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Woah...is this even real? Seems unlikely someone has full pernix and the bow to test this.

 

 

 

Does ruby bolt (e) work at all on Nex?

 

go try it yourself...

we die trying and you are asking..

 

lol .. jk

 

They say the second mouse gets the cheese :wink:

 

Jagex said the new armors will change the way we think about combat... But I have to ask, what exactly does this change?

Nothing, they are very out of touch with the game.

 

The way it was worded, I was expecting a paradigm shift of sorts. Slayer is not going to change. Very few will risk this armor in dangerous PVP, and those that do will probably get refused fights for a whilie. Bossing will be easier as the armor makes brew/ovls much better, especially if brews/armor stack.

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Jagex said the new armors will change the way we think about combat... But I have to ask, what exactly does this change?

Doesn't change anything unless you are a billionaire.

 

Depends on how common the drops are, I have a feeling they might be more common then we think. I mean, each kill there is a chance for Nex to drop 10 of the new good items. I also wouldn't be surprised if they had a droprate on par with other godwars areas rather then the corp. Given that other Godwars bosses drop at most four uniqe drops, and Nex drops ten, then the chance of getting a drop on any given kill would be the same if the droprate is the same. Especially given the time it takes to bring down Nex, the droprate isn't as likely to be super rare.

 

Really it is too soon to say, whips used to be only for the most elite and rich at one time, but due to supply and demand they leveled out. I can't see a reason why the huge demand and potential supply will stop Nex from being camped on all worlds for a few months until the drops start decreasing in price. People will develop methods to speed up kills, effective strategies will be found.

 

Of course they will be expensive, but to assume that they will always only be for billionaires is crazy, given a year to six months I feel the prices will become far more realistic and the new gear will come to have an impact. Especially if free trade comes out and there is no reason to hoard it.

 

so true...they will be 100mil max for set or who knows maybe down to 50mil... just wait and see..

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Changes the way merchers can look in W2 standing around with the armor. This stuffs going to be more expensive than every piece of 3rd age, kingly, druidic, cosmetic and spirit shield combined. This update must be why they're bringing out free trade if you catch my drift.

 

I want to see armor that takes skill to get, not no lifing runescapes GE. Whatever happened to that smithing update we were supposed to get...

So much anger I see here...

 

You want to see armor that takes skill to get? Grab a team and go get the armor as a drop. The hardest boss in runescape isn't "skill" based enough for you?

 

You don't need to buy anything.

 

I think he means something that can't be purchased, he's specifically referring to merchants that stand around all day.

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Wonder what the most efficient team size would be to keep her from healing a lot.

 

5 man? 10 man?

 

10 men and 2 women.. :D

 

why you forgot women ?

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I was in there just now, black hide only, monster examine runes. I just kept running (to examine minions but they were dead, lol) and really only needed monkfish and ppots to stay perfectly safe. That was with other 11 people in there (before you go down the stairs it tells you how many there are).

 

Either it's attrition or the minis are crucial.

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Jagex said the new armors will change the way we think about combat... But I have to ask, what exactly does this change?

Doesn't change anything unless you are a billionaire.

 

Depends on how common the drops are, I have a feeling they might be more common then we think. I mean, each kill there is a chance for Nex to drop 10 of the new good items. I also wouldn't be surprised if they had a droprate on par with other godwars areas rather then the corp. Given that other Godwars bosses drop at most four uniqe drops, and Nex drops ten, then the chance of getting a drop on any given kill would be the same if the droprate is the same. Especially given the time it takes to bring down Nex, the droprate isn't as likely to be super rare.

 

Really it is too soon to say, whips used to be only for the most elite and rich at one time, but due to supply and demand they leveled out. I can't see a reason why the huge demand and potential supply will stop Nex from being camped on all worlds for a few months until the drops start decreasing in price. People will develop methods to speed up kills, effective strategies will be found.

 

Of course they will be expensive, but to assume that they will always only be for billionaires is crazy, given a year to six months I feel the prices will become far more realistic and the new gear will come to have an impact. Especially if free trade comes out and there is no reason to hoard it.

 

so true...they will be 100mil max for set or who knows maybe down to 50mil... just wait and see..

 

The only possibility is that the richest of the rich will turn to it as the next items to hoard, this will be dependent on their rarity though as well as how soon free trade comes out. I would be cautious paying billions for a set if it lost all that street in a single update.

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Not really surprising, when corp came out people massed it and still couldn't kill it very easily. Probably the same deal here; once all of those 138s with OVLs actually know what they're doing Nex will go down pretty quickly.

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seems simple enough, just a long fight. looking forward to trying out the new bow + mage/range gear, torva i couldn't care less about, it's no better than bandos for slaying.

 

I really don't see how the new armour really CHANGES anything, like jagex were trying to make out. the richer people / persistent boss hunters get new nice armour, people get to mage / range things a little quicker. whats changed really?

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8 man its not THAT hard

Heh, the Angel of Death says otherwise :P

 

(Just messing with you, I'm sure in a couple of days it'll all be mapped out and strategic).

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seems simple enough, just a long fight. looking forward to trying out the new bow + mage/range gear, torva i couldn't care less about, it's no better than bandos for slaying.

 

I really don't see how the new armour really CHANGES anything, like jagex were trying to make out. the richer people / persistent boss hunters get new nice armour, people get to mage / range things a little quicker. whats changed really?

