friend had a voyage that was completed in a few minutes too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Poppe Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Ok, not sure if someone else has had a similar experience, but I just sent out a ship with an ETA of 1:08 at an 85% success rate, and no kidding it returned in less than three minutes. I'm sure there's some variation but has anyone else had a noticeably shorter trip? Oh and it was a success btw, so it's not like it failed immediately and then came back to shore. Something very similar happened to me about 30 minutes ago, was considering posting it here, but was going to guess people would assume I just lost track of missions I had out. I sent a mission out in the hook region at a time of around 2:20. About 15-20 minutes later it returned in full success. I originally thought I just accidently sent out the bamboo mission I had which would take 20 minutes, but it was still there and there I was with pretty much a free 100 slate for a 20 minute wait :o. Not even sure how to report this as a glitch because I'm completely unsure how I created it :s Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cheefoo Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I just had a ship come back about an hour early. I was mighty confused. I'm still confused, but at least I now know that I'm not alone... [spoiler=I LOVE MY STATION] 01001001001001110110110100100000010101000111011101100101011011000111011001100101001000000110000101101110011001000010000001110111011010000110000101110100001000000110100101110011001000000111010001101000011010010111001100111111 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 weren't kidding about tier 3 costs got this from a clannie Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kimberly Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 The Vile Hook is a very shy captain. That's why her morale is so low. She tries so very hard to be Exuberant though. 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arcane_Rift Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Anyone see an increase in Arc and trait missions today? I'm about 90% through the skull region and maybe saw 1 or 2 bamboo missions the entire way until today. Today I received 5 or 6 Arc and 3 trait missions. ~ Arcane Rift ~:: 99 Smithing - 2007-03-04 :: :: :: 99 Crafting - 2007-06-18 :: 99 Fletching - 2007-08-27 :::: :: 99 Strength - 2009-05-28 :: :: :: :::: :: :: 99 Prayer - 2011-11-27 :: :: 99 Slayer - 2012-01-15 :::: :: 99 Summoning - 2012-12-07 :: 99 Firemaking - 2012-12-09 :: 99 Woodcutting - 2013-01-17 :: 99 Mining - 2013-01-31 :: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 yeah, it feels like they somehow just implemented trait missions and didn't say anything about not having them ready until now but that couldn't possibly be it btw hedgey your program seems to be favoring one type of stat over the other or misunderstanding how the system works, because i managed to optimize an all stat type mission higher than it did when i ran it through the simulator, and i double checked my figures to make sure i was using the thing correctly this time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Platinum_Myr Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I reached the Hook with my last voyage today. I am planning on sticking to the Skull for a bit to buy the two buildings I need and level up crew, that's 3500 gunpowder. Does anyone know if I still have a chance at getting Hook voyages? I would like the chance at a few but without risking completely stuck with missions I can't get yet. (I am also still trying to get the Siren mission as well..) If anyone could confirm whether or not I get some slate missions that would be nice :) Maxed since Sunday, January 9th, 2014Completionist since Wednesday, June 4th, 2014 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I reached the Hook with my last voyage today. I am planning on sticking to the Skull for a bit to buy the two buildings I need and level up crew, that's 3500 gunpowder. Does anyone know if I still have a chance at getting Hook voyages? I would like the chance at a few but without risking completely stuck with missions I can't get yet. (I am also still trying to get the Siren mission as well..) If anyone could confirm whether or not I get some slate missions that would be nice :) Judging by how things have gone in Skull you do get a few other region voyages, like most people had a few bamboo Arc voyages, focus just seems to dictate where the majority of voyages are from.Side-bar I like many other it seems have noticed Arc missions in Skull region have increased I'm wondering if this is a code factor; eg after x-days the region becomes 'depleted' due to your presence resulting in less missions from that region for a while. Side-bar too total trolling today: I got given 1 special voyage. No story, no scroll just 1 Voyage for the Convict to go get some gunpowder. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alphanos Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I reached the Hook with my last voyage today. I am planning on sticking to the Skull for a bit to buy the two buildings I need and level up crew, that's 3500 gunpowder. Obviously if that's how you prefer to play then have at it :). But FYI, there's substantial benefit to advancing to Hook and later backtracking for additional buildings/etc. As you continue to advance, you'll occassionally get a couple of Skull missions anyway, so it's kind of a waste if you buy everything gunpowder-related before leaving the Skull region. As a more specific example, Hook offers a higher-tier merchant crew member which gives a 20% bonus to resource rewards instead of the 10% found on Arc-region merchants. Given the patterns we've seen in POP so far, there's probably at least one more merchant later on which offers a 30-40% boost. If you're not capable of doing standard Hook missions, then finish getting ready for sure. But if you have the Skull's ship component upgrades and a decent set of Skull crew, then you're definitely better off heading to Hook ASAP and returning later. Alphanos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I reached the Hook with my last voyage today. I am planning on sticking to the Skull for