J35u5_M4 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 [hide=Mythiquedame]Whats up guys, im back here with my newest video "The annoying demon - episode 1"I hope you guys enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7hlAa2nX1I Now in 1080p!And please guys, if you like it then subscribe! Dh healing was pretty damn funny. Unspam: Almost 100m Slayer exp, crazy. :blink: Best thing is that she doesn't cannon at all. [/hide] ~~~ [hide=Ice Strykewyrms Dilemma][hide=84 hit][/hide] ...that doesn't even make sense :blink: Base hit is 28. Say the bonuses stack nicely, that would be a 10%+15%+21% (from ancient staff, hexcrest and wolpertinger) = 46% damage bonus.28*1.46 = 40.88, rounded up (does jagex ever round up?) = 41, doubled because of ice wyrm makes 82.Only with a staff of light and thus a 51% damage boost this should be possible, any idea how else this could be? :P - Just hit another one so it's really possible, still don't know how though lol It is possible and i've hit a few 88s so far with staff of light, so... :DWanted to screen the hit, but always failed somehow -.- (laptop - have to press "fn" '+ insert/prt sc) This is how it is possible: Base * X * Y * Z = Damage (rounded down) * E = Final Max Damage Base = Base DamageX = Staff BonusY = Slayer Task + Hex BonusZ = Magic Level Boosted BonusE = Elemental Bonus With the first situation (Ancient Staff), it would look like this: 28 * 10% * 15% * 21% = 42.8582, or 42 * 2 = 84 Max With the second, and the Staff of Light: 28 * 15% * 15% * 21% = 44.8063, or 44 * 2 = 88 Max So, the max hits make sense. Jagex doesn't add bonuses together in damage calculation. They take the base, add in a factor, find the new max, add in another factor, and so on. It's the reason that Ice Barrage hit 46 as a max back when Extreme Magic provided a 40% bonus. Wouldn't it be more like (Base * X) = RandomNumber1RandomNumber1 + Base = SemiDamage1(SemiDamage1 * Y) = RandomNumber2RandomNumber2 + SemiDamage1 = SemiDamage2(SemiDamage2* Z) = SemiDamage3SemiDamage3 * E = Final Damage Would be (28 * 10%) = 2.82.8 + 28 = 30.8(30.8 * 15%) = 4.624.62 + 30.8 = 35.42(35.42 * 21%) = 7.438235.42 + 7.4382 = 42.858242.8582 * 2 = 85.7164 That's the only way I got to your numbers, and when you rounded up 42.8582...Wouldn't it end up being 43 rather than 2? (If they even round) Now, the problem I see here is...How do we know they take the percentages in the order of 10%-15%-21%? Could be different and the way to get the max hit on those things would be a different formula :/[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flareboy64 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 FINALLY! Been working forever for titans <3: [hide]99 Strength 99 Fletching 99 Range 99 Hitpoints 99 Attack99 Dungeoneering <3 99 Magic 99 Smithing 99 Herblore 99 ThevingSlayer Drops: 14 whips, 22 D boots, 27 Granite Mauls, 42 Effigies, 5 Dark Bows. What would be cool is if Drakan and his minions kill all the sig heroes in the quest except Raptor who is wrecking. You and him team up and cave in some vampyre heads. He becomes a total bro in future quests and in a GM quest he receives a fatal injury and his last dying words to you are "Brofist, mang"[/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Seer Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 [hide][hide=Mythiquedame]Whats up guys, im back here with my newest video "The annoying demon - episode 1"I hope you guys enjoy. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b7hlAa2nX1I Now in 1080p!And please guys, if you like it then subscribe! Dh healing was pretty damn funny. Unspam: Almost 100m Slayer exp, crazy. :blink: Best thing is that she doesn't cannon at all. [/hide] ~~~ [hide=Ice Strykewyrms Dilemma][hide=84 hit][/hide] ...that doesn't even make sense :blink: Base hit is 28. Say the bonuses stack nicely, that would be a 10%+15%+21% (from ancient staff, hexcrest and wolpertinger) = 46% damage bonus.28*1.46 = 40.88, rounded up (does jagex ever round up?) = 41, doubled because of ice wyrm makes 82.Only with a staff of light and thus a 51% damage boost this should be possible, any idea how else this could be? :P - Just hit another one so it's really possible, still don't know how though lol It is possible and i've hit a few 88s so far with staff of light, so... :DWanted to screen the hit, but always failed somehow -.