Most over-rated band ever?

[Lenticular_J]

They sold more than anyone else, ever. That's pretty worthy of listening to.

[attacx]

The Jonas Brothers.

 

HATE THEM :evil: :evil:

[OldJoe]

Guns n Roses.

 

I can't stand listening to them.

[Cabbage_Boii]

Definetly with you on soulja boy, oh god gives me shivers just thinking of crank dat :thumbdown:

[Range_This11]

Hm, really, why do people consider the Beatles over-rated?

 

A lot of the people loved them because they were so "peaceful". I've always thought that if I wanted to listen to "everyone love each other" music, I'd just listen to THE KING of that style, Cat Stevens.

[Kalphite]

 

A lot of the people loved them because they were so "peaceful".

 

 

 

Bang bang, Maxwell's silver hammer came down upon his head

 

Bang bang, Maxwell's silver hammer made sure he was dead

 

 

 

True, that is one of the only exceptions.

 

 

 

I think it was just the general catchiness that made them popular, but I don't know.

[Intriguing]

My impression is that the two main reasons the Beatles got popular in the first placer were firstly the fact that they had very catchy songs with wonderful melodies backed by good musicianship. And secondly that they were doing something new and different. Not only in terms of their music, but also in terms of their look. Of course, so many bands afterwards copied them, so when we listen to them now, having already heard the bands that were inspired by them, they don't appear as original and out-there as they did when they were first around.

 

That said, I wasn't around when they first came out, so this is all just speculation.

[Nom]

Bang bang, Maxwell's silver hammer came down upon his head

 

Bang bang, Maxwell's silver hammer made sure she was dead

 

 

 

Do-do-do-doooo-do

 

 

 

It's still a light-hearted song, though. Which is basically what you get from the Bealtes: whimsical nonsense like half the Abbey Road album, or else light love songs and slow, deeper ones. With a few exceptions.

[Agunimon979]

Alot of the beatless popularity is owed to the "Paul is Dead" hoax.

[muggiwhplar]

Dragonforce, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix and all the mainstream artists on MTV

 

 

 

I'm sorta biased though cuz I don't really like much music other than progressive rock or classical music... most other kinds of music are like 3 minutes long and stay within the same key and time signature the whole time ... boooring

[cheese666me]

Dragonforce, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix and all the mainstream artists on MTV

 

 

 

I'm sorta biased though cuz I don't really like much music other than progressive rock or classical music... most other kinds of music are like 3 minutes long and stay within the same key and time signature the whole time ... boooring

 

 

 

Jimi hendrix isnt over-rated at all, he was incredibly talented.

[muggiwhplar]

Dragonforce, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix and all the mainstream artists on MTV

 

 

 

I'm sorta biased though cuz I don't really like much music other than progressive rock or classical music... most other kinds of music are like 3 minutes long and stay within the same key and time signature the whole time ... boooring

 

 

 

Jimi hendrix isnt over-rated at all, he was incredibly talented.

 

 

 

He was very influential, but whenever I hear about him, I hear him being regarded as the "best guitar player of all time" - and they usually mean as far as skill/technicality goes, which definitely isn't true

[AdioLovesSquall]

Dragonforce, The Beatles, Led Zeppelin, AC/DC, Nirvana, Jimi Hendrix and all the mainstream artists on MTV

 

 

 

I'm sorta biased though cuz I don't really like much music other than progressive rock or classical music... most other kinds of music are like 3 minutes long and stay within the same key and time signature the whole time ... boooring

 

 

 

Jimi hendrix isnt over-rated at all, he was incredibly talented.

 

 

 

He was very influential, but whenever I hear about him, I hear him being regarded as the "best guitar player of all time" - and they usually mean as far as skill/technicality goes, which definitely isn't true

 

 

 

What does it matter? The best guitar player should be able to craft. That's the number one skill in music in general, the way you craft things. Even the most technical of players/bands (Dream Theater, Steve Vai, etc.) fail in this regard.