 

That as this armour filters out suddenly all 3 classes have 400 extra lp. Taking the unpotted max from 990 to 1390 which will make significant changes the ways many bosses and pvp tactics can be faced/dealt with.

 

Plus rangers getting a top end equipment with 0 ammo costs makes ranging much more viable at max power.

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Heh, the Angel of Death says otherwise :P

 

(Just messing with you, I'm sure in a couple of days it'll all be mapped out and strategic).

wasnt even our team's grave ;( but someone did die when it was redbarred because they refused to tele

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If people used BGS specials (perhaps even ZGS) and throwing knives I reckon it wouldn't be too bad. Noone's reported about the cannon yet I believe, and if that works (I doubt it though) it would be even better too. Also what about emerald bolts (e) on the mages? I'm quite clueless because I haven't been able to have a chance to go down myself though, so just throwing ideas out there. :P Just videos aren't enough really.

 

I predict that someone will find a safespot and solo it like what happened to the Corp Beast. :P

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seems simple enough, just a long fight. looking forward to trying out the new bow + mage/range gear, torva i couldn't care less about, it's no better than bandos for slaying.

 

I really don't see how the new armour really CHANGES anything, like jagex were trying to make out. the richer people / persistent boss hunters get new nice armour, people get to mage / range things a little quicker. whats changed really?

 

 

lol.. well we're still not sure,

maybe the full set will give you hidden sword or something or turn you into monster or bring god down to fight by your side or or or or or... :P

 

and no, badnos is the best for slayer and still too good for boss hunting..

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I wonder very much if unicorns now heal, say, 120 damage or 180 damage (with a full set of armour @ 80 con).

 

Also I have a hunch that the bow will be inferior to void deflector + acp + ccbow + diamonds for many applications, also because of the higher magic defence.

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Took me a while to Upload, Unedit version of First Attempt hour after Nex released.

 

There actually a effective ways to take down Nex with Good Cordinating skill (Guide is being Uploaded)

 

Brief Summary of the Boss Mechanics

 

Boss has 4 bodyguard, Each with each own elements of the Ancient Magic spellbook (Ice/Smoke/Shadow/Blood)

 

As you can see in the video i totally ignore the Mages (Resubscribe member just for this Boss and never read Update lol) Which led us took a long time to kill her (Friends+Pub)

 

Cruor (Blood) - Uses Blood Barrage i believe to drain Hitpoint and transfer it to Curor and a bit to Nex

 

Umbra (Shadow) - Uses Shadow Barrage, You can see on the Video that the Chamber start getting Darker, Anyone caught standing at Dark spot under their feet for more then 1.5 Second will receive Heavy Damage

 

Glacier (Ice) Uses Ice Barrage, Freeze Player right on the spot

 

Fumus (Smoke) Smoke Barrage that constantly cause damage and drain your stats (Noticeable when Player start to "Cough")

 

 

 

During Nex Fight, She will start to use any of the 4 Bodyguard to help her out + Her own Unique attack. When Nex is around 80% HP, You are able to Kill one of the 4 Mages, Likewise when it reach 60%, 40%, 20%.

 

When all 4 Mages are kill (Which effective leaves her around 20-25% hp), She will start using Soul Split/Protect Prayer constantly all the way till she about to die where she would use Wraith.

 

The Priority for me to kill Mages is Blood > Ice > Smoke > Shadow

 

Reason is because, Blood will keep on draining HP and adding it to Nex, Where as Ice will Freeze you allowing Nex to one of his Special Move.

Smoke is rather useless since we are using Overload

Shadow can be Dorge if you pay attention.

 

Nex Unique Attack.

 

Not so much i know about her Unique attack but this is what i have been observing but you can see them in the video i provided.

 

The only move i curious about is this

 

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Woah...is this even real? Seems unlikely someone has full pernix and the bow to test this.

 

 

The +15 damage might be real (highly doutb it though)

But the 920 max hit...not...even....close...

with the +15 damage, it gives 130 range damage...hand cannon shots have more then that don't they? And they can't hit anywhere even close to 900.

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also idk who else killed it but there seems to be 4 stages for each style of ancient magic ice/magic/shadow/blood

shadow is weak to melee and we're gonna try fire surges for ice now, won't be long till a good method is figured out

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If people used BGS specials (perhaps even ZGS) and throwing knives I reckon it wouldn't be too bad. Noone's reported about the cannon yet I believe, and if that works (I doubt it though) it would be even better too. Also what about emerald bolts (e) on the mages? I'm quite clueless because I haven't been able to have a chance to go down myself though, so just throwing ideas out there. :P Just videos aren't enough really.

 

I predict that someone will find a safespot and solo it like what happened to the Corp Beast. :P

 

A safespot for a boss that teles and has four minions? It's called not-anywhere-near-nex.

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tbh i can't see bandos crashing, maybe for like a day.

there's a massive difference between affording 40mil armour to 500mil armour. Only the most hardcore PvMers and slayers will be able to afford to use it.

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also idk who else killed it but there seems to be 4 stages for each style of ancient magic ice/magic/shadow/blood

shadow is weak to melee and we're gonna try fire surges for ice now, won't be long till a good method is figured out

 

If you take desert treasure as a frame work:

 

Water owns smoke

Fire owns ice

Earth pwns blood

Air pwns Shadow

 

(last 2 might be wrong way round)

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