- (laptop - have to press "fn" '+ insert/prt sc) This is how it is possible: Base * X * Y * Z = Damage (rounded down) * E = Final Max Damage Base = Base DamageX = Staff BonusY = Slayer Task + Hex BonusZ = Magic Level Boosted BonusE = Elemental Bonus With the first situation (Ancient Staff), it would look like this: 28 * 10% * 15% * 21% = 42.8582, or 42 * 2 = 84 Max With the second, and the Staff of Light: 28 * 15% * 15% * 21% = 44.8063, or 44 * 2 = 88 Max So, the max hits make sense. Jagex doesn't add bonuses together in damage calculation. They take the base, add in a factor, find the new max, add in another factor, and so on. It's the reason that Ice Barrage hit 46 as a max back when Extreme Magic provided a 40% bonus. Wouldn't it be more like (Base * X) = RandomNumber1RandomNumber1 + Base = SemiDamage1(SemiDamage1 * Y) = RandomNumber2RandomNumber2 + SemiDamage1 = SemiDamage2(SemiDamage2* Z) = SemiDamage3SemiDamage3 * E = Final Damage Would be (28 * 10%) = 2.82.8 + 28 = 30.8(30.8 * 15%) = 4.624.62 + 30.8 = 35.42(35.42 * 21%) = 7.438235.42 + 7.4382 = 42.858242.8582 * 2 = 85.7164 That's the only way I got to your numbers, and when you rounded up 42.8582...Wouldn't it end up being 43 rather than 2? (If they even round) Now, the problem I see here is...How do we know they take the percentages in the order of 10%-15%-21%? Could be different and the way to get the max hit on those things would be a different formula :/[/hide][/hide] Mrs Jjb Cyn doesn't cannon either, and i talk with her alot. I am known only as The Seer. I have many names and many different forms. Cross me at your own risk, fight me at your own peril, but join me and fight by my side, and none shall stand before our power.Owner of the Quest, Firemaking*2-12-08*, Fletching, Magic, Defense, Cooking, HP, Attack, Strength, Herblore, Summoning, Farming and Prayer Capes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior5024 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 ITS DONE <3 I missed it? GAH! Congratulations Spiroff!! You've worked amazingly hard for months, and you deserve it if for no other reason then you are a good person :^_^: No unspam, about to fix my computer though, so I can take pics again. So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Laura Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 No unspam, about to fix my computer though, so I can take pics again.You don't need an "unspam" to post on this thread. ;) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fishy227 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Got a pretty good clue from a slayer task., 730k xSoulgazerElysian Sigil ---- 11/24/10 ---- 550M Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wantmyar Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 <3 wanty Maging in melee range, haven't died once in 2 hours of duel arena so far. :DYou're welcome babe C(21)H(30)O(2) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DeEliteOne Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 <3 wanty Maging in melee range, haven't died once in 2 hours of duel arena so far. :DYou're welcome babeme next plz? :-D Inefficiency = fun. That's objective and can't be debated. Ever. Blog to 200m in all skills.Max cape achieved November 5th, 2011.Completionist cape achieved December 29th, 2011.Final Boss title achieved December 28th, 2014.Trimmed completionist cape achieved November 7th, 2015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blutters Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 ILUEric :) :) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toast647 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Time to get more capes Come to #tip-it on Swift IRC, if you're cool Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peronix Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Cape #3 using my new full slayer helm. Jad got creamed. [hide][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lunar_Drifter Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 No unspam, about to fix my computer though, so I can take pics again.You don't need an "unspam" to post on this thread. ;) I try to tell people that ALL THE TIME but nobody listens. Unspam in context of this thread makes me mad. Retired Tip.It Mod || Admin and Founder of Caesar 3 Mod Squad! All are welcome! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
la la la Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I try to tell people that ALL THE TIME but nobody listens. Unspam in context of this thread makes me mad.Everyone knows that it isn't an official rule, but it makes people feel more useful in their posting. For example, I would now say: UNSPAMMMM Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
warrior5024 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 I know I don't need any content, but as a frequent reader of this, it is rather upsetting to see a post with no story in it, so that's why I put that. So, Lone Star, now you see that evil will always triumph because good is dumb. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
