Golvellius Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I suppose this notion is as plausible as the rock climbers thing.I just think that Jagex needs to deep six this whole, rare, hard-to-get-item fetish they have been on the last few years.They just aren't capable of handling it.One foul update and everybody loses.Most have already lost to begin with because of the rampant rwting going on. Exclusive Legacy Mode Player He just successfully trolled you with "courtesy" and managed to get a reaction out of you. Lol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Levon_ Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 Jagex doesn't have quality assurance. Isn't it obvious It's great you know what you're talking about rustiod. Everything you've said is 100% accurate a true. That being said...your a [bleep]ing [bleep] douchebag, and none of your advice will ever (or should ever) be taken seriously because of it.disregard good advice because the giver is a douche THAT MAKES YOU A BETTER PERSON Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Trey Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 I don't know why JaGex doesn't ask players to test their content. Go to the high level forums, or grab random players and ask them if they want to help test content. Give them the reward of free membership for testing, and offer incentives for finding and reporting a bug.Make the testers post on the forums about what they're doing, what they're finding, and any problemsthat they face. With 100-200 player testers, the likelihood of catching a bug pre-release increases greatly. You can argue about the possibility of corruption with the testers themselves, but there are ways to avoid it. Players will report the bug to look good in frontof JaGex, to claim their reward for finding the bug, and because their ass would be on the line if JaGex thinks they withheld info. A smaller group wouldn't bethat hard to manage. Maybe I'm not thinking about this well enough but I think if they slowly started to build up trusted testers, the content would be so broken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Naraku893 Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 i was sure it was an inside job once i heard of the bug. we got jagex'd. just another failure that jagex can be proud of just like the μ glitch, and the ones before it such as fally massacre Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tres Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 they didnt even rollback when biggest item bug happend (partyhat duping) in 2003 that had great effect to market. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stev Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 they didnt even rollback when biggest item bug happend (partyhat duping) in 2003 that had great effect to market.They've changed a lot since then... And mostly for the worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hobgoblinpie Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I really can't see why everyone is so appalled about Jagex not rolling it back. Over a long enough timeline, everyone who goes to the corporeal beast will get many sigils All this error did is move that timeline ahead for a few people. Yet it caused mass panic. The corporeal beast has been out for two and a half years, so I cannot fathom as to why an hour's worth (or less) of sigils would make such a difference. And then there is the even bigger step of conspiracy theories. I do admit that the error should not have existed at all (given that QC had a decent amount of time to get all possibilities done) but it happened and that's that. POH Agility Course, Please Support! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jettrider Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 The thing that bugs me is that before major updates which will make an item spike or crash in price, the item has been tending in that way for some time. Divines and Elysians dropped 50-80m the week before this update. But as much as I'd like to believe in a conspiracy theory, I think it's just negligence. Not that that's better. 2496 Completionist Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Danqazmlp Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 What a ridiculous conspiracy theory, more holes than a slice of leerdammer. There isn't any point in going to the effort to write a long counter argument to such a fascicle idea. Said perfectly. Want to be my friend? Look under my name to the left<<< and click the 'Add as friend' button!Big thanks to Stevepole for the signature!^ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SwreeTak Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 You're giving Jagex way too much credit. They simply neglected to test the ROW on the monsters it'd be used on most. Pure stupidity. I think that this is the reason too. Jagex wouldn't put up an "inside job". Add me if you so wish: SwreeTak Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Observer Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Why are all of the more larger mistakes seen as a conspiracy? Surely Jagex, a company composed of humans are capable of making human errors, non? Yes, the glitch was unfair, but in how many other games are there major glitches? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riptide Mage Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Why are all of the more larger mistakes seen as a conspiracy? Surely Jagex, a company composed of humans are capable of making human errors, non? Yes, the glitch was unfair, but in how many other games are there major glitches? Because lots of large consistent errors make a pattern You make it sound like running through a few level 87 monsters is hard which it really shouldn't be at your level. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BiJay Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 Why are all of the more larger mistakes seen as a conspiracy? Surely Jagex, a company composed of humans are capable of making human errors, non? Yes, the glitch was unfair, but in how many other games are there major glitches? Because lots of large consistent errors make a patternJust because there are large errors it makes a pattern? I can think of a few other companys with big bugs in their game(s). And I still don't see any reason for these bugs. Yeah, we make bugs to get angry costumers but we will have more gps we could have cheated the easy way. But hey, a loss by quitting players is always welcome. Yeah, you're right, dear reader. I think this thread is stupid. [404] Signature not found. