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So how would someone go about acquiring the massive amounts of coins needed for summoning and construction?

 

 

I was thinking about this last night. If I were to do IM, I'd just do the kiln over and over again for the uncut onyx reward. They alch for 1m coins each.

 

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There's also things like Cockroach Soldiers, I made ~600k there in two hours from making the Carapace Bodies & alching them, takes ~20 seconds per world for 3k, along with rune scim/shield drops.

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Probably better to mtk the logs and still use gp. It isn't all that hard to come by anyway, and there are other bigger issues (Crafting) that will easily outlast construction or summoning worries.

Why is crafting such an issue?

 

Well what would you do for Crafting?  Craft hides from killing dragons?

 

Gold bars from LRC

 

Am I missing something, or would you need gems too?  And I'm not aware of a way to mass-produce those.  There are gem rocks but I thought those were fairly slow.

 

You can make just gold jewelry without gems. Rarely happens on a normal account, because it isn't useful the way jewelry with gems is (if enchanted), but it's an option.

 

Also: Temple Trekking for the silver bars reward is great Crafting xp, too.

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The crafting xp/hr is still really low on temple trekking, and sadly its the best method of getting crafting xp. You'd never have enough gems to make gold crafting worth it either.

Also crafting has far more useful rewards for training than construction

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I checked the first post, and it mentions that the clan avatar buffs won't count. That implies you could join a tier 7 clan and use their loom right?

That's not in the spirit of DIY (imo) but it sounds like a possibility for craft.

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I checked the first post, and it mentions that the clan avatar buffs won't count. That implies you could join a tier 7 clan and use their loom right?

That's not in the spirit of DIY (imo) but it sounds like a possibility for craft.

Not 100% certain but I think exp is disabled in the citadel for ironman accounts.

 

Edit - Exp is capped at 25% of what you'd normally gain.

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Yeah, so it's heavily nerfed but I guess it may be worth doing anyway considering other options.  I wonder if the 25% applies to the bonus xp one can claim as well.

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If you want to level crafting to get to blue dragon hides (skip greens if hardcore), then you are going to be doing clay, glass, and yakhide stuff. All of that can be done with minimal  levels in other skills and the raws can be gotten relatively fast next to a crafting spot which is key on a new account. 

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I see it as a skillers way to get charms. In essence they are charms in my opinion.

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in addition to craft xp we also have a lot of choice xp from quest rewards.  the efficiency matrix with that 400k from wgs may not be skewed towards agil/rc/div on an ironman account....

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Is there anything disabled that will prevent ironing men to comp cape?

Probably not. We're unable to do a few quests due to minigame requirements so completionist is probably ruled out. Though I did hear they were looking for alternatives, it wont be for a few years at least before anyone is even close to maxing as an Ironman.

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Yeah, it definitely won't take many years. Just as an example, a recent pic from the screeny thread:

 

Preferred black dragon task... yum yum. Shame I can't always be on task at QBD.

 

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That is about 3-4 hours worth at QBD, which ironmen can easily do(bane+royal). And it's not as though QBD is the only monster with most drops as raw goods. The best ironmen will just power trough most skills everyone else does and gather resources from combat. I'd definitely guess under a year for when a normal ironman account gets 2595 total.

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Is there anything disabled that will prevent ironing men to comp cape?

Probably not. We're unable to do a few quests due to minigame requirements so completionist is probably ruled out. Though I did hear they were looking for alternatives, it wont be for a few years at least before anyone is even close to maxing as an Ironman.

 

 

 

I can only think of Nomad and possibly The Void Stares back, are there others I'm missing? I feel like there is a quest that needs Trouble Brewing but its been a long while for most quests for me.

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Oh boy

You see, none of this would have happened if they just used DIY [player].  But did they listen, nooo...

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