200M in all Skills

[Jadinko]

I've read this several weeks ago and thouht it was utter tosh. In a self conducted servery of 100000 people who had a birthday on the 1st of jan I found that they all shared the same birthday. Therefore EVERYONE shares the same birthday. I also conducted a survey in my class on those who liked monday mornings. No one liked monday morning there for 100% of the population dislikes monday mornings. I conducted a servey with myself on favourite foods and found that lasagne was the top choice. It might be a safe bet to say it's everyone favourite choice.

 

This is not at all how statistics works... Your assumptions about the population from your sample have a certain confidence, you neglect to mention them or even understand them. This is why the birthday problem makes no sense to you.

 

Statistics can be so easy manipulated that it's best to take them with a pinch of salt. I still stand there there is 8 combinations of each stage and there is 4 stages. 8^4 does = 4096. But I guess there is a block which stop you having two things in one effigy which will half it. I only have a GCSE understanding of math and that is only C grade.

 

Statistics can not be manipulated. It is an exact science. The meaning behind the statistical outcome can be misrepresented and/or misunderstood.

 

Long story short effigies do not stack. The easiest way to understand this is that the four pairs of skills that any given effigy goes through is not determined upon the drop. Each time a player opens a stage the game rolls a die for the next stage's pair.

 

/argument lets move on.

 

Source?

[Xensure]

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I've read this several weeks ago and thouht it was utter tosh. In a self conducted servery of 100000 people who had a birthday on the 1st of jan I found that they all shared the same birthday. Therefore EVERYONE shares the same birthday. I also conducted a survey in my class on those who liked monday mornings. No one liked monday morning there for 100% of the population dislikes monday mornings. I conducted a servey with myself on favourite foods and found that lasagne was the top choice. It might be a safe bet to say it's everyone favourite choice.

 

This is not at all how statistics works... Your assumptions about the population from your sample have a certain confidence, you neglect to mention them or even understand them. This is why the birthday problem makes no sense to you.

 

Statistics can be so easy manipulated that it's best to take them with a pinch of salt. I still stand there there is 8 combinations of each stage and there is 4 stages. 8^4 does = 4096. But I guess there is a block which stop you having two things in one effigy which will half it. I only have a GCSE understanding of math and that is only C grade.

 

Statistics can not be manipulated. It is an exact science. The meaning behind the statistical outcome can be misrepresented and/or misunderstood.

 

Long story short effigies do not stack. The easiest way to understand this is that the four pairs of skills that any given effigy goes through is not determined upon the drop. Each time a player opens a stage the game rolls a die for the next stage's pair.

 

/argument lets move on.

 

 

Source?

 

Process of deduction. If there were in fact 4096 different effigies jagex would have to make up a different item code for all of them and then they would have to add each of them to the drop table that contain effigies. they would also have to assign the non-stackable property to all of them. This process of coding make no sense what so ever. It makes much more sense to just design effigies the way I suggested and then you only need 1 spot on the drop table making things much more manageable.

 

I suppose this is a bit of conjecture and the opposite of an argumentum ad hominem (confirmation bias?), assuming that Jagex makes intelligent programming decisions, but I would bet money on that this is the way the effigies are designed.

[Hedgehog]

[Lord Paul]

:shock:

That's insane.. you've just proved that, despite the less than 1/trillionth chance that it could be true, EFFIGIES DO INDEED STACK. I vote that the Hedgehogian Impossibility be named in honor of you. It will be used to show that despite what statistics tell us, you can never discount tiny probabilities.

 

I know this is a bold question, but could you please investigate one of the effigies and tell us the combination so that we will know for future reference? It's a shame that it's so rare, otherwise there could be some serious record setting.

[Fallstar]

Not bad for a paint job.

[Lethe_Keres]

:shock:

That's insane.. you've just proved that, despite the less than 1/trillionth chance that it could be true, EFFIGIES DO INDEED STACK. I vote that the Hedgehogian Impossibility be named in honor of you. It will be used to show that despite what statistics tell us, you can never discount tiny probabilities.

 

I know this is a bold question, but could you please investigate one of the effigies and tell us the combination so that we will know for future reference? It's a shame that it's so rare, otherwise there could be some serious record setting.

 

You seriously just got trolled. Lol. Effigies do not stack even if they are of the same combination. If they did you could bank loads more then what Mithril banked or what Richard currently has banked. Mithril had 512 and at least 30% of them had to be of the same stages and they did not stack.

[Hedgehog]

Nah, Paul knew

[levine1996]

Very funny, hedgehog :wink:

[Exp_Freak]

this vid was re uploaded, so ill repost since it was removed.

 

[Capo_di_Capi]

 

this vid was re uploaded, so ill repost since it was removed.

 

 

 

 

That's an impressive goal, doubt if he will accomplish it though. If he does, I'm pretty sure he got the most XP in a year. Suomi didn't get 2.25B or more in a 12-month period, did he?

[Luwts]

 

this vid was re uploaded, so ill repost since it was removed.