D Jay99 Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 That's the only way I got to your numbers, and when you rounded up 42.8582...Wouldn't it end up being 43 rather than 2? (If they even round) Now, the problem I see here is...How do we know they take the percentages in the order of 10%-15%-21%? Could be different and the way to get the max hit on those things would be a different formula :/[/hide]Jagex always (I think, might be some exceptions) rounds down, and the order doesn't matter of course. :Plrn2ruffini O:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bladewing Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 That's the only way I got to your numbers, and when you rounded up 42.8582...Wouldn't it end up being 43 rather than 2? (If they even round) Now, the problem I see here is...How do we know they take the percentages in the order of 10%-15%-21%? Could be different and the way to get the max hit on those things would be a different formula :/[/hide]Jagex always (I think, might be some exceptions) rounds down, and the order doesn't matter of course. :Plrn2ruffini O:)The order you multiply percentages has no effect on the final product. c.f. Commutativity They do indeed round down. Using a +7 magic boost and a Staff of Light I am only able to hit 38s with fire surge (76s on Ice wyrms). 1.15*1.21*28 = 38.96. How to Chin Nechyraels for fast XP and profit Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aslan Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Why do people mostly get the farm levels here?[hide=something nice][/hide]Farm runs include 5 pineapples/day and 10 willows/day and also gathering cactus spices.Going to keep them till 99. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Assume Nothing Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Not bad for a week's worth. Amirite Oh and over half the PvP items are corrupt. Corrupt loves me =( "Ooo Vls!!! O corrupt" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orc Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Familiarisation glitches :razz: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Peronix Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 ^ /Facepalm. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viralaether Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 so tip it how did you spend your 40 minutes? [hide=drops]10 black masks, 39 dragon boots, 21 whip, 9 dark bow, 7 dragon legs, 8 mauls, 3 dragon left half, 2 dragon spear, 2 hexcrest, 1 kbd heads, 10 dragon med, 2 R ammy, 2 granite legs, 1 bandos boots , 1 bandos hilt , 1 bandos chestplate, 1 saradomin sword(ls), 2 dragon claws(ls)(solo)[/hide][hide=Viralaether's guide to Mac use]1) take your mac2) drop it off your roof3) ??????4) Profit![/hide]1/7/9 quest cape ||| 5/6/9 all diaries ||| 7/14/9 300 rank MA ||| 4998th to 99 summoning on 2/27/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoeDaStudd Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 so tip it how did you spend your 40 minutes?Waterfiends by the look of it.Use the ones in the CT with a decent combat familiar its literally double kill per hour. [hide=Drops]Dragon Axe x11Berserker Ring x9Warrior Ring x8SeercullDragon MedDragon Boots x4 - all less then 30 kcGodsword Shard (bandos)Granite Maul x 3Solo only - doesn't include barrows[/hide][hide=Stats][/hide] Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
deletemeplease Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 Meh. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
viralaether Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 so tip it how did you spend your 40 minutes?Waterfiends by the look of it.Use the ones in the CT with a decent combat familiar its literally double kill per hour.i did, it was abit low b/c i forgot 2nd iron titan and i did bork which has set charms that are not multiplied [hide=drops]10 black masks, 39 dragon boots, 21 whip, 9 dark bow, 7 dragon legs, 8 mauls, 3 dragon left half, 2 dragon spear, 2 hexcrest, 1 kbd heads, 10 dragon med, 2 R ammy, 2 granite legs, 1 bandos boots , 1 bandos hilt , 1 bandos chestplate, 1 saradomin sword(ls), 2 dragon claws(ls)(solo)[/hide][hide=Viralaether's guide to Mac use]1) take your mac2) drop it off your roof3) ??????4) Profit![/hide]1/7/9 quest cape ||| 5/6/9 all diaries ||| 7/14/9 300 rank MA ||| 4998th to 99 summoning on 2/27/10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jon Arcane Posted February 16, 2010 Share Posted February 16, 2010 So, as I suspected after getting that Abby Demon Head my months of no slayer loot would end - it came to pass! My first Spiritual Mages task since getting that lovely drop and here is my loot after completing the task: Cheers for the extra 1.9m Jagex! :thumbsup: edit - Clue netted me a Sara skirt and a magic comp bow. Oh well atleast it brings me up to 2m from one task! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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