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sawercats Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 I bet you believe the government caused 9/11 too Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jsboutin2 Posted March 19, 2011 Share Posted March 19, 2011 My personnal theory is that someone wanted to change the droprate from x to 1,00%, and forgot a ",". It probably wasn't detected as it was a last minute change... But sure... Obviously someone would lose his/her job and credibility to give a sigil to a friend. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grogthurk Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 EVERY GAME HAS ITS BUGS L2NOTBESTUPID Holy crap, this forum is ASTOUNDING sometimes. Every single MMO I've played has had completely exploitable bugs that go unnoticed and unpatched for YEARS before it is caught. Jagex does it within an hour? AMG INSIDE JOB Holy crap, are all of you 12? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sees_all1 Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Holy crap, are all of you 12?No, but it sounds like you're 13. I'd like to think that someone pulling an "inside job" at jagex would do something a bit more spectacular, like if you talk to the mean guy with a coffee and then fly to cinnabar island and surf on the side of the island, a weird missingo would appear and the item in your 6th inventory spot would miraculously have 150 more. 99 dungeoneering achieved, thanks to everyone that celebrated with me! ♪♪ Don't interrupt me as I struggle to complete this thoughtHave some respect for someone more forgetful than yourself ♪♪♪♪ And I'm not doneAnd I won't be till my head falls off ♪♪ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zaps Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Holy crap, are all of you 12?No, but it sounds like you're 13. I'd like to think that someone pulling an "inside job" at jagex would do something a bit more spectacular, like if you talk to the mean guy with a coffee and then fly to cinnabar island and surf on the side of the island, a weird missingo would appear and the item in your 6th inventory spot would miraculously have 150 more. :thumbup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noxx Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 I don't think it was an inside job. The thought of it kind of makes me laugh, i'll be honest.I just think a few players (like mentioned before in this thread) went to the boss it could most likely have the biggest affect on. I myself was all ready and prepped up to go corping soon as i saw the 10 minute update timer pop up. So if i could have thought of that surely thousands of other players could too. And i think as soon as the first 2 sigils were dropped in a short ammount of time the word spread like virgin buttcheecks in a prison. And it really only takes 5 minutes before a hundred thousand people know of it. Sure, it might have been a rather silly error by Jagex but they do deal with a very demanding client base (by that i mean us, the players). Imagine the chaos if Jagex had postponed the update for a bit more testing instead of rather releasing it and fixing whatever was wrong later. Chaos, Hell, Judgement Day. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Logdotzip Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 the word spread like virgin buttcheecks in a prison. Thank you for this. I will find a use for this one day my youtube Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Randox Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Part of the problem is the time it takes to perform a roll back. I believe the last one took around 2 hours before the game could be booted up again, and with the game growing larger by the day, they will only take longer and longer each time (and they don't know how long unless they actually do it). The damage done to the game, as determined within minutes of the bugs discovery, would have to be enough for whoever was in charge to warrant shutting down the game for so long. So maybe they didn't think it was worth the cost, or maybe they had bad information, and by the time they did a full damage assessment, it was too late to be worth performing a roll back. As for conspiracy theories, there are enough confirmed problems with the game without getting into this kind of thing. If there are shady doings in Jagex, let them sort it. We already have things like bots and RWT that we know exists, without losing sleep over something else. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stev Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Holy crap, are all of you 12?Naw, but apparently the same can't be said about Jagex's QA team. I mean really... Let's update the RoW and make it work for bosses and affect the best drops in-game. K? Now let's not test it at the most well-known bosses like Corporeal Beast and Bandos and release it as is. It's genius! As I said before, either sheer laziness or complete stupidity; Jagex. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
capt_wheeto Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 Holy crap, are all of you 12?No, but it sounds like you're 13. I'd like to think that someone pulling an "inside job" at jagex would do something a bit more spectacular, like if you talk to the mean guy with a coffee and then fly to cinnabar island and surf on the side of the island, a weird missingo would appear and the item in your 6th inventory spot would miraculously have 150 more. ..I.. Uhm. What? You're claiming that the 150 item duplicate was 'miraculous'? Start developing for a limited piece of hardware and you'll understand why these things happen when you have to tweak every piece of data. On the topic of mistakes, I believe it was an honest one. They didn't do any of this on purpose, mistakes are far too easy on such a big project and when faced with a deadline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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