 

 

 

 

That's an impressive goal, doubt if he will accomplish it though. If he does, I'm pretty sure he got the most XP in a year. Suomi didn't get 2.25B or more in a 12-month period, did he?

 

Suomi got a little under 2b in a year.

[Gemeos2]

I don't see how people and himself say that Dragonseance is efficiet now I see that Fletching method.

[Vann]

Would it be smart to corp for crims/blues for 96 summoning so I can use yak to slay. Or would wyverns/wfs be a better option? I figure with corp I have a chance (albeit small) of a sigil which would be nice since I lost all my dicing profits from being hacked recently.

 

Peace,

Vann

[Gemeos2]

I have no idea about gp/hr from Corp but Glacors wouldn't be a bad option. Good effigys, cash/hr and charms.

[Lethe_Keres]

I don't see how people and himself say that Dragonseance is efficiet now I see that Fletching method.

 

Says the person getting 200m skills in easy skills and not even maxed overall total.

[Jordyy]

I don't see how people and himself say that Dragonseance is efficiet now I see that Fletching method.

 

Says the person getting 200m skills in easy skills and not even maxed overall total.

In terms of hours Cooking doesn't recquire all 99s in order to get it to 200M. So it's justified, you can also get a lot of skills in many skills before effigies will affect hours due to blocking in many skills and not affect the whole 200Ms drastically. I dont know the exact number but it's around 150M exp for the slower effigy options and 200M for the faster one. It's a bit annoying hearing people whine about others gamestyles. play how you want.

 

It might be more efficient to do dung first though, but leave your points for chaotics and other rewards, and because dung gives exp in almost all skills. He's only lost an hour so it;s no big deal.

[Tama]

I don't see how people and himself say that Dragonseance is efficiet now I see that Fletching method.

 

Please just shut the [bleep] up with all your efficiency talk.

[Hedgehog]

Please respect others' opinions.

[Anticipate]

I don't see how people and himself say that Dragonseance is efficiet now I see that Fletching method.

I agree. He got master rc robes just to look cool or something.

[Quyneax]

I don't see how people and himself say that Dragonseance is efficiet now I see that Fletching method.

I agree. He got master rc robes just to look cool or something.

The most efficient way to get 200m in all skills and master runecrafter robes is playing GOP before 200m rc. A goal can never be inefficient. That is final.

[asfcjfdyitfhglh]

By that time, Suomi will be 200M all

[Gemeos2]

I don't see how people and himself say that Dragonseance is efficiet now I see that Fletching method.

 

Says the person getting 200m skills in easy skills and not even maxed overall total.

 

I don't want to start a discussion about me so just end this here. Fast skills are more efficient since a update to speed slow skills reduce more hours than in a fast skill. Also, I don't care about maxed total lvl. 200m Dungeoneering would give me about 2m Cooking Xp, so I didn't wasted much more than 2 hours. Also, I belive Dungeoneering will get more updates in the future and eventually the Xp rate will be higher. Besides that, I hate Dungeoneering.

 

I wasn't flaming Dragonseance, I even have him added. I was just saying that I clearly can't understand how people and him self call effiicient. I don't even care if he is efficient or not, but don't say he is when he isn't. This is just my opinion, I'm not flamming. Also, don't make a big deal out of this. I know many people favorite skill is Drama, but please avoid training that this time :razz:

[tintin113]

I don't see how people and himself say that Dragonseance is efficiet now I see that Fletching method.

 

Says the person getting 200m skills in easy skills and not even maxed overall total.

 

I don't want to start a discussion about me so just end this here. Fast skills are more efficient since a update to speed slow skills reduce more hours than in a fast skill. Also, I don't care about maxed total lvl. 200m Dungeoneering would give me about 2m Cooking Xp, so I didn't wasted much more than 2 hours. Also, I belive Dungeoneering will get more updates in the future and eventually the Xp rate will be higher. Besides that, I hate Dungeoneering.

 

I wasn't flaming Dragonseance, I even have him added. I was just saying that I clearly can't understand how people and him self call effiicient. This is just my opinion, I'm not flamming. Also, don't make a big deal out of this.

 

Grammar please. Also it would be productive to post why you don't understand it, post a better method for example, rather than just posting a comment that at the very least implies negativity.

[DrS3]

Love how this thread gets off topic every two pages.

[Xensure]

Would it be smart to corp for crims/blues for 96 summoning so I can use yak to slay. Or would wyverns/wfs be a better option? I figure with corp I have a chance (albeit small) of a sigil which would be nice since I lost all my dicing profits from being hacked recently.

 

Peace,

Vann

 

Based on your stats if you want 99 slayer eventually I would just do that. Doing that would also get you 99 defense. If you are looking to profit to after shard and second costs I would do TDs with a polypore hybrid rather than corp, they are fairly slow charms, but you would also probably get 99 defense in that time and certainly profit.

 

You could also make a decent amount at wyverns if you yak the bones.