[Intriguing]

What does it matter? The best guitar player should be able to craft. That's the number one skill in music in general, the way you craft things. Even the most technical of players/bands (Dream Theater, Steve Vai, etc.) fail in this regard.

 

I'm not saying that speed and technicality is everything. As you've already pointed out, there are plenty of musicians who have amazing technique and are capable of playing very fast, and yet have pathetic musicianship as a whole (Yngwie Malmsteen, anyone?). But I would disagree with your statement that a musician's ability to "craft" their playing is the number one skill. It's damn important, but so is technique, inbuilt knowledge of theory, etc. I would argue that all of these things are as important as each other in terms of measuring the skill of a musician (though some are more important than others within certain genres). So, although you're correct in that Hendrix was indeed skilled in feeling the music, he lacked in other areas, which for me nullifies him from being one of the best guitarists in the world.

[Jernlov]

What does it matter? The best guitar player should be able to craft. That's the number one skill in music in general, the way you craft things. Even the most technical of players/bands (Dream Theater, Steve Vai, etc.) fail in this regard.

The way you perform is as important as the composing itself.

 

 

 

Most bands I like are pretty overrated, come to think of it. Most of them are well-known power metal bands like Sonata Arctica and Gamma Ray; neither of which are as good as the fanbases like to think they are. They're good bands, the power metal feel is there, the feeling in the songs is there but they're just not that good. The only power metal band that I think lives up to its fanbase is Blind Guardian and they're not even my favourite power metal band. Sonata Arctica is my favourite. Siége-era Kamelot lives up to its hype because Khan really is that good of a singer. The music is a little boring after the first listen though, not something you want to have on repeat for hours on end. Nightwish, first two albums are underrated masterpieces; while the others are still pretty good, they don't live up to the first album and all of the hate for "Dark Passion Play" winds me up. I used to dislike it but I sat down one day and listened to the album and realised that despite Tarja not being there and a darker sound, it still is Nightwish. Tuomas' compositional ability is still there along with the cheesy keyboards that I so love. Dark Moor is good, and I guess you could add them to the list along with Blind Guardian, although they're a tad pushed by a small few.

 

 

 

Now for an underrated power metal band: Manilla Road. Never heard anyone talk about them, ever (although I think Adio mentioned them in a thread not long ago) but they're quite the gem in a sea of stones.

[muggiwhplar]

What does it matter? The best guitar player should be able to craft. That's the number one skill in music in general, the way you craft things. Even the most technical of players/bands (Dream Theater, Steve Vai, etc.) fail in this regard.

 

 

 

My point was that people regard him as being the greatest technical player, which he isn't

 

 

 

Dunno why you feel Dream Theater is incapable of composing quality music... each album has its own style to it... whether its heavy metal or classical

[AdioLovesSquall]

Of course, of course. We must never forget, one needs to learn how to play! But, I feel if you have nothing to play, then why play? All of them are VERY important, but the feel needs to be there. A composition worth listening to. Knowing how to play the music itself! Much like the aforementioned Manilla Road, the very dirty and disorderly feel of the entire Crystal Logic album really benefits it. I couldn't imagine it being played differently. I guess great albums by subpar musicians have really spoiled me. :lol:

 

 

 

Also, no band is truly overrated. We just like what we like. If the music feels unauthentic and/or unsure of itself then perhaps listening to something else for a while might freshen it up or something else entirely. I really do like Battalions of Fear-era Blind Guardian. Really cheery speed metal.

 

 

 

as for something like manilla road, try Legend (US) and the first 3 Fates Warning albums. Really sweet power metal.

 

 

 

of course he isn't, he's just popular and was a true innovator. in this case, he had a perfect balance. those lists are bollocks anyways, and lol dream theater is poor imo, fates warning is where its at!