a bit to buy the two buildings I need and level up crew, that's 3500 gunpowder. Obviously if that's how you prefer to play then have at it :). But FYI, there's substantial benefit to advancing to Hook and later backtracking for additional buildings/etc. As you continue to advance, you'll occassionally get a couple of Skull missions anyway, so it's kind of a waste if you buy everything gunpowder-related before leaving the Skull region. As a more specific example, Hook offers a higher-tier merchant crew member which gives a 20% bonus to resource rewards instead of the 10% found on Arc-region merchants. Given the patterns we've seen in POP so far, there's probably at least one more merchant later on which offers a 30-40% boost. If you're not capable of doing standard Hook missions, then finish getting ready for sure. But if you have the Skull's ship component upgrades and a decent set of Skull crew, then you're definitely better off heading to Hook ASAP and returning later. A large part of your reasoning runs on the assumption that crew appear based on region focus which I think is flawed seeing as many of the Arc crew still appear in whilst focused on Skull (eg varrock chef, brimhaven pirate etc.) Also with returning later - really in terms of progress there's only so far you can apply this as if you don't do the building upgrades you are hindering yourself further down the line I mean lodgings help attract better crew and shipwright gives a boost to your ships. If you just surge forward ignoring building upgrades it seems to me that your only setting yourself up to be in trouble later on. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
strilmus Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 story missions seem to be available only after specific moments; the whaler gave access to the second story mission the moment i entered the hook region, and didn't have it before that point, as in, it just showed up suddenly even though it wasn't rollover yet i'm gambling on the fact that the generator likes to screw me over with older missions to supply the remaining stuff i need to upgrade the buildings as for the ridiculously minor attraction bonuses, i theorized that with the accidental tier 4 captain my clan member got, that the bonuses actually refer to getting crew picks that's got better stats than normal in other words, the buildings aren't really all that helpful unless you've got the coin to pay for advanced units with higher costs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Sad day today we lost a wonderful swordbearing lass to treacherous men. Two voyages out and tree left. I feel it's still possible to do all the voyages in a day albeit its hard and little room for slacking off. Should probably focus on the arc again for bamboo to get stock for my workshop. After that maybe focusing on the skulls again to collect gunpowder. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howlin0001 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I'm not saying 3 ships is bad. Just that you better invest in some boat/ crew or your just going to have a third mission that can fail.Right now from my observations all of the hook voyages I've gotten have been highly manageable with my current crew. I'm not concerned with buying better crew yet, but it'll come soon after.The difficulty for my voyages went way up, 6.5k single stat requirements etc. which you definitely can't get more than ~60% on with Skull crew and ship parts. And I just had to pay ~500 gunpowder for repairs because I failed a mission at 73% (which is not in the 'heavy consequences' zone), so that 60% is a pretty big risk. In other news, 80 more slate and I got myself a nice new hull ^^.One of my crew died and the ship got destroyed at 85%. Heavy consequences zone is irrelevant sometimes.You lost your ship? Did you have to buy another one? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sy_Accursed Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 I'm not saying 3 ships is bad. Just that you better invest in some boat/ crew or your just going to have a third mission that can fail.Right now from my observations all of the hook voyages I've gotten have been highly manageable with my current crew. I'm not concerned with buying better crew yet, but it'll come soon after.The difficulty for my voyages went way up, 6.5k single stat requirements etc. which you definitely can't get more than ~60% on with Skull crew and ship parts. And I just had to pay ~500 gunpowder for repairs because I failed a mission at 73% (which is not in the 'heavy consequences' zone), so that 60% is a pretty big risk. In other news, 80 more slate and I got myself a nice new hull ^^.One of my crew died and the ship got destroyed at 85%. Heavy consequences zone is irrelevant sometimes.You lost your ship? Did you have to buy another one?I might be mis-remembering but I believe I 'lost' my ship in one of the early days; the outcome was 5 hours in dry dock opposed to 1 hour. Operation Gold Sparkles :: Chompy Kills :: Full Profound :: Champions :: Barbarian Notes :: Champions Tackle Box :: MA RewardsDragonkin Journals :: Ports Stories :: Elder Chronicles :: Boss Slayer :: Penance King :: Kal'gerion Titles :: Gold Statue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drazhor Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 So I have the Missionary and Whaler in port today.Can either do a story mission for both of them (Have the req's for them).Or I can to missions for them to get me 800 chimes and 300 slate EACH. Watdo. Visit my blog! Click the madness for more madness! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Urza285 Posted December 18, 2012 Share Posted December 18, 2012 Should have results on what the workshop is like tomorrow. Also back to the arc to collect bamboo to buy it. After that I'm camping gunpowder for other rewards. I'm wonder with the way things are would it be more interesting and worthwhile to sweep through and buy everything you can. The other optio would be to keep bruteforcing it like most everyone else. Maxed [February 14, 2012] | Completionist [October 25, 2012] | Trimmed Completionist [in Progress]Visit my Blog! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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