[dragoonson]

Silver's right about Dark Passion Play.I tried to avoid the songs,in case I hated them,but once I listened to them,some maintain the old style with Tarja,and some are new-ish.Which is good,the first two albums were awesome,but after a few the same style gets boring,a little.

 

 

 

As for Kamelot.I love the guy's vocals,he has a great way of expressing the feelings he needs to.

 

 

 

Over-rated bands:

 

Whatever it is people in my class listen to.No cookies if you realise they're trying to act cool.I've had people listen to "Teenagers" right in front of my face acting cool.Not that there's anything wrong,its just not a very tough sounding song.I just switched on NIB and beat the [wagon] out of his piss.(Well,he said something about a close friend of mine)

[AdioLovesSquall]

Silver's right about Dark Passion Play.I tried to avoid the songs,in case I hated them,but once I listened to them,some maintain the old style with Tarja,and some are new-ish.Which is good,the first two albums were awesome,but after a few the same style gets boring,a little.

 

 

 

As for Kamelot.I love the guy's vocals,he has a great way of expressing the feelings he needs to.

 

 

 

Over-rated bands:

 

Whatever it is people in my class listen to.No cookies if you realise they're trying to act cool.I've had people listen to "Teenagers" right in front of my face acting cool.Not that there's anything wrong,its just not a very tough sounding song.I just switched on NIB and beat the [wagon] out of his piss.(Well,he said something about a close friend of mine)

 

 

 

try this:

 

 

 

 

 

 

You can dance

 

You can jive

 

Havin' the time of your life

 

See that girl

 

Watch that scene

 

Dig In

 

The Dancing Queen

 

 

 

speaking of which, i hate mamma mia, someone kill me for ever sneaking into that.

[reaper88888]

Almost everything made in the past decade or two. Note the almost. I'll leave you to use your own personal preferences to determine which bands/artists are not included. If you don't like what I said, either respond with something constructive or don't respond at all.

[Meldar]

DragonForce and Shi-I mean SlipKnot.

[cheese666me]

DragonForce and Shi-I mean SlipKnot.

 

 

 

finally someone said slipknot else than me ;)

[JeremyM]

Green Day

 

 

 

To be honest I thought all there work before american idiot was quality, Only after the American idiot album when they got really big and everyone bummed them is when they got too overrated.

 

Not a true fan to many bands, are you?

 

 

 

If a band becomes popular, why do people tend to say they started going downhill? Is it because people want to be away from popular bands, you want to be one of the few fans, be the outcasts? Please state your reasoning, I'd like to understand why the hell people do that.

 

 

 

i agree with Brad (i think he said it), i liked green day's old stuff way better than american idiot. he, just like me, is probably saying that because he liked there older music better and everyone started liking them because of their new stuff which i dont think is as good.

 

 

 

but i think acdc is most overrated. then it goes to pink floyd.

[Range_This11]

 

but i think acdc is most overrated. then it goes to pink floyd.

 

Pink Floyd is an acquired taste. You either like long drawn out intros or you don't. It's what most people find particularly bad about Pink Floyd. But I'll agree with you on AC DC.

[aquariusman]

I couldn't even tell you, because I don't watch MTV/Much Music anymore. If we are ignoring contributions to the music industry, I think it's safe to say that every pioneer in a music genre is overrated. Why? Because they will be average. They wouldn't have anything of a similar sound to compare themselves to, which means that they are basically just making it up as the go along. That is why they can be considered good. They aren't good musically, they just helped form music as we know it today.

 

 

 

Rap and rock (Rock being just about anything anyone on these forums like) both hate each other, so neither are overrated or underrated, because for every person I know that likes one, another hates the other.

 

 

 

And believe it or not, I would say that Buckethead is an incredibly underrated artist. Most people will only listen to Jordan, which is a horrible song (And that is why they only hear that), but I quite like some of his other songs, like Soothsayer. I don't really like how he wears the mask, since it hides any emotion you could see.

 

 

 

Anything out of MTV is overrated, I just can't name anything specific there's so much.